infinite energy

if for a moment, we assume that the earth is an infinite plane. thjis woud have an infinite mass, and would require and infinite amount of energy to move. so why is the government getting worried about energy shortages. why dont they get nasa to harness this energy rather than waste it on software development. they could just say they found more oil and use the new energy source secretly?

The infinite earth does not move, problem solved.

so gravity does exist...

In some models of FE, yes.

talk about beating around the bush (ha, i made a funny)

This is an interesting thought, I can't wait to see what bullshit Tom says about it.

The FE is not infinite. 

Therefore, /thread.

The FE is not infinite. 

Therefore, /thread.

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The FE is not infinite. 

Therefore, /thread.

Except it is.  Any serious flat earth scientist knows this is a good possibility.  Rowbotham himself was the first to suggest it.

There arises many problems with infinity.  Besides, the FAQ gives a finite size of the FE.

Besides, the FAQ gives a finite size of the FE.

And?

Many Problems arise with the non-infinite too.  That doesn't mean anything.

...and that is the official theory of this site.

...and that is the official theory of this site.

Which says nothing about whether it is correct or not.  Wouldn't you agree?

Yes, I would.

Good soup.  I don't see serious harm in discussing alternative theories here, but if there is sorry.

f for a moment, we assume that the earth is an infinite plane. thjis woud have an infinite mass, and would require and infinite amount of energy to move

If an infinite amount of mass exists, since mass is energy, doesn't that imply that an infinite amount of energy also exists?

Tom is correct.  If the earth is infinite, then energy must be infinite as well.

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Tom is correct.  If the earth is infinite, then energy must be infinite as well.

But, if there is an infinite amount of mass, then the energy equivalent of that mass is also infinite.  So where do you get the infinite amount of energy required to accelerate the infinite mass if that that infinite energy is already tied up in the infinite mass?

Quote from: Roundy the Truthinessist on May 15, 2008, 12:09:48 PM

Tom is correct.  If the earth is infinite, then energy must be infinite as well.

But, if there is an infinite amount of mass, then the energy equivalent of that mass is also infinite.  So where do you get the infinite amount of energy required to accelerate the infinite mass if that that infinite energy is already tied up in the infinite mass?

I'm not sure you grasp the concept of infinity.  That's like asking how there can be an infinite number of real numbers between 1 and 2 if there is also an infinite number of real numbers between 2 and 3.

Quote from: markjo on May 15, 2008, 02:54:21 PM

Quote from: Roundy the Truthinessist on May 15, 2008, 12:09:48 PM

Tom is correct.  If the earth is infinite, then energy must be infinite as well.

But, if there is an infinite amount of mass, then the energy equivalent of that mass is also infinite.  So where do you get the infinite amount of energy required to accelerate the infinite mass if that that infinite energy is already tied up in the infinite mass?

I'm not sure you grasp the concept of infinity.  That's like asking how there can be an infinite number of real numbers between 1 and 2 if there is also an infinite number of real numbers between 2 and 3.

That's because Tom was trying to use the concept of infinity as a quantity, and you happened to agree with him.  Infinity as a concept is one thing.  Infinity as a quantity is a whole different can of worms.

I see no reason to assume that mass can't be limitless, and if mass is limitless then energy must also be limitless.  That was the sense of infinity that I intended in my post agreeing with Tom.

Quote from: Roundy the Truthinessist on May 15, 2008, 12:09:48 PM

Tom is correct.  If the earth is infinite, then energy must be infinite as well.

But, if there is an infinite amount of mass, then the energy equivalent of that mass is also infinite.  So where do you get the infinite amount of energy required to accelerate the infinite mass if that that infinite energy is already tied up in the infinite mass?

You would only need enough energy for each area (for example, one square foot) to accelerate that square foot.  This means it could be depleting, in which case the infinite earth is getting thinner as time goes by.

I see no reason to assume that mass can't be limitless, and if mass is limitless then energy must also be limitless.  That was the sense of infinity that I intended in my post agreeing with Tom.

Seeing as there really isn't any way of being sure, then perhaps mass is indeed limitless, but the idea just doesn't sit well with me.  I guess that I'm one of those people who feels that the words like infinity and forever get tossed around far too casually.

Quote from: Roundy the Truthinessist on May 15, 2008, 03:21:35 PM

I see no reason to assume that mass can't be limitless, and if mass is limitless then energy must also be limitless.  That was the sense of infinity that I intended in my post agreeing with Tom.

Seeing as there really isn't any way of being sure, then perhaps mass is indeed limitless, but the idea just doesn't sit well with me.  I guess that I'm one of those people who feels that the words like infinity and forever get tossed around far too casually.

I also agree that they do get tossed around far too casually.  However, that doesn't deter my belief in the infinite flat earth.  There is certainly less justification for it though if you don't believe in gravitational pull due to a massive earth.