6.6 Billion people in the world

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6.6 Billion people in the world
« on: May 09, 2008, 01:40:47 AM »
And not a single photograph of this said "Ice wall" or any physical proof that the earth is flat. You guys don't find that at all odd?

Have you people not flown on a plane? Look out the window and see the curvature of the earth?

The government is conspiring against the people? Do you know who the government is?

The government is US, the people. Why would we lie to each other about the world being flat? Thousands upon thousands of government employees and not a single one has stood up and said the government is lying to us about the shape of our planet.

For something so huge to be kept a secret would be impossible.

With 6.6 Billion people in the world, someone should have taken their private plane or boat by now and reached the edge of our planet and snapped some photographs.

Gives good examples of why the earth is round, at first he may be hard to understand, but you should be able to understand him overall, Please watch the whole video, very good examples

Feel free to give me videos explaining why the earth is flat, i'd very much like to see them.

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Re: 6.6 Billion people in the world
« Reply #1 on: May 09, 2008, 01:44:46 AM »
And not a single photograph of this said "Ice wall" or any physical proof that the earth is flat. You guys don't find that at all odd?

No, I don't find it odd that 6.6 billion people haven't been to Antarctica. Do you?

Have you people not flown on a plane? Look out the window and see the curvature of the earth?

Aw, do we have another Criss Angel believer?

The government is conspiring against the people? Do you know who the government is?

No, not the government, but the space agencies. The FAQ is old.

The government is US, the people.

In my mind, you just lost all credibility with this statement.

For something so huge to be kept a secret would be impossible.

It's not as big as people want to think it is. And no, not impossible; just highly unlikely.

With 6.6 Billion people in the world, someone should have taken their private plane or boat by now and reached the edge of our planet and snapped some photographs.

Now 6.6 billion people have private planes and boats? And wait, there's an edge of the planet? I thought it was a sphere?
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« Reply #2 on: May 09, 2008, 01:59:08 AM »
Okay, the space agencies.. the people who spend their whole lives preparing to work for NASA, of those thousands of people that have cycle through NASA over the past half century, not one of them quit NASA appalled to find out that everything NASA stands for is a lie.

You know, people that work at NASA are people too, you would think after all this training to get into NASA to find out it's all a lie. All this is very very very unlikely to be going on.

and you're telling me none of the live streams and feeds of NASA's space station with it's cameras on board is real. You're here saying it's a conspiracy, the same space station you can sometimes see with the naked eye going across the sky is just there collecting fake data of our planet and all the astronauts will never speak a word of what NASA is covering up?

Every space photograph is made by some people sitting in some computer room making these high definition pictures up and posting them up everywhere to make us think our earth is indeed round, and not flat.

Even if the world was flat, why would the government hide that fact, for money? You mean to tell me that if we knew our earth was flat, we wouldn't still have a space program and the government would cease to have a space program just because we know our planet is flat? I don't see the logic behind making money off us not knowing the planet is flat, even if the planet was flat, they'd still be making the same money either way.

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Re: 6.6 Billion people in the world
« Reply #3 on: May 09, 2008, 02:15:38 AM »
Okay, the space agencies.. the people who spend their whole lives preparing to work for NASA, of those thousands of people that have cycle through NASA over the past half century, not one of them quit NASA appalled to find out that everything NASA stands for is a lie.

You think everyone that gets hired for NASA would find out about this? That wouldn't be very smart of them. It would also go against the fact that NASA and other space agencies are still in business.

You know, people that work at NASA are people too

Oh, I thought they were droids.

and you're telling me none of the live streams and feeds of NASA's space station with it's cameras on board is real. You're here saying it's a conspiracy, the same space station you can sometimes see with the naked eye going across the sky is just there collecting fake data of our planet and all the astronauts will never speak a word of what NASA is covering up?

In a nutshell, basically.

Every space photograph is made by some people sitting in some computer room making these high definition pictures up and posting them up everywhere to make us think our earth is indeed round, and not flat.

That's the idea.

Even if the world was flat, why would the government hide that fact, for money? You mean to tell me that if we knew our earth was flat, we wouldn't still have a space program and the government would cease to have a space program just because we know our planet is flat? I don't see the logic behind making money off us not knowing the planet is flat, even if the planet was flat, they'd still be making the same money either way.

The space agencies hide it for money. The idea is that because sustained spaceflight isn't possible because of the Earth being flat, it would cause a lot more money to actually run the space missions. By purporting that the world is round, they are able to research far less, if at all, and that they are able to take in a large profit.

For instance, NASA has accumulated "an average of $12.681 billion dollars per year over its fifty year history." Now, if they really were purporting that the Earth was a sphere, then those elite few pulling the strings would be making some nice pocket change given that they aren't really going to space, and doing the things they claim to be doing.
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« Reply #4 on: May 09, 2008, 02:35:01 AM »
I thank you for replying to me with your own beliefs rather than referring me to the FAQ, you do stand with your points strongly and I appreciate it.

I'd like for you to watch this video: It is not made by me, but he does give some good examples explaining why the earth is round, I ask for you to watch the whole video with an open mind

Also, please do refer me to videos defending your stance if you have any, i'd like to watch them.

You also made a remark saying I was a Criss Angel believer for saying you could see the curve in earth while looking out the window of a plane flying. Could you please elaborate why Criss Angel has anything to do with that?
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Re: 6.6 Billion people in the world
« Reply #5 on: May 09, 2008, 02:55:04 AM »
I thank you for replying to me with your own beliefs rather than referring me to the FAQ, you do stand with your points strongly and I appreciate it.

Well, they aren't really my beliefs. And the FAQ is old and outdated. Thought has moved much farther from when the FAQ was originally conceived.

You also made a remark saying I was a Criss Angel believer for saying you could see the curve in earth while looking out the window of a plane flying. Could you please elaborate why Criss Angel has anything to do with that?

Well, under your logic that the Earth has curvature because you can see it, you must also believe in Criss Angel's levitation when you see it.
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« Reply #6 on: May 09, 2008, 03:01:28 AM »
Hm, but the difference between Criss Angel's levitating act is, it's a magic illusion designed to trick you, but when you're in the sky, there's no magician up in the sky flailing his magic wand and making the horizon of earth seem to bow upwards rather than keep a straight line.

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Re: 6.6 Billion people in the world
« Reply #7 on: May 09, 2008, 03:08:56 AM »
Ok fine. Where is the magician when a straw is magically separating itself when it is in a glass of water? Or perhaps there is a magician warping spacetime when you look across a tarmac on a hot day?
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Re: 6.6 Billion people in the world
« Reply #8 on: May 09, 2008, 03:14:40 AM »
The problem is, from my eyes, that REers blow out of all proportion how big the "conspiracy" needs to be.

For a start, you don't just apply to work at NASA; there's a long and complicated selection and induction process.
I don't mean to sound glib, but is it so hard to believe that they wouldn't accept people, in to the relevant positions, that are going to reveal the information?

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Re: 6.6 Billion people in the world
« Reply #9 on: May 09, 2008, 03:22:37 AM »
They can do all the background checks they want, but how do they know how you'll react when shown that the earth is flat

Also, what do you think about that video?

If I were to stand on the highest mountain in the United States and shine a laser to Asia no problem.

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« Reply #10 on: May 09, 2008, 03:30:54 AM »
My internet is on the fritz. I'm guessing my ISP dislikes my bandwidth hogging and is fucking with me, so I can't watch the video or do anything until I grill them.

They can do all the background checks they want, but how do they know how you'll react when shown that the earth is flat

Well, I'm sure they are smart enough to the point where only a very limited number of people know the intimate detail.

If I were to stand on the highest mountain in the United States and shine a laser to Asia no problem.

Things such as elevation, atmospheric density, atmospheric distortion, and perspective will prevent that from happening.
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« Reply #11 on: May 09, 2008, 03:33:55 AM »
I didn't specifically mean background checks; induction (which happens with all military/government work) is where they put you through a period of monitoring to decide how you can cope with certain information.
It's not an uncommon or hidden method. Look at FBI/CIA in the USA, MI5/6 in the UK, etc...

Re: 6.6 Billion people in the world
« Reply #12 on: May 09, 2008, 09:29:02 AM »
6.6 billion may not have private planes but quite a few people have.

No need to be sarcastic.

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Re: 6.6 Billion people in the world
« Reply #13 on: May 09, 2008, 11:58:45 AM »
6.6 billion may not have private planes but quite a few people have.

No need to be sarcastic.

Actually, on this board there is.   ;D
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Re: 6.6 Billion people in the world
« Reply #14 on: May 09, 2008, 12:12:31 PM »
Yeah you don't last long here without a little sarcasm
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« Reply #15 on: May 09, 2008, 01:47:47 PM »
Yeah you don't last long here without a little sarcasm

Gratz Prof. Gaypenguin.

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Re: 6.6 Billion people in the world
« Reply #16 on: May 09, 2008, 02:17:38 PM »

re: conspiracy induction   Have you ever explored the masons, or scientology?  At every level you are told a new story, and must forget everything old.  By the time you reach the top of scientology, you are 100% indoctrinated.  Do you believe in Xenu?  How come no scientologist has "leaked" this to the world?  There are more scientologists and masons than any conspiracy scenario required to propagate RE myths.

re: 6.6 Billion people.  This number is an argument FOR the FE theory.  Don't you wonder how it is that if the earth were really round, only a handful of people at the space agencies control the "real" knowledge?  Only a handful have been in space, control the gps system, video feeds, photos, and all of the other "evidence".

Space flight is the new alchemy.  People believe it, and send nasa "gold" to research, but nasa will never generate any returns.  When nasa does something useful that the public can benefit from, I might believe they are doing something other than taking our money.

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Re: 6.6 Billion people in the world
« Reply #17 on: May 09, 2008, 02:28:46 PM »
6.6. Billion people. If you lined them up end to end they'd stretch to the moon and back 30 times!

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« Reply #18 on: May 09, 2008, 02:37:38 PM »
Umm... no.  They would stretch to the moon and back 2300 times.

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« Reply #19 on: May 09, 2008, 02:43:04 PM »
I got 2292 times, but I'll allow for some variance...
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« Reply #20 on: May 09, 2008, 02:48:30 PM »
I got 2292 times, but I'll allow for some variance...
Does that include the fat people?

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« Reply #21 on: May 09, 2008, 02:52:29 PM »
He said "end-to-end" not "side-to-side"
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« Reply #22 on: May 09, 2008, 02:55:36 PM »
He said "end-to-end" not "side-to-side"
Sorry, then. Tall people?

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Re: 6.6 Billion people in the world
« Reply #23 on: May 09, 2008, 03:03:37 PM »
Well I dunno I did it like this:
I decided average height was 1.75 which is probably an over-estimate because I never took in to account children.
6'600'000'000 X 1.75 m = 11'550'000'000 m = 11'550'000 Km

Distance from Earth to moon = 384'403 Km

11'550'000 / 384'403 = 30 rounded down.

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« Reply #24 on: May 09, 2008, 03:06:01 PM »
Let me see if I can find the discrepancy in our calculations.

Distance from Earth to moon = 384'403 Km

Hmm... that might explain it.  Where did you get this figure?

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« Reply #27 on: May 09, 2008, 03:07:05 PM »
That's RE moon not FE moon btw!

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« Reply #28 on: May 09, 2008, 03:11:14 PM »
That explains it then. You used the RE number which should have gotten you 28 times or so (I used a generous 5'6" for avg height). You should've used the FE -- moon distance to get to my number.
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« Reply #29 on: May 09, 2008, 03:13:44 PM »
That's RE moon not FE moon btw!

There is only one moon.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moon
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