Why do you believe in FE / RE?

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Re: Why do you believe in FE / RE?
« Reply #60 on: May 06, 2008, 10:48:03 PM »
We have the observations of Samuel Birley Rowbotham and his successors guiding us, as well as, in several cases, our own experiences.  Intuition tells us the earth is flat.  I'll take good old intuition and the zetetic method over science, which is deeply flawed in the way it reaches conclusions, any day.

Then it's not science, don't convince people it's science. Don't use Faux Pax science to attempt to prove your flawed ideas.


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Re: Why do you believe in FE / RE?
« Reply #61 on: May 06, 2008, 10:48:49 PM »
I'm not trying to "prove" anything.  That is impossible.
Where did you educate the biology, in toulet?

Re: Why do you believe in FE / RE?
« Reply #62 on: May 06, 2008, 10:50:49 PM »
I'm not trying to "prove" anything.  That is impossible.

Incredible, I never thought I'd find some sense on these boards.

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Re: Why do you believe in FE / RE?
« Reply #63 on: May 06, 2008, 10:51:33 PM »
I'm done talking to you, if you choose to misunderstand my posts, you show your inability to search for yourself.
I did search.  Gravity as a force does not exist.  I want you to explain your uber-cool version of gravity where it does.


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Re: Why do you believe in FE / RE?
« Reply #64 on: May 07, 2008, 01:44:00 AM »
I'm done talking to you, if you choose to misunderstand my posts, you show your inability to search for yourself.
I did search.  Gravity as a force does not exist.  I want you to explain your uber-cool version of gravity where it does.

Can we please stay on topic, girls.  The gravity/gravitation thing is a needless divert. 

It needlessly takes up forum space.  It derails the original topic (needlessly).  We don't know what causes the gravitational interaction, and probably (IMO) never will.   Yada yada
I haven't performed it and I've never claimed to. I've have trouble being in two places at the same time.

Re: Why do you believe in FE / RE?
« Reply #65 on: May 07, 2008, 08:32:34 AM »
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oh, and your table is flat because it was designed and built BY HUMANS to be flat. extrapolating the ENTIRE WORLD from such a small, ARTIFICAL object is like expecting everyone in the world to look EXACTLY LIKE YOU!

What? They don't? The mirror lies!? It's all stage-makeup anyway...
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Re: Why do you believe in FE / RE?
« Reply #66 on: May 07, 2008, 08:46:34 AM »
Robotham made his infamous observations along a CANAL, a man-made waterway, so of course it was wrong.
oh, and he also used the Pythagrean Theorem for his calculations, which relates to TRIANGLES, not CIRCLES or SPHERES!


"In science, the burden of proof falls upon the claimant; and the more extraordinary a claim, the heavier is the burden of proof demanded. The true skeptic takes an agnostic position, one that says the claim is not proved rather than disproved. He asserts that the claimant has not borne the burden of proof and that science must continue to build its cognitive map of reality without incorporating the extraordinary claim as a new "fact." Since the true skeptic does not assert a claim, he has no burden to prove anything. He just goes on using the established theories of "conventional science" as usual. But if a critic asserts that there is evidence for disproof, that he has a negative hypothesis—saying, for instance, that a seeming psi result was actually due to an artifact—he is making a claim and therefore also has to bear a burden of proof."

that's what "Zetetic" means. but you've forgotten: YOU FERS are the ones making the "extraordinary claim", so the burden of proof is on YOU!!

one more thing: YOUR intuition may tell YOU earth is flat, but MY intuition tells ME earth is round!

Re: Why do you believe in FE / RE?
« Reply #67 on: May 07, 2008, 08:54:03 AM »
I am going to step out from lurking and post....

Shut the fuck up Eric.  Do you realize you make yourself look more stupid every time you type?
Good Lord man for all that is holy go back to your hole.
You were once entertaining but you post the same bullshit over and over.

You are either the most obtuse person in existence to not understand this site or a someone hell-bent on fucking with everyone.
I personally vote obtuse.


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Re: Why do you believe in FE / RE?
« Reply #68 on: May 07, 2008, 10:31:35 AM »
Everybody has to believe in something.  I believe that I'll have another drink.

I'm gonna change my belief to that.


I was fooled by my teachers when I was young into believing the Earth was round. As far as I was aware everyone else believed it too. But then I stumbled upon FES and was able to question my beliefs. After a long time of torturous inner mental debate I finally realised the truth. That the Earth is flat. Frankly when you consider both theories with an open mind, FET just makes more sense. RET is just full of all kinds of shit like floating oceans which just doesn't make sense.

Thank you for your personal out-coming. For me, I tried the graviton interceptor experiment and new no such thing existed. Once I started to consider that RET could be wrong, I looked at evidence with an open mind. Armed with science, it took me weeks to stumble upon this site and it's doctrines. The earth is flat!

Next I'm gonna come out of the closet.
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Re: Why do you believe in FE / RE?
« Reply #69 on: May 07, 2008, 10:59:39 AM »
Thisistoopainfultobear you come on a site about open and free discussion, yet you are reluctent to discuss your ideas and make claims which can be proved yet find no need to prove them. You are a disgrace to the scientific method

Re: Why do you believe in FE / RE?
« Reply #70 on: May 07, 2008, 11:31:57 AM »
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Robotham made his infamous observations along a CANAL, a man-made waterway, so of course it was wrong.

Obviously, observation of a man-made object instantly invalidates said observation, so the observation that my table is flat is wrong, eh? That means it's round?

That also means that all observable and measurable evidence for global warming is wrong. Phew. With that off my mind, I'm gonna go out and trade in my Taurus for a Hummer. Gas prices? Manmade, they must be wrong. I'll go ahead and tell the gas station lady that next time I fill up for $4 a gallon and tell her because Eric Bloedow said so, it must be true.

But wait, Eric is the man-made product of his mommy and daddy (except he killed his mother), which means he's wrong.

Circular fail.
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Re: Why do you believe in FE / RE?
« Reply #71 on: May 07, 2008, 10:14:32 PM »
You just proved the earth is flat.

Another victory for FE!!!

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Re: Why do you believe in FE / RE?
« Reply #72 on: May 08, 2008, 02:04:41 PM »
I believe in RE. Why? Because it is the only option that makes sense. Personally "a giant shadow object" that causes eclipses does not cut it for me. NASA is not a hoax, all they do is real. I highly doubt they could 'fake' a shuttle going into space, as I have been in Florida and watched it myself! " class="bbc_link" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Does this look fake to you? I also trust my government, and have no belief in any conspiracies. Why? Because what are the motives of hiding it?

Also, things like modern aircraft navigation are impossible in a FE model! Why does it take less time to fly from JFK to Heathrow by crossing the North Atlantic than by flying straight across? Or what of South African Airways flying from Johannesburg to Sydney? If the Earth was flat, why wouldn't they just fly straight across over southern Asia?

Another thing, how can certain areas of the Earth be cooler/warmer than others in a FE model? In a RE, temperature variations are due to different angles of sunlight/amount of sunlight. How can this be explained in a FE model?

If there are no such thing as satellites, then how do cell phones and GPS work? Are they apart of this hoax too? What about Google Earth? Where do they get their pictures from? It would take too long for the entire Earth to be mapped using aircraft or other means.

This is why I just cannot believe in a FE. The evidence supporting a RE is overwhelming. And we have one thing that flat Earthers don't have - photographic evidence.
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Re: Why do you believe in FE / RE?
« Reply #73 on: May 08, 2008, 04:19:21 PM »
If there are no such thing as satellites, then how do cell phones and GPS work? Are they apart of this hoax too?

Cell phones use big, ugly towers all over the place.  You may have seen them.  Nothing at all to do with satellites. 

Some cell phones use multiple towers to triangulate your position, thereby simulating GPS.  Again, no satellites needed.
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Re: Why do you believe in FE / RE?
« Reply #74 on: May 08, 2008, 04:23:55 PM »
This is why I just cannot believe in a FE. The evidence supporting a RE is overwhelming. And we have one thing that flat Earthers don't have - photographic evidence.

You're kidding right? Let's put flat earth photos next to RE photo's from space agencies and see how we stack up...
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Re: Why do you believe in FE / RE?
« Reply #75 on: May 08, 2008, 04:32:02 PM »
This is why I just cannot believe in a FE. The evidence supporting a RE is overwhelming. And we have one thing that flat Earthers don't have - photographic evidence.

You're kidding right? Let's put flat earth photos next to RE photo's from space agencies and see how we stack up...

Yes, I'm waiting for your so called pictures of flat earth.

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Re: Why do you believe in FE / RE?
« Reply #76 on: May 08, 2008, 04:35:13 PM »
Everybody has to believe in something.  I believe that I'll have another drink.
I believe I will too
The Earth is Round... a Sphere.  Period.

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Re: Why do you believe in FE / RE?
« Reply #77 on: May 08, 2008, 05:49:01 PM »
That FE theory is new to me and I'm amaze that people, in the 2008, could believe that earth is flat (it sound to me like the famous creationist theory)

I read a bit of 'parallax' guy and I could tell that his wrong for his table. So, since all his 'experiments' are based on this table, it is uselless to continue my reading further.

Even if we assume that the entire world conpirate, there is a lot of fact that should be explain.

Terrestrial facts
How come we see the curvature of the earth from the top of big mountain or in an airplane ?
Why, if tide are made from some 'tilt' movement, we dont feel this 'tilt' movement (mean there is no tide in my coffee cup or my pool)?
How do you explain meteologic cycles like jet stream from north pole toward equator and from south pole to equator, 'el nino', Gulf Stream ?
How earthquakes were so pinpoint ?
How mountains was formed ? and more generaly, how earth was formed?
How does earth accelerate and toward where and in what ?
What cause boreal auroras ?
What is this famous UA ?

Space things
Where meteors and comets came from?
If the moon is a spotlight, what is craters ?
if the sun is also a spolight, what is solar eruption (which could be observe during eclipse) ?
How do you explain planet's movement ?

These are few questions, not an exhautive list.

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Re: Why do you believe in FE / RE?
« Reply #78 on: May 08, 2008, 05:51:34 PM »
Even if we assume that the entire world conpirate, there is a lot of fact that should be explain.
Even if we assume that English is not your first language, you're still an idiot.

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Re: Why do you believe in FE / RE?
« Reply #79 on: May 08, 2008, 06:05:01 PM »
I hate Tide in my coffee cup.  >:(

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Re: Why do you believe in FE / RE?
« Reply #80 on: May 08, 2008, 06:20:59 PM »
You're writgh Oscar, English is my tird language., but why I'm an idiot ?

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Re: Why do you believe in FE / RE?
« Reply #81 on: May 08, 2008, 06:36:35 PM »
There is a multitude of reasons...

1) You reject Flat Earth Theory
2) Failing that, you neglected to even read the FAQ
3) Failing that, you neglected to lurk moar
4) Barring consideration of any of these, you apparently joined these forums with serious intent

You're writgh Oscar, English is my tird language.
Well, you certainly are shitty at it.

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Re: Why do you believe in FE / RE?
« Reply #82 on: May 08, 2008, 07:12:15 PM »
If there are no such thing as satellites, then how do cell phones and GPS work? Are they apart of this hoax too?

Cell phones use big, ugly towers all over the place.  You may have seen them.  Nothing at all to do with satellites. 

Some cell phones use multiple towers to triangulate your position, thereby simulating GPS.  Again, no satellites needed.
Wrong. When you make a cell phone call, the call is sent to the nearest tower, then to a satellite, then to the tower nearest the person you are calling.

This is why I just cannot believe in a FE. The evidence supporting a RE is overwhelming. And we have one thing that flat Earthers don't have - photographic evidence.

You're kidding right? Let's put flat earth photos next to RE photo's from space agencies and see how we stack up...
I can't believe this. Has anyone taken a picture of a flat Earth from space? That's right - no one has. And if you think photos of a RE come just from space agencies, then you have not heard of Spaceship 1 or the Concorde. Both of these aircraft flew high enough to see a visible curve on the Earth.
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Re: Why do you believe in FE / RE?
« Reply #83 on: May 08, 2008, 07:18:16 PM »
Wrong. When you make a cell phone call, the call is sent to the nearest tower, then to a satellite, then to the tower nearest the person you are calling.
Uh, no, there is no satellite in the cell network.


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Re: Why do you believe in FE / RE?
« Reply #84 on: May 08, 2008, 07:22:41 PM »
Wrong. When you make a cell phone call, the call is sent to the nearest tower, then to a satellite, then to the tower nearest the person you are calling.
Uh, no, there is no satellite in the cell network.
Really? Ever hear of a sat phone?

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Re: Why do you believe in FE / RE?
« Reply #85 on: May 08, 2008, 07:23:07 PM »
Wrong. When you make a cell phone call, the call is sent to the nearest tower, then to a satellite, then to the tower nearest the person you are calling.
Uh, no, there is no satellite in the cell network.
Really? Ever hear of a sat phone?

Not until reading your post.

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Re: Why do you believe in FE / RE?
« Reply #86 on: May 08, 2008, 07:25:35 PM »
Wrong. When you make a cell phone call, the call is sent to the nearest tower, then to a satellite, then to the tower nearest the person you are calling.
Uh, no, there is no satellite in the cell network.
Really? Ever hear of a sat phone?

Not until reading your post.
More info on 'em.
Another source if you don't like Wikipedia.
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Re: Why do you believe in FE / RE?
« Reply #87 on: May 08, 2008, 07:34:48 PM »
There is a multitude of reasons...

1) You reject Flat Earth Theory
I'm an idoit because I don't share you faith? I should be burned for that ?

2) Failing that, you neglected to even read the FAQ
False, I read it all and that why I ask questions (it don't answer them)

3) Failing that, you neglected to lurk moar
I dont know what it's mean (but I tough it better for me)

4) Barring consideration of any of these, you apparently joined these forums with serious intent
Yes. I joined these forums with the intent to know how people, in 2008, could seriously think that earth is flat. Apparently, it is not here that I could learn anything valuable. You act as fanatics; all other's ideas is shit, dont believe them, believe me because I have the holy wisdom ... .
The only answers a get up to now is being blast because I questionne your theory

Well, you certainly are shitty at it.

Bless me and my barbed wit! :D

Wow what a great argumentation. It show the solid bases of your theory !!

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Re: Why do you believe in FE / RE?
« Reply #88 on: May 08, 2008, 07:36:27 PM »
If there are no such thing as satellites, then how do cell phones and GPS work? Are they apart of this hoax too?

Cell phones use big, ugly towers all over the place.  You may have seen them.  Nothing at all to do with satellites. 

Some cell phones use multiple towers to triangulate your position, thereby simulating GPS.  Again, no satellites needed.
Wrong. When you make a cell phone call, the call is sent to the nearest tower, then to a satellite, then to the tower nearest the person you are calling.

Or the call is sent via land line to the other tower.
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Re: Why do you believe in FE / RE?
« Reply #89 on: May 08, 2008, 07:44:18 PM »
3) Failing that, you neglected to lurk moar
I dont know what it's mean (but I tough it better for me)

Lurk moar means that instead of just jumping into the discussions all at once, you should just hang out in the background and read a bunch of threads to try and get an idea of what is actually going.  Most of the obvious questions have already been asked (if not satisfactorily answered) and it does get a bit tedious having to get new people up to speed all the time.
Science is what happens when preconception meets verification.
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Besides, perhaps FET is a conspiracy too.
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It is just the way it is, you understanding it doesn't concern me.