Infinite Earth

Wouldn't an infinite earth cause the earths width to infinitely small?  And wouldn't it be to thin to hold magma or tectonic plates.  Username should it some where before but I couldn't find it.  A finite # over infinity is infinitely small or something like that.

Wouldn't an infinite earth cause the earths width to infinitely small?  And wouldn't it be to thing to hold magma or tectonic plates.  Username should it some where before but I couldn't find it.  A finite # over infinity is infinitely small or something like that.

Only really stupid FE'ers think the Earth is infinite. *cough*tom*cough*

Wouldn't an infinite earth cause the earths width to infinitely small?  And wouldn't it be to thing to hold magma or tectonic plates.  Username should it some where before but I couldn't find it.  A finite # over infinity is infinitely small or something like that.

Quote from: Wakka Wakka on April 30, 2008, 07:40:52 PM

Wouldn't an infinite earth cause the earths width to infinitely small?  And wouldn't it be to thing to hold magma or tectonic plates.  Username should it some where before but I couldn't find it.  A finite # over infinity is infinitely small or something like that.

Only really stupid FE'ers thing the Earth is infinite. *cough*tom*cough*

Weird.

Quote from: Wakka Wakka on April 30, 2008, 07:40:52 PM

Wouldn't an infinite earth cause the earths width to infinitely small?  And wouldn't it be to thing to hold magma or tectonic plates.  Username should it some where before but I couldn't find it.  A finite # over infinity is infinitely small or something like that.

Quote from: CyborgJesus on April 30, 2008, 07:48:27 PM

Quote from: Wakka Wakka on April 30, 2008, 07:40:52 PM

Wouldn't an infinite earth cause the earths width to infinitely small?  And wouldn't it be to thing to hold magma or tectonic plates.  Username should it some where before but I couldn't find it.  A finite # over infinity is infinitely small or something like that.

Only really stupid FE'ers thing the Earth is infinite. *cough*tom*cough*

Weird.

Beautiful catch. 

I'd like to add that "infinite" is not a number to be tossed around so jovially.  It's not a number at all, actually.  Some quantity can be considered infinite in one physical context and finite in another. 

Also, there are different "sizes" of infinity, if you care to read about the work of a mathematician named Georg Ferdinand Ludwig Philipp Cantor. 

Quote from: Wakka Wakka on April 30, 2008, 07:40:52 PM

Wouldn't an infinite earth cause the earths width to infinitely small?  And wouldn't it be to thing to hold magma or tectonic plates.  Username should it some where before but I couldn't find it.  A finite # over infinity is infinitely small or something like that.

Quote from: CyborgJesus on April 30, 2008, 07:48:27 PM

Quote from: Wakka Wakka on April 30, 2008, 07:40:52 PM

Wouldn't an infinite earth cause the earths width to infinitely small?  And wouldn't it be to thing to hold magma or tectonic plates.  Username should it some where before but I couldn't find it.  A finite # over infinity is infinitely small or something like that.

Only really stupid FE'ers thing the Earth is infinite. *cough*tom*cough*

Weird.

Ahh! He infected me!

I'll be sure to do that Evil.  Thanks.

Nice catch Roundy, fixed.

Some quantity can be considered infinite in one physical context and finite in another. 

Have any evidence to back up your outlandish claim?

Account 4?
Engy done banning you yet?

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I'm Gulliver! I'm not, really. Quick, look!

Quote from: EvilToothpaste on April 30, 2008, 10:57:16 PM

Some quantity can be considered infinite in one physical context and finite in another.

Have any evidence to back up your outlandish claim?

Yes.  The current supplied by the outlets in your house is so large that it is indistinguishable from an infinite current. 

Quote from: Gulliver on May 01, 2008, 09:09:14 PM

Quote from: EvilToothpaste on April 30, 2008, 10:57:16 PM

Some quantity can be considered infinite in one physical context and finite in another.

Have any evidence to back up your outlandish claim?

Yes.  The current supplied by the outlets in your house is so large that it is indistinguishable from an infinite current. 

I'm sure that the electric company would disagree.

They would.  But, in the range of household items, nothing you plug into the wall is going to drop the voltage entering your house.  Even your finger.  And since voltage is equal to resistance times current, when resistance goes to zero (by inserting tweezers, et cetera, into the outlet) current quickly goes to infinity.  We know it's not infinite, but for all intents and household purposes it is boundless. 

There are limits on the amount of current wires can carry, but that limit is only significant with the size of wires used inside a house, not so much on the outside. 

You're confusing very small with zero. That is a much bigger error than it seems.

I see your point.  I made an error in wording my argument. 

Let me say this:  resistance is not zero, and current is not infinite.  However, the amount of resistance is negligible (0.0000001 ohm/meter for most metals)  and the amount of current so immense (billions of amps) that it is indistinguishable from infinite current within the scope of a buildings electrical service. 

My entire point on infinity: it is not a number and it is often indistinguishable from a very large number.  Thus, the flat Earth could be large enough to contain atmospheric pressure for a great amount of time yet still be small enough not to require an infinite energy source to accelerate. 

I see your point.  I made an error in wording my argument. 

Let me say this:  resistance is not zero, and current is not infinite.  However, the amount of resistance is negligible (0.0000001 ohm/meter for most metals)  and the amount of current so immense (billions of amps) that it is indistinguishable from infinite current within the scope of a buildings electrical service. 

If you had a very small circuit, then maybe.  However, you need to take in to account all of the wiring from power plant to outlet.  That could be quite a few miles of negligible resistance adding up to a fairly significant value.

If you had a very small circuit, then maybe.  However, you need to take in to account all of the wiring from power plant to outlet.  That could be quite a few miles of negligible resistance adding up to a fairly significant value.

It is not negligible, but yes, it does add up to a fairly significant value.

Quote from: markjo on May 02, 2008, 12:11:46 PM

If you had a very small circuit, then maybe.  However, you need to take in to account all of the wiring from power plant to outlet.  That could be quite a few miles of negligible resistance adding up to a fairly significant value.

It is not negligible, but yes, it does add up to a fairly significant value.

What if i was to plug my future mother-in-law into the circuit? would she be able to resist the power, or would it kll her?

My entire point on infinity: it is not a number

No, actually it can be a number in some systems.

Who cares whether infinity is a number or mother in laws can get you infinite electricity? Is the Earth infinite or not?

Who cares whether infinity is a number or mother in laws can get you infinite electricity? Is the Earth infinite or not?

Of course it is.

There we have it, question answered, lets move on.

Oh so vague. 

If you had a very small circuit, then maybe.  However, you need to take in to account all of the wiring from power plant to outlet.  That could be quite a few miles of negligible resistance adding up to a fairly significant value.

I'm not talking about the power grid.  I'm talking about the resistance of something one plugs into an outlet.  There is a whole page full of posts you must have missed. 

No, actually it can be a number in some systems.

Maybe you mean it can be treated like a number in some systems.  It is a limit, though, not a number. 

Quote from: markjo on May 02, 2008, 12:11:46 PM

If you had a very small circuit, then maybe.  However, you need to take in to account all of the wiring from power plant to outlet.  That could be quite a few miles of negligible resistance adding up to a fairly significant value.

I'm not talking about the power grid.  I'm talking about the resistance of something one plugs into an outlet.  There is a whole page full of posts you must have missed. 

Quote from: Username on May 03, 2008, 09:21:39 AM

No, actually it can be a number in some systems.

Maybe you mean it can be treated like a number in some systems.  It is a limit, though, not a number. 

No, it *is* a number in some systems.

Furthermore, you could argue it is a number in all system - depending on whose definition of number you use.  Frege for example has a compatible definition for infinity and number.

Not to mention the work of Georg Cantor.

Please, can we move on? Someone asked for the FE opinion on whether the Earth is infinite, and it is. "Yes" isn't vague, it's conclusive. FET states that the Earth is infinite. Whether it's a number or not is of little importance.

The FE has several variants to their model, much like RE.
The infinite earth idea extends beyond our experience and is highly theoretical. Very few FE'ers believe this to be true, I know of only 2. Myself and Tom Bishop.

Please, can we move on? Someone asked for the FE opinion on whether the Earth is infinite, and it is. "Yes" isn't vague, it's conclusive. FET states that the Earth is infinite. Whether it's a number or not is of little importance.

I don't see how a discussion of "what is infinity" is so far off topic since some are claiming the Earth is infinite.  Seems very justified.  Plus, you have your answer so you have no reason to continue reading this thread.   

I'll post it in another thread, though, so you won't have any more tears.   

iPot for you, eviltoothpaste, iSuck for narc for ignoring Username.

Quote from: iPot maker. on May 03, 2008, 03:52:15 PM

Please, can we move on? Someone asked for the FE opinion on whether the Earth is infinite, and it is. "Yes" isn't vague, it's conclusive. FET states that the Earth is infinite. Whether it's a number or not is of little importance.

I don't see how a discussion of "what is infinity" is so far off topic since some are claiming the Earth is infinite.  Seems very justified.  Plus, you have your answer so you have no reason to continue reading this thread.   

I'll post it in another thread, though, so you won't have any more tears.   

Infinity = something that is infinite. Problem solved.