The possibility of proof...

Roundy, I may take you up on that later on... I do enjoy a good debate. And, I will conceed to you a certain win - you are right, I don't believe that religions outside of Christianity are true. Reasons being that they cannot be proven in real word experience - only Christianity offers real answers. Conspiracy, no... falsehood and lies? Yes.

Engineer, I have no interest in debating the existance of gravity with you. I COULD take a Tom approch and say "Jump out your window", but I won't, even thought it would be nice to know where we are going so fast, and what started this "upward thrust" that keeps us all chained to the planet.

Engineer, I have no interest in debating the existance of gravity with you. I COULD take a Tom approch and say "Jump out your window", but I won't,

Good, because that won't do anything to prove gravity is real.

even thought it would be nice to know where we are going so fast,

We are going up.

and what started this "upward thrust" that keeps us all chained to the planet.

The mechanism is unknown, but is given the placeholder name of Dark Energy.

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Engineer, I have no interest in debating the existance of gravity with you. I COULD take a Tom approch and say "Jump out your window", but I won't,

Good, because that won't do anything to prove gravity is real.

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even thought it would be nice to know where we are going so fast,

We are going up.

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and what started this "upward thrust" that keeps us all chained to the planet.

The mechanism is unknown, but is given the placeholder name of Dark Energy.

You are saying inertia is keeping you on our planet? Did any of you make it out of the 6th grade science classes? or did y'all find you didn't want to believe the truth and drop out of school?

What is wrong with inertia?


A few simple tools allows me to calculate the acceleration of the FE.

Well there is one thing I'm wondering, how do hurricanes form. If you know anything about meteorology what makes hurricanes form the way they do is by something referred to as the Coriolis Effect, even by you flawed logic of a FAQ. In a flat earth model hurricanes simply cannot form the way they do. The rotation of the hurricane itself is set by the rotation of the earth. Counter-Clockwise in the Northern Hemisphere and Clockwise in the Southern Hemisphere. Also, tornados are effected by the Coriolis Effect and you can look that up in  your own time.

Now lets find a practical use of this, snipers. Now for a sniper to shoot a 2 mile long shot he has to take in the effect of wind, drag, and the Coriolis Effect on the bullet. Now you can also even more practical, (most likely you will say its the pressure and direction of the water.) but the way the toilets flow in the Northern Hemisphere and the Southern Hemisphere. Also explain the ocean currents they too are effected by the earths rotation. Air Masses are also effect by earth's rotation, jet stream anyone?     

I can be bought and sold. Give me a fiver and I'll declare anything to be true.

Now you can also even more practical, (most likely you will say its the pressure and direction of the water.) but the way the toilets flow in the Northern Hemisphere and the Southern Hemisphere.     

The Coriolis effect does not decide which direction water drains in your toilet.   

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Now you can also even more practical, (most likely you will say its the pressure and direction of the water.) but the way the toilets flow in the Northern Hemisphere and the Southern Hemisphere.     

The Coriolis effect does not decide which direction water drains in your toilet.   

He wasn't saying the Coriolis Effect was used in toilets. But the FE model and theory does not explain how the toilet drains in one direction in the northern hemisphere, and in the opposite direction in the southern hemisphere. The Coriolis Effect however does affect tornadoes AND Hurricanes. How does your precious FE theory solve that?

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Now you can also even more practical, (most likely you will say its the pressure and direction of the water.) but the way the toilets flow in the Northern Hemisphere and the Southern Hemisphere.     

The Coriolis effect does not decide which direction water drains in your toilet.   

He wasn't saying the Coriolis Effect was used in toilets. But the FE model and theory does not explain how the toilet drains in one direction in the northern hemisphere, and in the opposite direction in the southern hemisphere.

It doesn't.  This is a myth.  That's what TheEngineer was pointing out.  Jesus, are people really this stupid? 

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Now you can also even more practical, (most likely you will say its the pressure and direction of the water.) but the way the toilets flow in the Northern Hemisphere and the Southern Hemisphere.     

The Coriolis effect does not decide which direction water drains in your toilet.   

He wasn't saying the Coriolis Effect was used in toilets. But the FE model and theory does not explain how the toilet drains in one direction in the northern hemisphere, and in the opposite direction in the southern hemisphere.

It doesn't.  This is a myth.  That's what TheEngineer was pointing out.  Jesus, are people really this stupid? 

A MYTH!?!?! ARE YOU FREAKING SERIOUS?!?!?!?!? Ok flush your toilet here and notice how the water swirls out. Then go to Australia and flush a toilet and watch how the water flows out there. You can't tamper with crap like that. Or do you have the intelligence or capability of finding the handle to flush your toilet...

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Now you can also even more practical, (most likely you will say its the pressure and direction of the water.) but the way the toilets flow in the Northern Hemisphere and the Southern Hemisphere.     

The Coriolis effect does not decide which direction water drains in your toilet.   

He wasn't saying the Coriolis Effect was used in toilets. But the FE model and theory does not explain how the toilet drains in one direction in the northern hemisphere, and in the opposite direction in the southern hemisphere.

It doesn't.  This is a myth.  That's what TheEngineer was pointing out.  Jesus, are people really this stupid? 

A MYTH!?!?! ARE YOU FREAKING SERIOUS?!?!?!?!? Ok flush your toilet here and notice how the water swirls out. Then go to Australia and flush a toilet and watch how the water flows out there. You can't tamper with crap like that. Or do you have the intelligence or capability of finding the handle to flush your toilet...

ROTFLMAO

It's a myth.  Honestly.  No bullshit.  Look it up.

Ignore the toilet thing and answer the damn question, presumably you'll make up something new to explain it and I really wanna see the imagination potential of you FE'ers

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Now you can also even more practical, (most likely you will say its the pressure and direction of the water.) but the way the toilets flow in the Northern Hemisphere and the Southern Hemisphere.     

The Coriolis effect does not decide which direction water drains in your toilet.   

He wasn't saying the Coriolis Effect was used in toilets. But the FE model and theory does not explain how the toilet drains in one direction in the northern hemisphere, and in the opposite direction in the southern hemisphere.

It doesn't.  This is a myth.  That's what TheEngineer was pointing out.  Jesus, are people really this stupid? 

A MYTH!?!?! ARE YOU FREAKING SERIOUS?!?!?!?!? Ok flush your toilet here and notice how the water swirls out. Then go to Australia and flush a toilet and watch how the water flows out there. You can't tamper with crap like that. Or do you have the intelligence or capability of finding the handle to flush your toilet...

ROTFLMAO

It's a myth.  Honestly.  No bullshit.  Look it up.

you truly do have the intelligence level of a Pharisee, dud you are a complete idiot. I love people because God is love, but this is getting kind of ridiculous. I will let you call the toilet thing a myth because that is all you FE guys know how to say. but you have yet to explain the snipers, hurricanes, or tornadoes, and that is probably because you have to somehow make something up that seems to fit in your 12 year old mind. have fun.

GOD BLESS YOU AND HAVE A GREAT DAY!

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Quote from: Roundearthandjesus on April 21, 2008, 09:07:28 AM

Now you can also even more practical, (most likely you will say its the pressure and direction of the water.) but the way the toilets flow in the Northern Hemisphere and the Southern Hemisphere.     

The Coriolis effect does not decide which direction water drains in your toilet.   

He wasn't saying the Coriolis Effect was used in toilets. But the FE model and theory does not explain how the toilet drains in one direction in the northern hemisphere, and in the opposite direction in the southern hemisphere.

It doesn't.  This is a myth.  That's what TheEngineer was pointing out.  Jesus, are people really this stupid? 

A MYTH!?!?! ARE YOU FREAKING SERIOUS?!?!?!?!? Ok flush your toilet here and notice how the water swirls out. Then go to Australia and flush a toilet and watch how the water flows out there. You can't tamper with crap like that. Or do you have the intelligence or capability of finding the handle to flush your toilet...

ROTFLMAO

It's a myth.  Honestly.  No bullshit.  Look it up.

you truly do have the intelligence level of a Pharisee, dud you are a complete idiot. I love people because God is love, but this is getting kind of ridiculous. I will let you call the toilet thing a myth because that is all you FE guys know how to say. but you have yet to explain the snipers, hurricanes, or tornadoes, and that is probably because you have to somehow make something up that seems to fit in your 12 year old mind. have fun.

GOD BLESS YOU AND HAVE A GREAT DAY!

Did you look it up?

Whilst it's theoretically possible to observe the Coriolis effect in water draining out of a bowl, it would be incredibly difficult, due to the speed with which the water drains out and the lack of precision with which a toilet bowl is made. Many other factors are likely to influence the direction the water flows, if it even flows in a spiral at all.

There are, however, a number of other phenomena that are explained by the Coriolis effect. Weather systems, ocean currents, pendulums, stuff like that. It's unfortunate that people frequently make the mistake of using examples such as this, as people round here tear it apart like ravenous tigers.

By the way, the FE explanation for the Coriolis effect is some bizarre hypothesis called 'Gravitational gearing' or something like that.

ROTFLMAO

It's a myth.  Honestly.  No bullshit.  Look it up.

Well, seeing this kind of an answer after the question the guy asked you, I can make these 3 assumptions:

1) You have ADD so you couldn't read to the end of his post and just randomly answered it

2) There's something wrong with the way you think so you can't develop any solution based on logic

3) You're just doing this for fun and probably laughing your ass off in the process

I think number 3 is the most likely one  

P.S. You don't even have to go to australia lol, just ask someone that's from there. Altough many people will probs think you're a weirdo, asking them what way their toilet water flushes lol

I hate to side with the FE crew, but they're right. Water doesn't flow opposite on the other side of the earth. Imagine my surprise on my first trip to New Zealand to find out that  water doesn't flow the other way...

Darn that Sesame Street and their lies!

They don't have an explanation for the Coriolis Effect yet, they are just stalling while they think one up.

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Quote from: Roundearthandjesus on April 21, 2008, 09:07:28 AM

Now you can also even more practical, (most likely you will say its the pressure and direction of the water.) but the way the toilets flow in the Northern Hemisphere and the Southern Hemisphere.     

The Coriolis effect does not decide which direction water drains in your toilet.   

He wasn't saying the Coriolis Effect was used in toilets. But the FE model and theory does not explain how the toilet drains in one direction in the northern hemisphere, and in the opposite direction in the southern hemisphere.

It doesn't.  This is a myth.  That's what TheEngineer was pointing out.  Jesus, are people really this stupid? 

A MYTH!?!?! ARE YOU FREAKING SERIOUS?!?!?!?!? Ok flush your toilet here and notice how the water swirls out. Then go to Australia and flush a toilet and watch how the water flows out there. You can't tamper with crap like that. Or do you have the intelligence or capability of finding the handle to flush your toilet...

ROTFLMAO

It's a myth.  Honestly.  No bullshit.  Look it up.

you truly do have the intelligence level of a Pharisee, dud you are a complete idiot. I love people because God is love, but this is getting kind of ridiculous. I will let you call the toilet thing a myth because that is all you FE guys know how to say. but you have yet to explain the snipers, hurricanes, or tornadoes, and that is probably because you have to somehow make something up that seems to fit in your 12 year old mind. have fun.

GOD BLESS YOU AND HAVE A GREAT DAY!

Did you look it up?

It would do me no good because the moment I posted information about you being wrong you would call it a conspiracy, or you would call it tampered with. I know how you Pharisees work. Yes I am calling you all Pharisees now.

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Quote from: Roundearthandjesus on April 21, 2008, 09:07:28 AM

Now you can also even more practical, (most likely you will say its the pressure and direction of the water.) but the way the toilets flow in the Northern Hemisphere and the Southern Hemisphere.     

The Coriolis effect does not decide which direction water drains in your toilet.   

He wasn't saying the Coriolis Effect was used in toilets. But the FE model and theory does not explain how the toilet drains in one direction in the northern hemisphere, and in the opposite direction in the southern hemisphere.

It doesn't.  This is a myth.  That's what TheEngineer was pointing out.  Jesus, are people really this stupid? 

A MYTH!?!?! ARE YOU FREAKING SERIOUS?!?!?!?!? Ok flush your toilet here and notice how the water swirls out. Then go to Australia and flush a toilet and watch how the water flows out there. You can't tamper with crap like that. Or do you have the intelligence or capability of finding the handle to flush your toilet...

ROTFLMAO

It's a myth.  Honestly.  No bullshit.  Look it up.

you truly do have the intelligence level of a Pharisee, dud you are a complete idiot. I love people because God is love, but this is getting kind of ridiculous. I will let you call the toilet thing a myth because that is all you FE guys know how to say. but you have yet to explain the snipers, hurricanes, or tornadoes, and that is probably because you have to somehow make something up that seems to fit in your 12 year old mind. have fun.

GOD BLESS YOU AND HAVE A GREAT DAY!

Did you look it up?

It would do me no good because the moment I posted information about you being wrong you would call it a conspiracy, or you would call it tampered with. I know how you Pharisees work. Yes I am calling you all Pharisees now.

The toilet thing is a myth man just give it up

Roundearth, from one Intellegent Design advocate to another, quit it. You're making us look bad with this "Pharisee" stuff.

You guys have no idea how happy I am to know that I am not the only sane person on this site. I am also happy to know that I am not the only one here who thinks that the FE believers are Pharisees. (my new way of calling people idiots, as that is what the Pharisees were)

I know how you Pharisees work. Yes I am calling you all Pharisees now.

Oh no.  I have been deeply insulted. 

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Now you can also even more practical, (most likely you will say its the pressure and direction of the water.) but the way the toilets flow in the Northern Hemisphere and the Southern Hemisphere.     

The Coriolis effect does not decide which direction water drains in your toilet.   

He wasn't saying the Coriolis Effect was used in toilets. But the FE model and theory does not explain how the toilet drains in one direction in the northern hemisphere, and in the opposite direction in the southern hemisphere.

It doesn't.  This is a myth.  That's what TheEngineer was pointing out.  Jesus, are people really this stupid? 

A MYTH!?!?! ARE YOU FREAKING SERIOUS?!?!?!?!? Ok flush your toilet here and notice how the water swirls out. Then go to Australia and flush a toilet and watch how the water flows out there. You can't tamper with crap like that. Or do you have the intelligence or capability of finding the handle to flush your toilet...

ROTFLMAO

It's a myth.  Honestly.  No bullshit.  Look it up.

you truly do have the intelligence level of a Pharisee, dud you are a complete idiot. I love people because God is love, but this is getting kind of ridiculous. I will let you call the toilet thing a myth because that is all you FE guys know how to say. but you have yet to explain the snipers, hurricanes, or tornadoes, and that is probably because you have to somehow make something up that seems to fit in your 12 year old mind. have fun.

GOD BLESS YOU AND HAVE A GREAT DAY!

Did you look it up?

It would do me no good because the moment I posted information about you being wrong you would call it a conspiracy, or you would call it tampered with. I know how you Pharisees work. Yes I am calling you all Pharisees now.

We're all religious leaders from Biblical times? Wow we must be really old.

Roundearth, from one Intellegent Design advocate to another, quit it. You're making us look bad with this "Pharisee" stuff.

I don't believe in an Intelligent Design. I believe in the one true God. The one who created this ROUND EARTH. You might too and I hope you do, but I don't in a sense like seeing Him called an Intelligent Designer, though He is. And the Pharisees were idiots.

*sigh*

Come off it.

ID, RE, FE... whatever.

I'm here because I enjoy a good debate and I like learning other people's views. You are here to make Christians look immature. Stop it, and come up with a better debate.

*sigh*

Come off it.

ID, RE, FE... whatever.

I'm here because I enjoy a good debate and I like learning other people's views. You are here to make Christians look immature. Stop it, and come up with a better debate.

I think he's a lost cause

Anyway, back to the questions at hand...

I noticed in another thread that Tom stated that tides are caused by a slight wobble in the earth. Due to the theory that the earth is rising upward at such as fast pace, would that not increase the wobble to the point that the earth would shatter? Also, how does that fit into Tom's (new?) viewpoint of the earth actually being an infinite plane beyond the ice wall?

You're not supposed to take Tom seriously. He's more like the lovable village idiot.

Username's hypothesis is that there is actually another body below the earth called the antimoon that reacts with the moon to somehow cause the tides.  Don't ask me to explain it though.

I don't see how the "wobble" theory can possibly fit with Tom's "infinite plane" theory.  Maybe he'll come along and explain it.