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Okay, I'm new
« on: April 17, 2008, 09:59:17 AM »
So, the people here believe the world is flat.

Can anyone here provide a mathematical proof that it is.

I'm fairly certain that we have one that states it's round, so can anyone provide statistics otherwise?

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Re: Okay, I'm new
« Reply #1 on: April 17, 2008, 10:01:15 AM »
Read Earth Not a Globe by Dr. Samuel Birley Rowbotham.

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« Reply #2 on: April 17, 2008, 10:06:10 AM »
So, the people here believe the world is flat.

Amazingly enough.

Can anyone here provide a mathematical proof that it is.

No. Get used to this phrase: What do you see out of your window?

I'm fairly certain that we have one that states it's round, so can anyone provide statistics otherwise?
I believe it's 95% Round Earthers and 5% Flat Earthers


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Re: Okay, I'm new
« Reply #3 on: April 17, 2008, 10:09:41 AM »
Read Earth Not a Globe by Dr. Samuel Birley Rowbotham.

I'm not asking for reading material, I'm asking for someone to post mathematical proofs, if you would be so kind

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« Reply #4 on: April 17, 2008, 10:15:37 AM »
I think there's someone who posts on the forum that has a large banner in their signature with this:

Big Bang + MAGIC = (a picture of a flat earth whizzing through space at 1 g)

I think that's the best math you'll be able to get.

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Re: Okay, I'm new
« Reply #5 on: April 17, 2008, 10:20:51 AM »
Read Earth Not a Globe by Dr. Samuel Birley Rowbotham.

I'm not asking for reading material, I'm asking for someone to post mathematical proofs, if you would be so kind

If you can't be bothered to read then why should we bother to answer your questions?
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Re: Okay, I'm new
« Reply #6 on: April 17, 2008, 10:54:41 AM »
Read Earth Not a Globe by Dr. Samuel Birley Rowbotham.

I'm not asking for reading material, I'm asking for someone to post mathematical proofs, if you would be so kind

If you can't be bothered to read then why should we bother to answer your questions?

Well played as usual
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« Reply #7 on: April 17, 2008, 11:06:36 AM »
Thank you my good sir.
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Re: Okay, I'm new
« Reply #8 on: April 17, 2008, 11:08:52 AM »
Is Dino open source?

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« Reply #9 on: April 17, 2008, 12:17:47 PM »
So, the people here believe the world is flat.

Can anyone here provide a mathematical proof that it is.

I'm fairly certain that we have one that states it's round, so can anyone provide statistics otherwise?

EXPERIMENT 1.

A boat, with a flag-staff, the top of the flag 5 feet above the surface of the water, was directed to sail from a place called "Welche's Dam" (a well-known ferry passage), to another called "Welney Bridge." These two points are six statute miles apart. The author, with a good telescope, went into the water; and with the eye about 8 inches above the surface, observed the receding boat during the whole period required to sail to Welney Bridge. The flag and the boat were distinctly visible throughout the whole distance! There could be no

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mistake as to the distance passed over, as the man in charge of the boat had instructions to lift one of his oars to the top of the arch the moment he reached the bridge. The experiment commenced about three o'clock in the afternoon of a summer's day, and the sun was shining brightly and nearly behind or against the boat during the whole of its passage. Every necessary condition had been fulfilled, and the result was to the last degree definite and satisfactory. The conclusion was unavoidable that the surface of the water for a length of six miles did not to any appreciable extent decline or curvate downwards from the line of sight. But if the earth is a globe, the surface of the six miles length of water would have been 6 feet higher in the centre than at the two extremities, as shown in diagram fig. 2; but as the telescope was only 8 inches above the

FIG. 2.
FIG. 2.

water, the highest point of the surface would have been at one mile from the place of observation; and below this point the surface of the water at the end of the remaining five miles would have been 16 feet.

Let A B represent the arc of water 6 miles long, and A C the line of sight. The point of contact with the arc would be at T, a distance of one mile from the observer at A. From T to the bridge at B would be 5 miles, and the curvature from T to B would be 16 feet 8 inches. The top of the flag on the boat (which was 5 feet high) would have been 11 feet 8 inches below

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the horizon T, and altogether out of sight. Such a condition was not observed; but the following diagram, fig. 3, exhibits the true state of the case--A, B, the line of sight, equi-distant.

FIG. 3.
FIG. 3.

from or parallel with the surface of the water throughout the whole distance of 6 milts: From which it is concluded that the surface of standing water is not convex, but horizontal.

You can see the original text, along with the diagrams, here.  Feel free to browse through the other experiments which mathematically prove the earth to be flat as well.  The contents are here.
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Re: Okay, I'm new
« Reply #10 on: April 17, 2008, 12:36:55 PM »
Mathematical Proofs have nothing to do with reality.
If you can't, argue both sides, you understand neither

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Re: Okay, I'm new
« Reply #11 on: April 17, 2008, 04:45:53 PM »
threepointonefouronefiveninetwosixfivefourfivethreefive

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Re: Okay, I'm new
« Reply #12 on: April 17, 2008, 04:50:21 PM »
Mathematical Proofs have nothing to do with reality.
Fuck a knife.

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Re: Okay, I'm new
« Reply #13 on: April 17, 2008, 06:03:05 PM »
Read Earth Not a Globe by Dr. Samuel Birley Rowbotham.

I'm not asking for reading material, I'm asking for someone to post mathematical proofs, if you would be so kind
mathematical proof of the shape of the earth isn't possible.

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Re: Okay, I'm new
« Reply #14 on: April 20, 2008, 04:15:17 PM »
Here's proof that the earth is flat. Just punch it in you'r calculator, and fill in the variables.


R+34.534^(Cosine(ε+3*3.114))=((T/Δ-β*π)/-1+(!ρ))^-1/3
« Last Edit: April 20, 2008, 04:21:35 PM by Anteater7171 »
I don't remember anything. Well, I do, but it's really vague. Like I was on drugs the whole time.

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Re: Okay, I'm new
« Reply #15 on: April 20, 2008, 04:31:08 PM »
So, the people here believe the world is flat.

Can anyone here provide a mathematical proof that it is.

I'm fairly certain that we have one that states it's round, so can anyone provide statistics otherwise?

EXPERIMENT 1.

A boat, with a flag-staff, the top of the flag 5 feet above the surface of the water, was directed to sail from a place called "Welche's Dam" (a well-known ferry passage), to another called "Welney Bridge." These two points are six statute miles apart. The author, with a good telescope, went into the water; and with the eye about 8 inches above the surface, observed the receding boat during the whole period required to sail to Welney Bridge. The flag and the boat were distinctly visible throughout the whole distance! There could be no

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mistake as to the distance passed over, as the man in charge of the boat had instructions to lift one of his oars to the top of the arch the moment he reached the bridge. The experiment commenced about three o'clock in the afternoon of a summer's day, and the sun was shining brightly and nearly behind or against the boat during the whole of its passage. Every necessary condition had been fulfilled, and the result was to the last degree definite and satisfactory. The conclusion was unavoidable that the surface of the water for a length of six miles did not to any appreciable extent decline or curvate downwards from the line of sight. But if the earth is a globe, the surface of the six miles length of water would have been 6 feet higher in the centre than at the two extremities, as shown in diagram fig. 2; but as the telescope was only 8 inches above the

FIG. 2.
FIG. 2.

water, the highest point of the surface would have been at one mile from the place of observation; and below this point the surface of the water at the end of the remaining five miles would have been 16 feet.

Let A B represent the arc of water 6 miles long, and A C the line of sight. The point of contact with the arc would be at T, a distance of one mile from the observer at A. From T to the bridge at B would be 5 miles, and the curvature from T to B would be 16 feet 8 inches. The top of the flag on the boat (which was 5 feet high) would have been 11 feet 8 inches below

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the horizon T, and altogether out of sight. Such a condition was not observed; but the following diagram, fig. 3, exhibits the true state of the case--A, B, the line of sight, equi-distant.

FIG. 3.
FIG. 3.

from or parallel with the surface of the water throughout the whole distance of 6 milts: From which it is concluded that the surface of standing water is not convex, but horizontal.

You can see the original text, along with the diagrams, here.  Feel free to browse through the other experiments which mathematically prove the earth to be flat as well.  The contents are here.
Those experiments make me laugh. The diagrams make the Earth look like a tiny globe. As it is massive there is no way to determine a curve over those distances.
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Re: Okay, I'm new
« Reply #16 on: April 20, 2008, 04:48:59 PM »
So, the people here believe the world is flat.

Can anyone here provide a mathematical proof that it is.

I'm fairly certain that we have one that states it's round, so can anyone provide statistics otherwise?

EXPERIMENT 1.

A boat, with a flag-staff, the top of the flag 5 feet above the surface of the water, was directed to sail from a place called "Welche's Dam" (a well-known ferry passage), to another called "Welney Bridge." These two points are six statute miles apart. The author, with a good telescope, went into the water; and with the eye about 8 inches above the surface, observed the receding boat during the whole period required to sail to Welney Bridge. The flag and the boat were distinctly visible throughout the whole distance! There could be no

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mistake as to the distance passed over, as the man in charge of the boat had instructions to lift one of his oars to the top of the arch the moment he reached the bridge. The experiment commenced about three o'clock in the afternoon of a summer's day, and the sun was shining brightly and nearly behind or against the boat during the whole of its passage. Every necessary condition had been fulfilled, and the result was to the last degree definite and satisfactory. The conclusion was unavoidable that the surface of the water for a length of six miles did not to any appreciable extent decline or curvate downwards from the line of sight. But if the earth is a globe, the surface of the six miles length of water would have been 6 feet higher in the centre than at the two extremities, as shown in diagram fig. 2; but as the telescope was only 8 inches above the

FIG. 2.
FIG. 2.

water, the highest point of the surface would have been at one mile from the place of observation; and below this point the surface of the water at the end of the remaining five miles would have been 16 feet.

Let A B represent the arc of water 6 miles long, and A C the line of sight. The point of contact with the arc would be at T, a distance of one mile from the observer at A. From T to the bridge at B would be 5 miles, and the curvature from T to B would be 16 feet 8 inches. The top of the flag on the boat (which was 5 feet high) would have been 11 feet 8 inches below

p. 13

the horizon T, and altogether out of sight. Such a condition was not observed; but the following diagram, fig. 3, exhibits the true state of the case--A, B, the line of sight, equi-distant.

FIG. 3.
FIG. 3.

from or parallel with the surface of the water throughout the whole distance of 6 milts: From which it is concluded that the surface of standing water is not convex, but horizontal.

You can see the original text, along with the diagrams, here.  Feel free to browse through the other experiments which mathematically prove the earth to be flat as well.  The contents are here.
Those experiments make me laugh. The diagrams make the Earth look like a tiny globe. As it is massive there is no way to determine a curve over those distances.

The diagrams are not meant to be at scale.

The math is correct.
Where did you educate the biology, in toulet?

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Re: Okay, I'm new
« Reply #17 on: April 20, 2008, 04:52:48 PM »
So, the people here believe the world is flat.

Can anyone here provide a mathematical proof that it is.

I'm fairly certain that we have one that states it's round, so can anyone provide statistics otherwise?

EXPERIMENT 1.

A boat, with a flag-staff, the top of the flag 5 feet above the surface of the water, was directed to sail from a place called "Welche's Dam" (a well-known ferry passage), to another called "Welney Bridge." These two points are six statute miles apart. The author, with a good telescope, went into the water; and with the eye about 8 inches above the surface, observed the receding boat during the whole period required to sail to Welney Bridge. The flag and the boat were distinctly visible throughout the whole distance! There could be no

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mistake as to the distance passed over, as the man in charge of the boat had instructions to lift one of his oars to the top of the arch the moment he reached the bridge. The experiment commenced about three o'clock in the afternoon of a summer's day, and the sun was shining brightly and nearly behind or against the boat during the whole of its passage. Every necessary condition had been fulfilled, and the result was to the last degree definite and satisfactory. The conclusion was unavoidable that the surface of the water for a length of six miles did not to any appreciable extent decline or curvate downwards from the line of sight. But if the earth is a globe, the surface of the six miles length of water would have been 6 feet higher in the centre than at the two extremities, as shown in diagram fig. 2; but as the telescope was only 8 inches above the

FIG. 2.
FIG. 2.

water, the highest point of the surface would have been at one mile from the place of observation; and below this point the surface of the water at the end of the remaining five miles would have been 16 feet.

Let A B represent the arc of water 6 miles long, and A C the line of sight. The point of contact with the arc would be at T, a distance of one mile from the observer at A. From T to the bridge at B would be 5 miles, and the curvature from T to B would be 16 feet 8 inches. The top of the flag on the boat (which was 5 feet high) would have been 11 feet 8 inches below

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the horizon T, and altogether out of sight. Such a condition was not observed; but the following diagram, fig. 3, exhibits the true state of the case--A, B, the line of sight, equi-distant.

FIG. 3.
FIG. 3.

from or parallel with the surface of the water throughout the whole distance of 6 milts: From which it is concluded that the surface of standing water is not convex, but horizontal.

You can see the original text, along with the diagrams, here.  Feel free to browse through the other experiments which mathematically prove the earth to be flat as well.  The contents are here.
Those experiments make me laugh. The diagrams make the Earth look like a tiny globe. As it is massive there is no way to determine a curve over those distances.

The diagrams are not meant to be at scale.

The math is correct.
6 miles is enough to determine the Curvature of the Earth which is meant to have a circumference of almost 25,000 miles?
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Re: Okay, I'm new
« Reply #18 on: April 20, 2008, 05:00:22 PM »
Clearly. [/hopefullyobvioussarcasm]
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« Reply #19 on: April 20, 2008, 05:02:48 PM »
In the navy, we used laser spotting technology in a surveying capacity.  As we moved in any direction we discovered the beams would cross over a flat point of earth where we would measure the angle between the beam and the earth, declination, as it traveled beyond the apex or flat point.  We did this over vast areas in order to improve certain navigational techniques.  In essence, the laser worked like placing any flat edge on a globe.  Hence, we were able to measure the distance between the straight edge and the globe.  The further out you traveled after the apex, the angle between the straight edge and the earth below it increased, i.e. declination.  These measurements were put into computer models in a comparative analysis to satellite imagery to test our instruments accuracy.  So I guess I have seen with my eyes that the earth is a sphere.  I suppose that some type of interference with the physics of a beam of light, i.e. bending of light, in hundreds of thousand measurements around the earth could have thrown the beam off in the exact amount of refraction at each location with each measurement.  We did calibrate and test each laser for accuracy before, during and after use.  Unfortunately such a statistical anomaly would have been detected.    Although one must consider that I could be a government conspirator, and I am lying about the measurements I took in order to come here and disprove the flat earth theory for a secret government conspiracy whose purpose must remain unknown (aliens might be involved). 
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Re: Okay, I'm new
« Reply #20 on: April 20, 2008, 06:03:07 PM »
Least noobish first post ever? maybe.

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« Reply #21 on: April 20, 2008, 06:04:21 PM »
My first post wasn't noobish. I don't think I questioned the flat earth at all, didn't even reference it as far as I remember.
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« Reply #22 on: April 20, 2008, 06:05:50 PM »
You are still noobish gayer. That is why we love your whorish ways.  :-*

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« Reply #23 on: April 20, 2008, 06:06:16 PM »
I am not noobish  >:(
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« Reply #24 on: April 21, 2008, 07:34:25 AM »
She's as troll-y as she was when she was a noob. ;D


My first post was quite intelligent actually. >> 's far as I recall.

But that's years of being on other forums for you.
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Re: Okay, I'm new
« Reply #25 on: April 21, 2008, 09:08:51 AM »
Yeah I never change, I just get told off less these days
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Re: Okay, I'm new
« Reply #26 on: April 21, 2008, 11:12:01 AM »
That's because all of the FEers are leaving.
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« Reply #27 on: April 21, 2008, 11:29:30 AM »
The same ones are here that were here when I arrived. I think. Actually I don't really remember much of who was around prior to the banning.
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Re: Okay, I'm new
« Reply #28 on: April 21, 2008, 01:32:39 PM »
What happened to Dogplatter? He taught me most of FET.
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« Reply #29 on: April 21, 2008, 01:33:29 PM »
He's around sometimes, pops back now and again.
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