Flat Earth Diagram (Discrepancies with the Moon)

*Not to scale.

The main problem I have is the cause of the moon's light, since the sun can't be the cause unless the Earth's atmosphere refraction abilities have moved on to magic, or unless the sun's light is reflecting off the Earth.

Or unless the sun and moon are above the atmosphere, at a level where the light proceeds un-refracted.

I thought the moon gave off some type of special cold light that has nothing to do with the sun. 

Or unless the sun and moon are above the atmosphere, at a level where the light proceeds un-refracted.

But that would imply that the Sun's light proceeds above the atmosphere at an angle where the moon (on the other side of the Earth) is hit.  Which, unless the refraction is magical and causes light to refract backwards back toward the daylight side, would cause the night side to receive light.

And, I will point out, the Sun would be on the Northern sky in the Northern hemisphere, which is not observed at this angle I am showing.


Unless the light is reflected OR the moon is somehow hit by light that CANNOT cross the North Pole, there is a problem.

Yes, the Moon emits its own light. It's no surprise that the maths doesn't add up when you try and figure it out as if it's reflecting sunlight.

So if the moon emits it's own light, what causes moon phases?

So if the moon emits it's own light, what causes moon phases?

Here comes the shadow object!!

So if the moon emits it's own light, what causes moon phases?

A very large weather system on the moon, the shadow object, or something completely unknown.

I prefer Discworld's explanation:

The moon is slightly closer to the Disc than the sun, and is covered, on one half, with silvery glowing plants, which feed the lunar dragons[1]. The other half is burnt black by the sun. The moon rotates, and completes a full revolution in about a month; the full moon occurs when the luminescent side is completely visible from the Disc, the new moon when the dark side is shown. The sun's orbit is so complex that one of the elephants has to cock its leg to allow the sun to continue on its orbit.

Shadow Object can't cause the lunar phases cause a circular shadow cannot account for the gibbous portion of the cycle. Weather systems cant explain it because there are pictures were only a sliver of moon is directly brightened, but due to the time exposer of the photo you can see details in the non lit portion. So unless these are magical transparent clouds...

So unless these are magical transparent clouds...

Because clouds on Earth don't have some level of transparency.  I suppose they are magic also?

Because clouds on Earth don't have some level of transparency.  I suppose they are magic also?

This statement confused me. You said clouds on Earth don't have levels of transparency. Unless you are meaning that they do have some level of transparency, I don't deny that. I'm saying that you cannot see detail through clouds and if they were on the moon, then the dark lit portion would not have any detail as disproved by these time exposure photos.

Quote from: Username on March 11, 2008, 09:45:26 PM

Because clouds on Earth don't have some level of transparency.  I suppose they are magic also?

This statement confused me. You said clouds on Earth don't have levels of transparency. Unless you are meaning that they do have some level of transparency, I don't deny that. I'm saying that you cannot see detail through clouds and if they were on the moon, then the dark lit portion would not have any detail as disproved by these time exposure photos.

If they can be semitransparent, how can you not see details through them?

Clouds don't explain moon phases, that's just sill.  We don't see clouds around the moon.  And that cloud would have to orbit the moon or something while not being seen...  It's just silly.

Its seen everytime you see the moon phases.  I don't see how that is "while not being seen."

Its not clouds, its a giant moonsized "cloud" that follows a predictable pattern.  Or as I'd call it, Moon Molasses.

Yes, but you don't see the clous besides when it's over the moon.  Even if it does orbit the moon, we would still see signs of it around the moon.  The same problem as the shadow object.

The only problem I have with your idea is that there really do appear to be shadows across the craters on the light/dark border.  You can see the darkened parts of the craters on the light side and light points on the dark side.  I'm not sure how this would be possible with a giant cloud system obscuring one half of the moon.  It seems that the border would kind of just blend into from dark to light, not leaving these obvious shadows and light points.  Here's a good picture of it taken by an amateur:

Seriously, if it were clouds they would not be any kind of cloud that we know (considering how staggeringly predictable they are, especially).

If they can be semitransparent, how can you not see details through them?

Semitransparent, another name for translucent. Definition = light passes through diffusely, but they cannot be seen through. Now if you could see some light in the dark regions of these type of pictures I'm talking about, then I might be able to almost believe this cloud theory. However, lunar details are also visible. Clouds that would be this thick/dense to block the light would ALSO block the detail.


This is the kind of picture I am talking about. Detail can bee seen in the dark portion of the moon.

That picture should have light radiating from all directions, then bending back on itself to form the spotlight.

Duh.