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Re: Solar Size
« Reply #180 on: March 23, 2008, 02:27:35 PM »
Show the physics where a photon bends spacetime. 
You hold that it does not?

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Relativity says otherwise?  Then how does space know how to bend and by how much?
Already been discussed.
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Re: Solar Size
« Reply #181 on: March 23, 2008, 02:44:33 PM »
Show the physics where a photon bends spacetime. 
You hold that it does not?
I just wanted you to show it. 

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Look at that, sokarul avoiding a question, again. 
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« Reply #182 on: March 23, 2008, 02:45:36 PM »
And for the most part the atmosphere is consistent.     
Since when?
Already denminstrated.  Less than a .003 change over 150 kilometers. 
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« Reply #183 on: March 23, 2008, 02:53:03 PM »
Show the physics where a photon bends spacetime. 
You hold that it does not?
I just wanted you to show it. 
So you admit that you were wrong?  Photons do have a gravitational field.


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« Reply #184 on: March 23, 2008, 02:53:36 PM »
And for the most part the atmosphere is consistent.     
Since when?
Already denminstrated.  Less than a .003 change over 150 kilometers. 
Nine orders of magnitude.  You must be the worst chemistry student in your school.


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« Reply #185 on: March 23, 2008, 02:55:53 PM »
Show the physics where a photon bends spacetime. 
You hold that it does not?
I just wanted you to show it. 
So you admit that you were wrong?  Photons do have a gravitational field.
So you can't show it?
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« Reply #186 on: March 23, 2008, 02:56:59 PM »
And for the most part the atmosphere is consistent.     
Since when?
Already denminstrated.  Less than a .003 change over 150 kilometers. 
Nine orders of magnitude.  You must be the worst chemistry student in your school.
Says the guy who thinks E=E^2. 
Show the chart you used to get 9 orders of magnitude. 
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« Reply #187 on: March 23, 2008, 02:59:11 PM »
So you can't show it?
I can show it.  Can you show that they do not?


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« Reply #188 on: March 23, 2008, 02:59:40 PM »
Says the guy who thinks E=E^2. 
Hmm, when did I think that?


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Re: Solar Size
« Reply #189 on: March 23, 2008, 03:01:41 PM »
Says the guy who thinks E=E^2. 
Says the guy that thinks 1=-1
If you can't argue b!oth sides, you understandd neither

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« Reply #190 on: March 23, 2008, 03:02:13 PM »
So you can't show it?
I can show it.  Can you show that they do not?
Show it then.  
Says the guy who thinks E=E^2. 
Hmm, when did I think that?
Set mass to any positive non zero
E^2=p^2c^2+m^2c^4
Any questions? 
Yes.  You just said E=pc does not apply to objects with mass.  Yet, you have it right there in your equation.  Make up your mind, please.
Says the guy who thinks E=E^2. 
Says the guy that thinks 1=-1
Never said that.  You just can't comprehend phsyics. 
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Re: Solar Size
« Reply #191 on: March 23, 2008, 03:04:38 PM »

Says the guy who thinks E=E^2. 
Says the guy that thinks 1=-1
Never said that.  You jsut can't comprehend phsyics. 
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I believe you said:
-mv = mv
Dividing by m and v, we see -1=1.

Grats.
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« Reply #192 on: March 23, 2008, 03:05:58 PM »

Says the guy who thinks E=E^2. 
Says the guy that thinks 1=-1
Never said that.  You jsut can't comprehend phsyics. 
I believe you said:
-mv = mv
Dividing by m and v, we see -1=1.

Grats.
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If you have a problem with that equation, feel free to write to the people that write textbooks. 
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« Reply #193 on: March 23, 2008, 03:12:17 PM »
I believe you said:
-mv = mv
Dividing by m and v, we see -1=1.

Grats.

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« Reply #194 on: March 23, 2008, 03:13:18 PM »
So you can't show it?
I can show it.  Can you show that they do not?
Show it then. 
You just did it for me in your post.  Grats on your double failure.



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« Reply #195 on: March 23, 2008, 03:14:04 PM »
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Says the guy who thinks E=E^2. 
Hmm, when did I think that?
Set mass to any positive non zero
E^2=p^2c^2+m^2c^4
Any questions? 
Yes.  You just said E=pc does not apply to objects with mass.  Yet, you have it right there in your equation.  Make up your mind, please.
Says the guy who thinks E=E^2. 
Says the guy that thinks 1=-1
Never said that.  You just can't comprehend phsyics. 
pwnd
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« Reply #196 on: March 23, 2008, 03:17:30 PM »
So you can't show it?
I can show it.  Can you show that they do not?
Show it then. 
You just did it for me in your post.  Grats on your double failure.



I showed the physics where a photon emits a graviton? 
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« Reply #197 on: March 23, 2008, 03:18:13 PM »
Yep.


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« Reply #198 on: March 23, 2008, 03:19:01 PM »
Yep.

Cool, do I get a nobel prize? 
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« Reply #199 on: March 23, 2008, 03:21:15 PM »
No Einstein already got it. 

I find it quite telling that you have no idea what I am talking about even though you took Modern Physics.


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« Reply #200 on: March 23, 2008, 03:21:59 PM »
No Einstein already got it. 

I find it quite telling that you have no idea what I am talking about even though you took Modern Physics.
The photoelectric effect?  What does that have to do with anything? 
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« Reply #201 on: March 23, 2008, 03:23:43 PM »
Who said anything about the Photoelectric Effect?

Oh, wait, you still have no idea.


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« Reply #202 on: March 23, 2008, 03:24:55 PM »
Who said anything about the Photoelectric Effect?

Oh, wait, you still have no idea.
Einstien got his nobel prize for the photoelectric effect.
He did not get it for GR.   
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« Reply #203 on: March 23, 2008, 03:26:00 PM »
Quote from: Nobelprize.org
"for his services to Theoretical Physics, and especially for his discovery of the law of the photoelectric effect"


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« Reply #204 on: March 23, 2008, 03:32:00 PM »
Quote from: Nobelprize.org
"for his services to Theoretical Physics, and especially for his discovery of the law of the photoelectric effect"
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In 1921 Einstein was awarded the Nobel Prize in Physics, "for his services to Theoretical Physics, and especially for his discovery of the law of the photoelectric effect". This refers to his 1905 paper on the photoelectric effect: "On a Heuristic Viewpoint Concerning the Production and Transformation of Light", which was well supported by the experimental evidence by that time.
Funny you had to look it up.  I didn't have too.   
His nobel prize had nothing to do with GR, thus your statment that Einstein already got the nobel prize for showing a photon emitting a graviton is wrong. 
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« Reply #205 on: March 23, 2008, 03:34:14 PM »
Quote from: Nobelprize.org
"for his services to Theoretical Physics, and especially for his discovery of the law of the photoelectric effect"
Post the whole quote
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In 1921 Einstein was awarded the Nobel Prize in Physics, "for his services to Theoretical Physics, and especially for his discovery of the law of the photoelectric effect". This refers to his 1905 paper on the photoelectric effect: "On a Heuristic Viewpoint Concerning the Production and Transformation of Light", which was well supported by the experimental evidence by that time.
Funny you had to look it up.  I didn't have too.   
His nobel prize had nothing to do with GR, thus your statment that Einstein already got the nobel prize for showing a photon emitting a graviton is wrong. 
You seem to have missed the bolded part. 

So anyway, you realize that you were wrong about the photon, right.


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« Reply #206 on: March 23, 2008, 03:35:34 PM »
Quote from: Nobelprize.org
"for his services to Theoretical Physics, and especially for his discovery of the law of the photoelectric effect"
Post the whole quote
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In 1921 Einstein was awarded the Nobel Prize in Physics, "for his services to Theoretical Physics, and especially for his discovery of the law of the photoelectric effect". This refers to his 1905 paper on the photoelectric effect: "On a Heuristic Viewpoint Concerning the Production and Transformation of Light", which was well supported by the experimental evidence by that time.
Funny you had to look it up.  I didn't have too.   
His nobel prize had nothing to do with GR, thus your statment that Einstein already got the nobel prize for showing a photon emitting a graviton is wrong. 
You seem to have missed the bolded part. 

So anyway, you realize that you were wrong about the photon, right.
You seemed to miss that part.  Photoelectric effect was theoretical physics.  He proved it, thus got the nobel prize.

He never proved gravitons. 
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« Reply #207 on: March 23, 2008, 03:43:26 PM »
I missed no part of it.  He was awarded the prize for his contribution to theoretical physics with an emphasis on the work done on the photoelectric effect.

Now, about the photon not generating a gravitational field, back it up.


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Re: Solar Size
« Reply #208 on: March 23, 2008, 04:23:26 PM »
Quote from: Nobelprize.org
"for his services to Theoretical Physics, and especially for his discovery of the law of the photoelectric effect"
Post the whole quote
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In 1921 Einstein was awarded the Nobel Prize in Physics, "for his services to Theoretical Physics, and especially for his discovery of the law of the photoelectric effect". This refers to his 1905 paper on the photoelectric effect: "On a Heuristic Viewpoint Concerning the Production and Transformation of Light", which was well supported by the experimental evidence by that time.
Funny you had to look it up.  I didn't have too.   
His nobel prize had nothing to do with GR, thus your statment that Einstein already got the nobel prize for showing a photon emitting a graviton is wrong. 
You seem to have missed the bolded part. 

So anyway, you realize that you were wrong about the photon, right.
You seemed to miss that part.  Photoelectric effect was theoretical physics.  He proved it, thus got the nobel prize.

He never proved gravitons. 
You seemed to miss that red part.

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« Reply #209 on: March 23, 2008, 08:23:07 PM »
Quote from: Nobelprize.org
"for his services to Theoretical Physics, and especially for his discovery of the law of the photoelectric effect"
Post the whole quote
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In 1921 Einstein was awarded the Nobel Prize in Physics, "for his services to Theoretical Physics, and especially for his discovery of the law of the photoelectric effect". This refers to his 1905 paper on the photoelectric effect: "On a Heuristic Viewpoint Concerning the Production and Transformation of Light", which was well supported by the experimental evidence by that time.
Funny you had to look it up.  I didn't have too.   
His nobel prize had nothing to do with GR, thus your statment that Einstein already got the nobel prize for showing a photon emitting a graviton is wrong. 
You seem to have missed the bolded part. 

So anyway, you realize that you were wrong about the photon, right.
You seemed to miss that part.  Photoelectric effect was theoretical physics.  He proved it, thus got the nobel prize.

He never proved gravitons. 
You seemed to miss that red part.
This is not a debatable topic, he got the Nobel prize for the photoelectric effect.  He most certainly did not get it for showing photons emit gravitons.   
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