Origin of the conspiracy?

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Ltar

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Origin of the conspiracy?
« on: February 15, 2008, 01:10:24 PM »
I was reading through the FAQ earlier, and I noticed there wasn't very much explanation for the origin, or purpose, of the conspiracy. Thinking about it some, I've generated some ideas of my own, but I'm curious to know what the accepted theory is behind the point of the whole uber-conspiracy idea.

so I ask-

How/why did the conspiracy start and
Why has the conspiracy been continued? What do the involved parties have to lose if we find out the earth is flat?
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Re: Origin of the conspiracy?
« Reply #1 on: February 15, 2008, 04:04:51 PM »
Some theorize that they cover it up so that they can steal funds that would otherwise go to the space budget. So, they spend money on faking, and apparently save enough to make the conspiracy worthwhile.
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Re: Origin of the conspiracy?
« Reply #2 on: February 15, 2008, 04:07:53 PM »
That seems sketchy. This thread isn't getting the attention I was hoping for, so I'll just throw my ideas out and let you all pick them apart like the rotten vultures you are.

Assuming that the earth is flat and spaceflight is impossible, let's back up to the beginning of the cold war.

Russia and the United States, the two new great superpowers following the end of the second world war, both understood that spaceflight would be extremely difficult due to peculiarities of the earth's magnetic and gravitational field stemming from it's flat shape. No conclusive evidence, however, had yet been discovered to show that spaceflight was, in fact, impossible.

Given this, Soviet Russia was the first to give up on its space program and simply lie. In an effort to demonstrate superiority over the United States, the soviets built a specialized array of antennas, designed to bounce focused signals off the earths ionosphere, in order to simulate signals ostensibly sent from the fictional probe Sputnik. The soviet ploy worked, and the united states was understandable frightened to hear that the USSR had accomplished such a monumentally difficult task.

Rather than admit the inadequacy of their space program, however, the United States instead unknowingly took the same course of action as their soviet counterparts, and simply began lying about their space program. The imaginary spacecraft of both sides became increasingly complex directly as each country honed it's counterfeiting skills and technology. When they had gathered sufficient data and expertise, the United States launched the Apollo missions and won the space race.

Since then, other countries have ostensibly gained space technology, but in reality every country that claims to have a space program initiated the lie for power and to demonstrate the proficiency of their counterfeiting experts. If any space-capable organization were to let on to the hoax, it would result only in an enormous loss of credibility and severe retribution from other nations who would also be discredited.

-Sputnik was faked by specialized transmitter antennaes
-The Moon Landings were staged in a studio in Kentucky.
-The space shuttles launch and immediately land at a secret landing strip on a small island off the eastern coast of south america.
-The space shuttle Challenger was intentionally destroyed to generate public sympathy for the peril of space travel.
-The Space Shuttle Columbus was an ICBM that was destroyed by American defensive positions. The administration in power used the ostensibly-orbiting shuttle as a convenient excuse to cover up the attack and prevent mass panic.
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Re: Origin of the conspiracy?
« Reply #3 on: February 15, 2008, 04:13:18 PM »
Actually, I think that was another theory that was thrown out there. There are a few others, but I forget them. There's the benevolent government one, which is rather funny(basically, there's something bad on the other side of the Earth, and the governments are protecting us from knowing about it through RE)...
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Re: Origin of the conspiracy?
« Reply #4 on: February 15, 2008, 04:15:14 PM »
Well screw those arguments, mine makes sense in the context of history.
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Re: Origin of the conspiracy?
« Reply #5 on: February 15, 2008, 06:49:41 PM »
My question is why would early explorers and pre-space age governments start the conspiracy in the first place? I see no motive back in those days.
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Re: Origin of the conspiracy?
« Reply #6 on: February 15, 2008, 06:52:26 PM »
My question is why would early explorers and pre-space age governments start the conspiracy in the first place? I see no motive back in those days.

There wasn't a Conspiracy in the pre-space age. Mankind was just mistaken.

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Re: Origin of the conspiracy?
« Reply #7 on: February 15, 2008, 06:59:19 PM »
And when the shape of the Earth was discovered, an all powerful, freaking large, conspiracy burst out of nowhere for greedy purposes yet to be known. Ever hear of a gold rush? Every discovery of gold was leaked out massively almost instantaneously. Sociologically speaking, exciting news can't be kept a secret for self benefit. It just doesn't happen.
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Re: Origin of the conspiracy?
« Reply #8 on: February 15, 2008, 07:01:21 PM »
There wasn't a Conspiracy in the pre-space age. Mankind was just mistaken.

And if you go back even farther, you'll find a time when the general populace understood the truth of a flat earth.

And when the shape of the Earth was discovered, an all powerful, freaking large, conspiracy burst out of nowhere for greedy purposes yet to be known. Ever hear of a gold rush? Every discovery of gold was leaked out massively almost instantaneously. Sociologically speaking, exciting news can't be kept a secret for self benefit. It just doesn't happen.

No, a freakin' large, all powerful conspiracy slowly developed out of the space programs of the USA and USSR. I explained this in the third post of this thread.
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Re: Origin of the conspiracy?
« Reply #9 on: February 15, 2008, 07:04:42 PM »
No, a freakin' large, all powerful conspiracy slowly developed out of the space programs of the USA and USSR. I explained this in the third post of this thread.
Sorry, I have a tendency to not read your stuff as I know you aren't serious and you aren't entertaining. (no offense)  :P

And all the forms of evidence for a Round Earth that were 'planted' or conceived by the conspiracy before the spaceage or separate from the spaceage?
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Re: Origin of the conspiracy?
« Reply #10 on: February 15, 2008, 07:13:55 PM »
no worries, although I must ask specifically what evidence you're referring to.

Eratosthenes famous drinking well observations are easily explained by a spotlight sun shining on the earth at different angles.
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Re: Origin of the conspiracy?
« Reply #11 on: February 15, 2008, 07:24:49 PM »
The first humans to reach the south pole was in 1911. If they found this "Icewall" why would they hide it? There is no motive. 
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Re: Origin of the conspiracy?
« Reply #12 on: February 15, 2008, 07:37:35 PM »
That story was fabricated in the conspiracy era, along with all the documents to support it.
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Re: Origin of the conspiracy?
« Reply #13 on: February 19, 2008, 12:42:20 AM »
That seems sketchy. This thread isn't getting the attention I was hoping for, so I'll just throw my ideas out and let you all pick them apart like the rotten vultures you are.

Assuming that the earth is flat and spaceflight is impossible, let's back up to the beginning of the cold war.

Russia and the United States, the two new great superpowers following the end of the second world war, both understood that spaceflight would be extremely difficult due to peculiarities of the earth's magnetic and gravitational field stemming from it's flat shape. No conclusive evidence, however, had yet been discovered to show that spaceflight was, in fact, impossible.

Given this, Soviet Russia was the first to give up on its space program and simply lie. In an effort to demonstrate superiority over the United States, the soviets built a specialized array of antennas, designed to bounce focused signals off the earths ionosphere, in order to simulate signals ostensibly sent from the fictional probe Sputnik. The soviet ploy worked, and the united states was understandable frightened to hear that the USSR had accomplished such a monumentally difficult task.

Rather than admit the inadequacy of their space program, however, the United States instead unknowingly took the same course of action as their soviet counterparts, and simply began lying about their space program. The imaginary spacecraft of both sides became increasingly complex directly as each country honed it's counterfeiting skills and technology. When they had gathered sufficient data and expertise, the United States launched the Apollo missions and won the space race.

Since then, other countries have ostensibly gained space technology, but in reality every country that claims to have a space program initiated the lie for power and to demonstrate the proficiency of their counterfeiting experts. If any space-capable organization were to let on to the hoax, it would result only in an enormous loss of credibility and severe retribution from other nations who would also be discredited.

-Sputnik was faked by specialized transmitter antennaes
-The Moon Landings were staged in a studio in Kentucky.
-The space shuttles launch and immediately land at a secret landing strip on a small island off the eastern coast of south america.
-The space shuttle Challenger was intentionally destroyed to generate public sympathy for the peril of space travel.
-The Space Shuttle Columbus was an ICBM that was destroyed by American defensive positions. The administration in power used the ostensibly-orbiting shuttle as a convenient excuse to cover up the attack and prevent mass panic.

China has been a Superpower for over 2k years. That destroys everything said after you left it out.
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Re: Origin of the conspiracy?
« Reply #14 on: February 19, 2008, 02:23:33 AM »
My question is why would early explorers and pre-space age governments start the conspiracy in the first place? I see no motive back in those days.

There wasn't a Conspiracy in the pre-space age. Mankind was just mistaken.

Yes, mistaken by all the evidence. Which you now say was not faked by a conspiracy.
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Re: Origin of the conspiracy?
« Reply #15 on: February 19, 2008, 03:10:22 AM »
The conspiracy was started by Semites (Egyptians) who sought to control the world by convincing the worlds population that the future can be seen in the movements of the heavenly bodies. The Semites then destroyed the sun, moon and stars with primitive rockets powered by the rapid release of gases created by fermenting yeast. The Semites then created artificial lighter then air satellites that we know as the current sun, moon and stars. The movements of these satellites are controlled by a secret organization of Semites (mostly Jews and some Egyptians) that use them to influence society, culture, and world markets through the psychological effects of horoscopes.

The ultimate goal of the conspiracy is clear: to bring the entire world under the control of the Jew. Here are some of their methods:

  • Alcoholism, Annihilation of the privileges of the non-Jewish aristocracy, among other topics.
  • The propagation of ideas, such as Darwinism, Marxism, Nietzsche-ism, Liberalism, Socialism, Communism, Anarchism, and Utopianism, with the task of undermining established forms of order.
  • Materialism
  • World government
  • World wars
  • Staging catastrophes against one's own people, then claiming a moral high ground for leverage
  • Universal suffrage
  • Curtailment of civil liberties with the excuse of defeating the enemies of peace
  • Creating the impression of the existence of freedom of press, freedom of speech, human rights and democracy, all of which are subsequently undermined and become mere illusions or deceptive smokescreens behind which actual oppression lies
  • Distractions
  • Pornographic literature
  • The destruction of Christianity, Islam and other religions and cultures, followed by a transitional stage of atheism, followed finally by the hegemony of Judaism
  • Brainwashing
  • Economic depressions
  • Undermining financial systems by foreign loans, creating national bankruptcy, destroying Money Markets and replacing them with government credit institutions
  • Justification of previous acts of evil and expectation of a great new society
  • Reduction of the manufacture of articles of luxury, destruction of large manufacturers, prohibition of alcohol and hashish, unleashing forces of violence under the mask of principles of freedom, only to have the 'King of the Jews' demolish those very forces to make him appear a saviour
  • Training of the king, direct heirs, irreproachability of exterior morality of the King of the Jews.

Learn more:
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Re: Origin of the conspiracy?
« Reply #16 on: February 19, 2008, 03:44:26 AM »
The conspiracy was started by Semites (Egyptians) who sought to control the world by convincing the worlds population that the future can be seen in the movements of the heavenly bodies. The Semites then destroyed the sun, moon and stars with primitive rockets powered by the rapid release of gases created by fermenting yeast. The Semites then created artificial lighter then air satellites that we know as the current sun, moon and stars. The movements of these satellites are controlled by a secret organization of Semites (mostly Jews and some Egyptians) that use them to influence society, culture, and world markets through the psychological effects of horoscopes.

The ultimate goal of the conspiracy is clear: to bring the entire world under the control of the Jew.
I'm guessing Hitler saw through their evil plans.
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Re: Origin of the conspiracy?
« Reply #17 on: February 19, 2008, 03:58:09 AM »
Correct, and the Jews are actually reptilians.

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Re: Origin of the conspiracy?
« Reply #18 on: February 19, 2008, 04:39:55 AM »
Correct, and the Jews are actually reptilians.
Originally from the planet Kretor in the Bedular sector. Their ultimate plan is to sell the human race and their souls to Rexacor, the evil lord emperor of the Greebian imperial state.
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Re: Origin of the conspiracy?
« Reply #19 on: February 19, 2008, 05:58:06 AM »
Rexacor is actually Satan in disguise (he has a lot of weird fetishes). He is currently controlling the Earth with the evil one day one God. EARTH HAS 4 CORNER SIMULTANEOUS 4-DAY TIME CUBE WITHIN SINGLE ROTATION.

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Re: Origin of the conspiracy?
« Reply #20 on: February 19, 2008, 06:06:02 AM »
I'm pretty sure Columbus wasn't an ICBM.  Where the fuck did you get that? 
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Re: Origin of the conspiracy?
« Reply #21 on: February 19, 2008, 09:10:38 AM »
Rexacor is actually Satan in disguise (he has a lot of weird fetishes). He is currently controlling the Earth with the evil one day one God. EARTH HAS 4 CORNER SIMULTANEOUS 4-DAY TIME CUBE WITHIN SINGLE ROTATION.
You've got it backwards Friend, Satan is simply one of Rexcor's alter egos. In fact, he acts as the devil on many worlds. His  favorite is Ardra.
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Re: Origin of the conspiracy?
« Reply #22 on: February 19, 2008, 09:43:21 AM »
I'm pretty sure Columbus wasn't an ICBM.  Where the fuck did you get that? 

This is the only post I read in this thread.  And I lolled everywhere.

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Re: Origin of the conspiracy?
« Reply #23 on: February 20, 2008, 11:16:16 AM »
I'm pretty sure Columbus wasn't an ICBM.  Where the fuck did you get that? 

This is the only post I read in this thread.  And I lolled everywhere.

Oh, but Columbus was an ICBM. But ICBMs don't work. Because the Earth is flat.
Since Columbus never left the Earth's atmosphere, the Earth must be flat.
Proof.
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Re: Origin of the conspiracy?
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Re: Origin of the conspiracy?
« Reply #25 on: February 20, 2008, 11:28:05 AM »
;( Sorry. But the conspiracy must have preceded the space race.
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