Clarification on Gravity

Quote from: Josef on August 06, 2008, 12:53:11 AM

Thanks divito.
So its dark energy hu?
That leads to: where is this dark energy located? And, is that energy in it self moving or constantly increasing? (to account for the constantly added and even force?

It's located in "empty" space. It has negative pressure to explain the acceleration that has been observed.

I guessed that the dark energy (or dark matter?) was located in space hehe. But I wondered where in space. It surely has to be right below us, because thats the way we are being pushed right?
So, what keeps the disc from not being pulled unevenly? And eventually being completly tilted sideways? Is the disc perfectly balanced? Maybe have I missed something. I guess you will bring up the speed->warp of space?

This simple information is as per Wikipedia.

How can you trust Wikipedia? Wikipedia says the earth is round.

FE Dark Energy is no different than RE Dark Energy. It accelerates everything in the universe, just as it accelerates the expansion of the universe in RE.

I want to clarify. You do believe in dark energy and dark matter. And you believe that this have inverted gravity. That it pushes instead of pull?

Quote from: Josef on August 06, 2008, 12:53:11 AM

Thanks divito.
So its dark energy hu?
That leads to: where is this dark energy located? And, is that energy in it self moving or constantly increasing? (to account for the constantly added and even force?

It's located in "empty" space. It has negative pressure to explain the acceleration that has been observed. This simple information is as per Wikipedia.

FE Dark Energy is no different than RE Dark Energy. It accelerates everything in the universe, just as it accelerates the expansion of the universe in RE.

According to sokarul's logic, if I lifted a plate of food, the food should be floating above the plate. This is not the case in either scenario.

Space expanding at an accelerated rate is different than a flat earth accelerating in space.  Not to mention what I bolded, why would the UA accelerate the earth and not accelerate the plate in the FET? 

I guessed that the dark energy (or dark matter?) was located in space hehe. But I wondered where in space. It surely has to be right below us, because thats the way we are being pushed right?

It's in all empty space. So, beside us, beneath, above. This is why things "above" us are also accelerating; some faster and some slower.

So, what keeps the disc from not being pulled unevenly?

Pulled?

Imagine the Big Bang initiating an explosion of matter, this big chunk of rock (Earth) being shot straight upwards. At the initial spot of the explosion there is also acceleration to the sides and below, but everything that we see and experience is dealt with for the most part, is going in the same direction as us.

How can you trust Wikipedia? Wikipedia says the earth is round.

I never said I trusted Wikipedia.

I want to clarify. You do believe in dark energy and dark matter. And you believe that this have inverted gravity. That it pushes instead of pull?

I don't believe in DE or DM, but I can use their properties to explain things. It's not really inverted gravitation. Things still have gravitation and such, but the acceleration in space is still apparent despite that.

Not to mention what I bolded, why would the UA accelerate the earth and not accelerate the plate in the FET? 

My hand represents the UA/Dark Energy; the plate is the Earth; the food is everything on Earth. Again, your logic somehow has the food floating.

My hand represents the UA/Dark Energy; the plate is the Earth; the food is everything on Earth. Again, your logic somehow has the food floating.

So you somehow have evidence of where dark energy is and is not present.  Tipical you.

Well it's not in the Earth's atmosphere. LOL

Well it's not in the Earth's atmosphere. LOL

Just to let you know, the distance between your monitor and your face is expanding at an accelerated rate. 

Quote from: Josef on August 06, 2008, 07:09:52 AM

I guessed that the dark energy (or dark matter?) was located in space hehe. But I wondered where in space. It surely has to be right below us, because thats the way we are being pushed right?

It's in all empty space. So, beside us, beneath, above. This is why things "above" us are also accelerating; some faster and some slower.

Fair enough.

Quote from: Josef on August 06, 2008, 07:09:52 AM

So, what keeps the disc from not being pulled unevenly?

Pulled?

Imagine the Big Bang initiating an explosion of matter, this big chunk of rock (Earth) being shot straight upwards. At the initial spot of the explosion there is also acceleration to the sides and below, but everything that we see and experience is dealt with for the most part, is going in the same direction as us.

I mean pushed. Wrong word, english isnt my mother-tonge.
So big bang started with a really big piece of rock? I chunk of that became the earth? Just kidding..
Being serious: The disc being "shot-away" in a constant speed trough space, that I understand. And it even doesnt matter because that speed wouldnt be noticable here on earth because it would be constant.
My question remains, for acceleration, a force need to be applied. How can this force be applied perfectly evenly to the disc, so its allways is being pushed in the exact right direction? And the disc not being pushed more or less in any part?

Quote from: Josef on August 06, 2008, 07:09:52 AM

I want to clarify. You do believe in dark energy and dark matter. And you believe that this have inverted gravity. That it pushes instead of pull?

I don't believe in DE or DM, but I can use their properties to explain things. It's not really inverted gravitation. Things still have gravitation and such, but the acceleration in space is still apparent despite that.

Thank you. Is this the viewpoint of all or most of the FE'ers?

How can this force be applied perfectly evenly to the disc, so its allways is being pushed in the exact right direction? And the disc not being pushed more or less in any part?

The same reason that a baseball hit into space would continue to travel in the same direction with as even a force as it left Earth with.

Thank you. Is this the viewpoint of all or most of the FE'ers?

Not really sure. I'm not an FEer and not everyone has stated their beliefs in regards to DE and such, so I can't really say.

Quote from: Josef on August 06, 2008, 08:14:14 AM

How can this force be applied perfectly evenly to the disc, so its allways is being pushed in the exact right direction? And the disc not being pushed more or less in any part?

The same reason that a baseball hit into space would continue to travel in the same direction with as even a force as it left Earth with.

Yes, but the baseball isn't accelerating.

Quote from: Josef on August 06, 2008, 08:14:14 AM

Thank you. Is this the viewpoint of all or most of the FE'ers?

Not really sure. I'm not an FEer and not everyone has stated their beliefs in regards to DE and such, so I can't really say.

I really thought you where an FE'er. 
So what's your agenda?

In which case every last one of you who believes this is painfully ignorant. Your loss. The rest of the world will travel in a straight line relative to the Equator and arrive back where they started, while you'll fly off into the edges of space, assuming you believe space itself to be flat as well. Bunch of fucking idiots.

Please define "straight line" in your statement, because it doesn't seem to make any sense.

Yes, but the baseball isn't accelerating.

For the purposes of the hypothetical, it is. It was it at an accelerating rate into space, and Dark Energy simply continues to fuel its acceleration along the exact same path it was on. Still straight, and being a vacuum, no other interference.

I really thought you where an FE'er. 
So what's your agenda?

Don't have much of an agenda, perhaps to show people that logically and based on simple probability, the aspect of a flat Earth is actually possible. That and actual knowledge of whether the Earth is actually spherical can never truly be known 100%.

Don't have much of an agenda, perhaps to show people that logically and based on simple probability, the aspect of a flat Earth is actually possible. That and actual knowledge of whether the Earth is actually spherical can never truly be known 100%.

Funny you post that in a thread about gravity and gravitation. 
"That and actual knowledge of whether the Earth is actually spherical can never truly be known 100%.
"
Congrats, you just joined dogplatter on the top 5 most stupid ideas list. 

My post contained no idea. Are you really that bad at reading?

My post contained no idea. Are you really that bad at reading?

Your idea is in the quotation marks. 

Quote from: divito the truthist on August 07, 2008, 11:14:55 AM

My post contained no idea. Are you really that bad at reading?

Your idea is in the quotation marks. 

I see only one quotation mark.

learn2quote

I'll assume that he's referring to this:

"That and actual knowledge of whether the Earth is actually spherical can never truly be known 100%."

But like I said, my post contains no idea.

To be finicky, nothing can ever be completly certain..

Exactly.

Are you sure?

 

Exactly.

Wrong, especially when it applies to the shape of the earth. 

Quote from: divito the truthist on August 08, 2008, 05:15:43 AM

Exactly.

Wrong, especially when it applies to the shape of the earth. 

Is your supply of idiocy endless, or just exceptionally large?

Quote from: sokarul on August 08, 2008, 06:14:42 AM

Quote from: divito the truthist on August 08, 2008, 05:15:43 AM

Exactly.

Wrong, especially when it applies to the shape of the earth. 

Is your supply of idiocy endless, or just exceptionally large?

The shape of the earth is known. That’s why we know it’s not a perfect sphere. 
My computer has a computer mouse. I know that for 100 percent. I am currently in New Mexico.  I know that for 100 percent.

Is your supply of idiocy endless, or just exceptionally large?

As large as gravity's supply.

Quote from: Robosteve on August 08, 2008, 06:18:13 AM

Is your supply of idiocy endless, or just exceptionally large?

As large as gravity's supply.

You are such a tool.  Can't even respond.  So I don't know I'm in New Mexico? 

You are such a tool.  Can't even respond.  So I don't know I'm in New Mexico? 

It's likely that you're in New Mexico; not known. Everything is probability.

Quote from: sokarul on August 08, 2008, 06:27:14 AM

You are such a tool.  Can't even respond.  So I don't know I'm in New Mexico? 

It's likely that you're in New Mexico; not known. Everything is probability.

Nope.

Quote from: divito the truthist on August 08, 2008, 06:37:19 AM

Quote from: sokarul on August 08, 2008, 06:27:14 AM

You are such a tool.  Can't even respond.  So I don't know I'm in New Mexico? 

It's likely that you're in New Mexico; not known. Everything is probability.

Nope.

Yes.

Quote from: sokarul on August 08, 2008, 06:38:11 AM

Quote from: divito the truthist on August 08, 2008, 06:37:19 AM

Quote from: sokarul on August 08, 2008, 06:27:14 AM

You are such a tool.  Can't even respond.  So I don't know I'm in New Mexico? 

It's likely that you're in New Mexico; not known. Everything is probability.

Nope.

Yes.

Ok, but how am I contolling my computer mouse icon if I'm not using a computer mouse?