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Re: The all-new conspiracy theory!
« Reply #180 on: January 22, 2008, 03:17:42 PM »
Adding extra fuel won't help times. If they lie about times, how do people pick others up from the airport? You didn't answer the point about Mach 3. You, in essence, are postulating superfast, Mach 3+ planes. That's not disputed, it's what you postulate.

I'm not essentially postulating anything except exactly what I say.

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All I'm saying is that the only sources you've actually cited in this argument have been member groups of a Satanic Round-Earth cult hell-bent on earning money at the expense of the entire population of Earth.

About resources, its quite simple, mastery of economics. They have oil right now, which they milk us for. If they develop those now, the price of oil will have to drop. If, however, they merely wait for Arabian oil to deplete, then they charge even more for it later. Maximize profits, minimize work. You seem to equate believing in a round earth with thinking corporations and governments are there for us. No, I think that if they possibly could pull this off, they would, but...they can't. It's too difficult, and they already have another, easier way to milk us for money...oil.

Who says it's oil? There's plenty of other useful stuff there. I don't mean to be rude, and so far your contributions have been admirable, but this whole oil conspiracy thing seems incredibly contrived. Why would the Con bother (let's for a second assume that the US military/coalition forces are at least vaguely interchangeable with some facet of the Conspiracy) sinking vast amounts of resources into expensive war over oil when they could get it from Antarctica (assuming it even is oil they're stockpiling over there). Sure, they get to charge a danger premium, and speculation based on such events skyrockets the price, but that's nothing compared to the resources it takes to do all the ridiculous stuff they're doing now. It'd be cheaper to drill Antarctic oil - and more profitable... (unless basically all pollutive world industry had a vested interest in the world not discovery that they would eventually cause the whole atmolayer to leak south and disappear forever).
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Re: The all-new conspiracy theory!
« Reply #181 on: January 22, 2008, 03:20:31 PM »
By the way, I'm interested as to your reaction to my accusation that most international airlines are involved in a satanic cult. You seem to have rather skirted the issue and haven't yet openly denied it! Are you really comfortable just trusting the say-so of devil-worshipping greedmongers?
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« Reply #182 on: January 22, 2008, 03:21:29 PM »
Look, its not conspiracy. I don't believe in conspiracy. It's just each company regarding its own interests. And btw, it looks contrived because...it is. I'm just pulling theories out of my rear end. I don't know anything, just throwing possibilities out the window.

About the main point...if you're not postulating Mach 3 planes, and you're not postulating lying about times...what are you postulating? It seems like (from my POV), you're doing a little dance between the two, not willing to put down either of them as your theory.
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« Reply #183 on: January 22, 2008, 03:25:09 PM »
By the way, I'm interested as to your reaction to my accusation that most international airlines are involved in a satanic cult. You seem to have rather skirted the issue and haven't yet openly denied it! Are you really comfortable just trusting the say-so of devil-worshipping greedmongers?

Actually, I didn't really have much to say. I honestly am shocked at you writing this. I kinda hoped you would let it drop, because...TBH...I find it the stupidest thing you have said on this forum. Devil worshipping? Anagrams? OK, please. So, said devil worshippers decided to reveal their purpose in their name? If I were going to start a club like that, I wouldn't make my name a stupid anagram. Trust me, you can make hilarious anagrams on presidential candidates names and so on.

You didn't give me a location of that picture, and god knows that a single pose of that picture can be taken so far out of context. Heck, that picture could have been of him joking about a satanic fork, for all I know. You're getting paranoid.

EDIT: I found this out about the picture:

Wolfgang Mayrhuber, newly appointed CEO of German airline Lufthansa AG, raises a steering unit of an aircraft after taking the position from Juergen Weber during Lufthansa's annual shareholders meeting in Cologne, on Wednesday. Outgoing CEO Weber said on Wednesday Europe's third largest passenger airline had identified ways to generate an additional one billion euros ($ 1.18 billion) in cash flow by the end of 2004. 1— Reuters

I can confirm that that looks like a steering unit. Mkay?
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« Reply #184 on: January 22, 2008, 03:45:01 PM »
Look, its not conspiracy. I don't believe in conspiracy. It's just each company regarding its own interests. And btw, it looks contrived because...it is. I'm just pulling theories out of my rear end. I don't know anything, just throwing possibilities out the window.

The Conspiracy is just each company regarding its own interests. That's all the Conspiracy does.

About the main point...if you're not postulating Mach 3 planes, and you're not postulating lying about times...what are you postulating? It seems like (from my POV), you're doing a little dance between the two, not willing to put down either of them as your theory.

I wasn't postulating anything, just saying I don't trust your sources. I'm going to go out on a limb here and post a gut postulation, so forgive me if this ends up being completely wrong - I have a feeling the trickery might be derived from time-zones. You believe that the polar projection distorts the "true" distances between continents in the Southern Hemiplane. Necessarily, accepted time zones distort too. It's a grand trickery, but when you think about it, it seems to make sense. DISCLAIMER: GUT REACTION. NOT CLAIMING THIS AS FACT.

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Actually, I didn't really have much to say. I honestly am shocked at you writing this. I kinda hoped you would let it drop, because...TBH...I find it the stupidest thing you have said on this forum. Devil worshipping? Anagrams? OK, please.

The evidence is there. I've only scraped the surface, a little more research and I'm sure I can dig up more than what I've presented in the thread.

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So, said devil worshippers decided to reveal their purpose in their name? If I were going to start a club like that, I wouldn't make my name a stupid anagram. Trust me, you can make hilarious anagrams on presidential candidates names and so on.

Ever heard of a double-bluff? "Oh, they can't be satanic cult, no satanic cult would reveal its nature in an anagram of its name". That's precisely what they want us to think.

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You didn't give me a location of that picture, and god knows that a single pose of that picture can be taken so far out of context. Heck, that picture could have been of him joking about a satanic fork, for all I know. You're getting paranoid.

He doesn't look like he's joking around to me. His mirth is sinister and menacing, not jovial and light-hearted. Obviously this particular point is completely a matter of opinion, so we probably won't get anywhere on it.
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Re: The all-new conspiracy theory!
« Reply #185 on: January 22, 2008, 03:47:40 PM »
EDIT: I found this out about the picture:

Wolfgang Mayrhuber, newly appointed CEO of German airline Lufthansa AG, raises a steering unit of an aircraft after taking the position from Juergen Weber during Lufthansa's annual shareholders meeting in Cologne, on Wednesday. Outgoing CEO Weber said on Wednesday Europe's third largest passenger airline had identified ways to generate an additional one billion euros ($ 1.18 billion) in cash flow by the end of 2004. 1— Reuters

I can confirm that that looks like a steering unit. Mkay?

The real question, then, is why are the steering units of their aeroplanes designed to mirror satanic symbols?

Actually, we could take the coincidence line, but then hey, a pitchfork is just a pitchfork, right? In the same way that a steering unit is just a steering unit? It's not what it is that counts, it's what it represents.
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Re: The all-new conspiracy theory!
« Reply #186 on: January 22, 2008, 03:50:05 PM »
Look, its not conspiracy. I don't believe in conspiracy. It's just each company regarding its own interests. And btw, it looks contrived because...it is. I'm just pulling theories out of my rear end. I don't know anything, just throwing possibilities out the window.

The Conspiracy is just each company regarding its own interests. That's all the Conspiracy does.

About the main point...if you're not postulating Mach 3 planes, and you're not postulating lying about times...what are you postulating? It seems like (from my POV), you're doing a little dance between the two, not willing to put down either of them as your theory.

I wasn't postulating anything, just saying I don't trust your sources. I'm going to go out on a limb here and post a gut postulation, so forgive me if this ends up being completely wrong - I have a feeling the trickery might be derived from time-zones. You believe that the polar projection distorts the "true" distances between continents in the Southern Hemiplane. Necessarily, accepted time zones distort too. It's a grand trickery, but when you think about it, it seems to make sense. DISCLAIMER: GUT REACTION. NOT CLAIMING THIS AS FACT.

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Actually, I didn't really have much to say. I honestly am shocked at you writing this. I kinda hoped you would let it drop, because...TBH...I find it the stupidest thing you have said on this forum. Devil worshipping? Anagrams? OK, please.

The evidence is there. I've only scraped the surface, a little more research and I'm sure I can dig up more than what I've presented in the thread.

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So, said devil worshippers decided to reveal their purpose in their name? If I were going to start a club like that, I wouldn't make my name a stupid anagram. Trust me, you can make hilarious anagrams on presidential candidates names and so on.

Ever heard of a double-bluff? "Oh, they can't be satanic cult, no satanic cult would reveal its nature in an anagram of its name". That's precisely what they want us to think.

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You didn't give me a location of that picture, and god knows that a single pose of that picture can be taken so far out of context. Heck, that picture could have been of him joking about a satanic fork, for all I know. You're getting paranoid.

He doesn't look like he's joking around to me. His mirth is sinister and menacing, not jovial and light-hearted. Obviously this particular point is completely a matter of opinion, so we probably won't get anywhere on it.

1. OK

2 Trickery on a round trip flight would be hard. Not to mention that time zones would still be necessary on a FE, due to sunlight. I know you said you were justing throwing things, but wanted to make sure that was clear.

3+4. Double blinds work on single people. Why fool only half the populace, when you can not put an anagram, and make nobody think you are? I still wish you'd drop this, because nobody in the world will take you seriously unless they're wearing white if you keep on with that. And I also pointed out the real origin of that picture.
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Re: The all-new conspiracy theory!
« Reply #187 on: January 22, 2008, 03:51:58 PM »
EDIT: I found this out about the picture:

Wolfgang Mayrhuber, newly appointed CEO of German airline Lufthansa AG, raises a steering unit of an aircraft after taking the position from Juergen Weber during Lufthansa's annual shareholders meeting in Cologne, on Wednesday. Outgoing CEO Weber said on Wednesday Europe's third largest passenger airline had identified ways to generate an additional one billion euros ($ 1.18 billion) in cash flow by the end of 2004. 1— Reuters

I can confirm that that looks like a steering unit. Mkay?

The real question, then, is why are the steering units of their aeroplanes designed to mirror satanic symbols?

Actually, we could take the coincidence line, but then hey, a pitchfork is just a pitchfork, right? In the same way that a steering unit is just a steering unit? It's not what it is that counts, it's what it represents.

OK, now you're just digging your own metaphorical grave here. OK, not only their airplanes, but every plane, down to the lowly Cessna, has steering shaped like that. It's not coincidence, its the fact that that design is easy to work with, relatively light, and allows several means of communication to the craft.
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« Reply #188 on: January 22, 2008, 03:52:53 PM »
that reminds me of an online comic, "under the lime tree":
the hero stuns a peace protester by telling her the hippie "peace" symbol looks like the unit insignia of Hitler's third panzer division!

oh, and before Hitler took it, a swastica used to be a symbol of good luck!

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Re: The all-new conspiracy theory!
« Reply #189 on: January 22, 2008, 05:46:44 PM »
that reminds me of an online comic, "under the lime tree":
the hero stuns a peace protester by telling her the hippie "peace" symbol looks like the unit insignia of Hitler's third panzer division!

oh, and before Hitler took it, a swastica used to be a symbol of good luck!
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« Reply #190 on: January 22, 2008, 06:23:02 PM »
about what? that you, personally, don't like it when i say "this reminds me"? well, that's YOUR tough luck!

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Re: The all-new conspiracy theory!
« Reply #191 on: January 22, 2008, 06:36:34 PM »
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By the way, I'm interested as to your reaction to my accusation that most international airlines are involved in a satanic cult. You seem to have rather skirted the issue and haven't yet openly denied it! Are you really comfortable just trusting the say-so of devil-worshipping greedmongers?

Wow. Do you even realize how much respect you lost for that? Airlines involved in satanic plots? These are the kinds of insane claims that prove just how weak your theory is, that you have to support it with laughable accusations.
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Ever heard of a double-bluff? "Oh, they can't be satanic cult, no satanic cult would reveal its nature in an anagram of its name". That's precisely what they want us to think.

AHAHA! You sound like some guy whose seen bigfoot. Honestly, don't pull unprovable claims from the back of your head. It only strengthens the RE side.

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The real question, then, is why are the steering units of their aeroplanes designed to mirror satanic symbols?

Actually, we could take the coincidence line, but then hey, a pitchfork is just a pitchfork, right? In the same way that a steering unit is just a steering unit? It's not what it is that counts, it's what it represents.

Making the pitchfork a symbol of Satan was just a Christian smear campaign against Neptune and his trident. Same goes for the horns, mimicking the image of Pan.


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Re: The all-new conspiracy theory!
« Reply #192 on: January 22, 2008, 06:45:33 PM »
Erm...Germanicus? I agree with alot of your statements, but couldn't you edit them into your first post rather than triple posting?  ;)

Anyway, I'm pretty much satisfied with this thread, as it showed me the response of each FE'er except bullhorn, who hasn't really been around, and Raa, whom I need only to imagine to correctly guess what he would say. I was not sure what Dogplatter, Tom(well, OK, maybe I did, but its entertaining), and Username would say.
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« Reply #193 on: January 22, 2008, 07:10:37 PM »
about what? that you, personally, don't like it when i say "this reminds me"? well, that's YOUR tough luck!
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« Reply #194 on: January 22, 2008, 07:14:34 PM »
^^^ I knew that was coming :D

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« Reply #195 on: January 23, 2008, 09:21:14 PM »
Don't ban him, we need him for entertainment
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« Reply #196 on: January 31, 2008, 11:59:58 AM »
I've never said that the purpose of the Conspiracy was to cover up the shape of the earth. Why would anyone want to cover up the shape of the earth? That's stupid.
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« Reply #197 on: January 31, 2008, 12:01:22 PM »
Aye, what on Earth...Tom musta been undergoing a code update...
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« Reply #198 on: January 31, 2008, 12:12:42 PM »
Sound's like he's got a virus or something... the conspiracy got him! He should have been running linux instead.
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« Reply #199 on: January 31, 2008, 12:38:36 PM »
Yep. He hasn't even got the power to respond to this thread. One would think it would trigger an emergency response from Tom...
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« Reply #200 on: January 31, 2008, 01:14:38 PM »
Indeed. But he said the conspiracy doesn't want to conceal the shape of the Earth.
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« Reply #201 on: January 31, 2008, 09:38:39 PM »
Oh no, I'm not saying the flights don't arrive in time. The flight proprieters blatantly fly faster to make up the difference, earn their filthy Conspiracy cash and appease their dark lord.

Faster? At what speeds? You have a mechanical/materials engineering degree. The ability of a commercial airliner (built to specifications) to obtain speeds in excess of 800+mph (except Concord wich is not in operation) without a catastrophic failure do not exist. Talk to an airplane mechanic/engineer lately?

And the ships? Must be some strong currents in the oceans to get them to port on time.

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« Reply #202 on: January 31, 2008, 11:17:36 PM »
You're all a bunch of meanies. Leave Tom alone!
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« Reply #203 on: January 31, 2008, 11:22:03 PM »
This coming from the person who's sig... ;D

At any rate, speed doesn't help you there. I'm pretty sure breaking Mach 1.0 on a 747 would not be good for said 747's health...
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« Reply #204 on: January 31, 2008, 11:23:48 PM »
But speed always helps

I mean, ahem, quit being mean or I'll kick your arse!
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« Reply #205 on: January 31, 2008, 11:28:04 PM »
I'm pretty sure breaking Mach 1.0 on a 747 would not be good for said 747's health...
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« Reply #206 on: January 31, 2008, 11:29:02 PM »
Oh so thats what you meant by speed

Well I shall unspeedily go to class now, buh bye
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« Reply #207 on: February 01, 2008, 02:50:47 AM »
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Oh, OK, so every flight in the South of the equator takes twice as long, without anyone noticing? Nice Tom, nice. The map.

They notice. Why wouldn't they?

I've personally been on international flights which have been delayed by hours. Everyone on my flight certainly noticed that.

Once again, you have shown no data to demonstrate otherwise, so why should we believe you?

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Tom-Droid, you are clearly avoiding the argument you are choosing to engage in, by simply skirting the bounds of human decency. A layover WOULD be noticed by the passengers, but that has absolutely no bearing on what you are being accused of pulling here.

You fail. Again.
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« Reply #208 on: February 01, 2008, 02:48:55 PM »
Faster? At what speeds? You have a mechanical/materials engineering degree. The ability of a commercial airliner (built to specifications) to obtain speeds in excess of 800+mph (except Concord wich is not in operation) without a catastrophic failure do not exist. Talk to an airplane mechanic/engineer lately?

Actually, I don't have an engineering degree.

However, in lieu of TheEngineer's presence in this thread (who I'm sure you confused me with), I'd like to address a key concern I have with your response. From what source do you derive your assertions about the capabilities of commercial airliners besides the proprieters of those same airliners?

And the ships? Must be some strong currents in the oceans to get them to port on time.

Well, stick some falsifiable evidence regarding this point into the thread and maybe you'll be on to something.
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Re: The all-new conspiracy theory!
« Reply #209 on: February 13, 2008, 11:41:03 PM »
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And the ships? Must be some strong currents in the oceans to get them to port on time.

Well, stick some falsifiable evidence regarding this point into the thread and maybe you'll be on to something.

Better idea. Stick some water on a spinning plate and watch.

Yep, it gets moving pretty fast.
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Blame not on malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.
wow you are officially narcberry stupid.