Correction for FAQ

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Correction for FAQ
« on: January 13, 2008, 06:02:58 PM »
"Q: "If the Earth was indeed a flat disc, wouldn't the whole planet crunch up into itself and eventually transform into a ball?"

A1: If the Earth generated a gravitational field, yes, it would eventually happen, after a billion years maybe. FE assumes that the Earth does not generate a gravitational field.  What we know as 'gravity' is provided by the acceleration of the earth."

If the earth is accelerating, it is creating a gravitation field, which is why we are standing here right now, according to FE.
More precisely, the earth is warping space-time in a way that all of us are moving along the warps, as if going down a slide. 
source: "The use of the term acceleration in conjunction with gravity arises from Einstein's principle of equivalence, which was a cornerstone in the development of the general theory of relativity. This principle states that the force produced by a gravitational field is qualitatively the same (in terms of how it affects physical objects, time, and space) as the force produced when a reference frame accelerates." http://whatis.techtarget.com/definition/0,,sid9_gci804378,00.html

So, if the Earth is 4 billion years old, then wouldn't it have become a sphere?
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Re: Correction for FAQ
« Reply #1 on: January 13, 2008, 06:06:43 PM »
The gravitational field is unidirectional.  How would this form a sphere?


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Re: Correction for FAQ
« Reply #2 on: January 13, 2008, 06:12:43 PM »
The gravitational field is unidirectional.  How would this form a sphere?
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How is gravity unidirectional if it is not real?

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Re: Correction for FAQ
« Reply #3 on: January 13, 2008, 06:14:13 PM »
I didn't say anything about gravity.


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Re: Correction for FAQ
« Reply #4 on: January 13, 2008, 06:16:27 PM »
I didn't say anything about gravity.

But you did say gravitational field. How is a gravitational field possible if there is no gravity?

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Re: Correction for FAQ
« Reply #5 on: January 13, 2008, 06:21:53 PM »
Because gravity and gravitation are not the same thing.  Gravity is a force that was made up to explain why you feel pulled into the ground.  Gravitation is what actually keeps you on the ground. 


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Re: Correction for FAQ
« Reply #6 on: January 13, 2008, 06:37:16 PM »
Because gravity and gravitation are not the same thing.  Gravity is a force that was made up to explain why you feel pulled into the ground.  Gravitation is what actually keeps you on the ground. 

So gravity is a feeling? Like love or hate? but Gravitation is the actual scientific thing?

On top of that, I feel like I am being pulled to the ground. So In fact gravity is real.

Gravity and Gravitation is the same thing. If they are not show me proof.
« Last Edit: January 13, 2008, 06:39:38 PM by JamesNannen »

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Re: Correction for FAQ
« Reply #7 on: January 13, 2008, 06:44:11 PM »
So gravity is a feeling? Like love or hate?
No, it is a made up force.

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but Gravitation is the actual scientific thing?
Yes.

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On top of that, I feel like I am being pulled to the ground. So In fact gravity is real.
You only feel that way because you are constantly being accelerated due to your contact with the Earth. 

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Gravity and Gravitation is the same thing. If they are not show me proof.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_relativity


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Re: Correction for FAQ
« Reply #8 on: January 13, 2008, 07:00:13 PM »
So gravity is a feeling? Like love or hate?
No, it is a made up force.

Prove to me that love and hate are not made up forces?


You only feel that way because you are constantly being accelerated due to your contact with the Earth. 

What if I did not have contact with Earth?
« Last Edit: January 13, 2008, 07:01:44 PM by JamesNannen »

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Re: Correction for FAQ
« Reply #9 on: January 13, 2008, 07:03:09 PM »
What if I did not have contact with Earth?
Then you don't feel the force, unless you are accelerating in another fashion.


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Re: Correction for FAQ
« Reply #10 on: January 14, 2008, 10:15:29 AM »
While you two bicker, I'm going to ask again why we observe altitudinal differences in gravity/gravitation/whatever you feel like calling it today. And again, stars will not do.
Proof the Earth is round!
http://theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=19341.0

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The conspiracy has made it impossible to adequately explain FE theory in English.
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Re: Correction for FAQ
« Reply #11 on: January 14, 2008, 10:25:37 AM »
Too bad that's not the topic.


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Re: Correction for FAQ
« Reply #12 on: January 14, 2008, 10:27:06 AM »
Yes, but no. You offered a valid counterargument to his argument(UA), so I offered a valid counterargument to yours(Altitude differences). I think its pretty close to topic.
Proof the Earth is round!
http://theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=19341.0

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