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Masterchef

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Re: Creationism
« Reply #30 on: January 17, 2008, 09:21:41 PM »
I wonder if Kent Hovind will go to hell for being raped in prison. ;D
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Saddam Hussein

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Re: Creationism
« Reply #31 on: January 18, 2008, 02:02:44 PM »
No one goes to hell.  There is no hell.
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Bushido

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« Reply #32 on: January 18, 2008, 02:14:44 PM »
Quote from: Saddam, Leader of the FES on January 18, 2008, 02:02:44 PM
No one goes to hell.  There is no hell.

You know you had it coming:

DO YOU HAVE ANY PROOF TO BACK YOUR OUTLANDISH CLAIM?
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Saddam Hussein

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Re: Creationism
« Reply #33 on: January 18, 2008, 02:17:45 PM »
The said I went to hell.  But I didn't.  I'm alive.
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Bushido

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« Reply #34 on: January 18, 2008, 05:24:00 PM »
Everything in due time. BTW, if we keep it up, this thread will be you know where.
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Saddam Hussein

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Re: Creationism
« Reply #35 on: January 18, 2008, 06:55:35 PM »
Uh oh, we had better start talking seriously.
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dysfunction

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Re: Creationism
« Reply #36 on: January 18, 2008, 07:58:37 PM »
Quote from: Bushido on January 18, 2008, 02:14:44 PM
Quote from: Saddam, Leader of the FES on January 18, 2008, 02:02:44 PM
No one goes to hell.  There is no hell.

You know you had it coming:

DO YOU HAVE ANY PROOF TO BACK YOUR OUTLANDISH CLAIM?
Erm, I should think that hell is the outlandish claim, and saying there is no hell is no more outlandish than saying there are no fairies.
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Althalus

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Re: Creationism
« Reply #37 on: January 18, 2008, 11:39:10 PM »
Whats so hard about believing in hell if you can believe in an infinite amount of universes, all with their own rules? At least one of those should resemble hell.
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Optimus Prime

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Re: Creationism
« Reply #38 on: January 19, 2008, 01:49:38 AM »
Hey! Wassup with saying there's no such thing as Fairies? That's just friggin' wrong man. What's the matter with you? You murdering bastards!!!

*clap* *clap* *clap* *clap* *clap* *clap* *clap* *clap* *clap* *clap* *clap* *clap* *clap* *clap* *clap* *clap* *clap* *clap* *clap* *clap* *clap* *clap* *clap* *clap* *clap* *clap* *clap* *clap* *clap* *clap* *clap* *clap* *clap* *clap* *clap* *clap*

*whew!*

Sheesh... some people!
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jackh4eva

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Re: Creationism
« Reply #39 on: January 19, 2008, 06:05:45 AM »
I'm religious, but the problem with us is that we are more likely to commit crimes, if you see what I mean. I can rob a bank then pray for forgiveness, but an atheist has to live with the guilt. I think that atheists are more likely to have morals than some religious people, because they don't believe they will be forgiven.
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dysfunction

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Re: Creationism
« Reply #40 on: January 19, 2008, 09:13:18 AM »
Quote from: Althalus on January 18, 2008, 11:39:10 PM
Whats so hard about believing in hell if you can believe in an infinite amount of universes, all with their own rules? At least one of those should resemble hell.

Not if they all branch off from the same universe at the Big Bang, meaning physical laws and constants should be the same as ours.
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Re: Creationism
« Reply #41 on: January 19, 2008, 12:48:50 PM »
Quote from: jackh4eva on January 19, 2008, 06:05:45 AM
I'm religious, but the problem with us is that we are more likely to commit crimes, if you see what I mean. I can rob a bank then pray for forgiveness, but an atheist has to live with the guilt. I think that atheists are more likely to have morals than some religious people, because they don't believe they will be forgiven.
Has there actually been a study that shows that religious people from the same background etc are more likely to commit crimes?
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Optimus Prime

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Re: Creationism
« Reply #42 on: January 19, 2008, 05:20:54 PM »
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Bushido

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« Reply #43 on: January 19, 2008, 07:44:09 PM »
Quote from: jackh4eva on January 19, 2008, 06:05:45 AM
I'm religious, but the problem with us is that we are more likely to commit crimes, if you see what I mean. I can rob a bank then pray for forgiveness, but an atheist has to live with the guilt.

That is only if you're cathoilc.
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dysfunction

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Re: Creationism
« Reply #44 on: January 19, 2008, 07:50:24 PM »
Quote from: Username on January 19, 2008, 12:48:50 PM
Quote from: jackh4eva on January 19, 2008, 06:05:45 AM
I'm religious, but the problem with us is that we are more likely to commit crimes, if you see what I mean. I can rob a bank then pray for forgiveness, but an atheist has to live with the guilt. I think that atheists are more likely to have morals than some religious people, because they don't believe they will be forgiven.
Has there actually been a study that shows that religious people from the same background etc are more likely to commit crimes?

Methinks he kids.
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Optimus Prime

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Re: Creationism
« Reply #45 on: January 19, 2008, 10:21:09 PM »
Quote from: Bushido on January 19, 2008, 07:44:09 PM
Quote from: jackh4eva on January 19, 2008, 06:05:45 AM
I'm religious, but the problem with us is that we are more likely to commit crimes, if you see what I mean. I can rob a bank then pray for forgiveness, but an atheist has to live with the guilt.

That is only if you're cathoilc.

Nah, it's even easier for many Protestants ... depending on your particular denomination ;)
As long as you say *out loud* "I take Jesus Christ as my saviour" - then all is forgiven and off you go to heaven. Plain and simple.
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Mythix Profit

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« Reply #46 on: January 19, 2008, 11:02:53 PM »
Such a sweet deal; this absolution/redemption thang.
Logically then: so long as one is aware of one's impending demise; a person could engage in all manner of horiffic acts for an entire life-time and, as a trump card, call on the mercy of his diety, to be immediately granted a "get out of eternal damnation free" card.

So; in theory,even as we "speak", Adolph Hitler could be painting mediocre landscapes in heaven.

Or does the sin of the suicide solution in his case negate the deal?
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Optimus Prime

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Re: Creationism
« Reply #47 on: January 20, 2008, 06:12:54 PM »
Yeah.. unfortunately the "Please forgive me!" *BANG!* Doesn't really work out too well since you've already decided, then pulled the trigger *after* the plea on top of it all. Not enough of a good work up for sincerity there.

Straight to hell in a hand-basket for him!
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Mythix Profit

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« Reply #48 on: January 20, 2008, 08:33:40 PM »
Unfortunately, for a great many, the hope of a theoretical trip in a hypothetical hand-basket is not so satisfying an outcome as seeing an actual swing at the end of a real rope.

How is it that, betond the bravado, most dictators are insecure, sniveling, chicken-shit, little bastards at heart?
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 believe that; the Earth is flat until such time as I stand within the Space Station and personally see that it is a Globe.
or that the Earth is a sphere until such time as I stand upon the Icewall and personally see that it is a Flat Disk.
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Althalus

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Re: Creationism
« Reply #49 on: January 21, 2008, 03:20:38 AM »
Quote from: Optimus Prime on January 19, 2008, 05:20:54 PM
http://moses.creighton.edu/jrs/2005/2005-11.html
Murder rates are lower then they were three hundred years ago? Amazing!
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nicolin

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Re: Creationism
« Reply #50 on: January 21, 2008, 09:08:14 AM »
Quote from: Althalus on January 21, 2008, 03:20:38 AM
Quote from: Optimus Prime on January 19, 2008, 05:20:54 PM
http://moses.creighton.edu/jrs/2005/2005-11.html
Murder rates are lower then they were three hundred years ago? Amazing!
And YOUR personal point of view is?
Or are you just content to have someone else find for you some dubious article that best suits your point(s) of view(s) on a certain topic on one of the many forums on the internet?

With the risk of getting banned by the mods, I strongly doubt that someone who thinks that a polish Bush as an avatar is representing one's values can in fact shed light on such a sensitive subject as religion.
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Optimus Prime

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Re: Creationism
« Reply #51 on: January 21, 2008, 10:05:54 AM »
Quote from: Althalus on January 21, 2008, 03:20:38 AM
Quote from: Optimus Prime on January 19, 2008, 05:20:54 PM
http://moses.creighton.edu/jrs/2005/2005-11.html
Murder rates are lower then they were three hundred years ago? Amazing!

You picked out the part that best suits your needs? Amazing! ;D

Somebody wanted an article, I took the time to do a little research and help out. Notice I didn't go hunting for any particular red herring which I could have. Thanks.
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Althalus

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Re: Creationism
« Reply #52 on: January 21, 2008, 10:23:11 AM »
Quote from: nicolin on January 21, 2008, 09:08:14 AM
Quote from: Althalus on January 21, 2008, 03:20:38 AM
Quote from: Optimus Prime on January 19, 2008, 05:20:54 PM
http://moses.creighton.edu/jrs/2005/2005-11.html
Murder rates are lower then they were three hundred years ago? Amazing!
And YOUR personal point of view is?
Or are you just content to have someone else find for you some dubious article that best suits your point(s) of view(s) on a certain topic on one of the many forums on the internet?

With the risk of getting banned by the mods, I strongly doubt that someone who thinks that a polish Bush as an avatar is representing one's values can in fact shed light on such a sensitive subject as religion.
A purple ass-smacker is better?
Poland & the US > Romania
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Germanicus

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Re: Creationism
« Reply #53 on: January 21, 2008, 01:51:42 PM »
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Murder rates are lower then they were three hundred years ago? Amazing!

That's because its harder to kill people with all this damn medicine.
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nicolin

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« Reply #54 on: January 21, 2008, 09:10:35 PM »
Quote from: Althalus on January 21, 2008, 10:23:11 AM
Poland & the US > Romania

Most probably true, taking into acount the number of nasty conservative christian fanatics frolicking around.
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Althalus

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« Reply #55 on: January 22, 2008, 08:42:18 AM »
Quote from: nicolin on January 21, 2008, 09:08:14 AM
With the risk of getting banned by the mods, I strongly doubt that someone who thinks that a polish Bush as an avatar is representing one's values can in fact shed light on such a sensitive subject as religion.
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nicolin

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« Reply #56 on: January 22, 2008, 09:57:39 PM »
Quote from: Althalus on January 22, 2008, 08:42:18 AM
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Tell me you'e kidding...
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Mr. Ireland

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Re: Creationism
« Reply #57 on: January 27, 2008, 07:30:28 AM »


This guy doesn't like VenomFangX.
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Re: Creationism
« Reply #58 on: February 04, 2008, 10:17:49 PM »
Quote from: Mr. Ireland on January 13, 2008, 06:08:00 PM
This is a complete Kent Hovind knock off.  Word for word this guy took what Hovind said and simply made YouTube videos.  Even his tone of voice is a copy of Hovind's.  If you want the real deal to laugh at, download Kent Hovind's videos (it's actually completely legal) and get your laughs there (I actually had to stop after a few because I was about to kill my computer with the rage caused by his idiocy).

Oh my god, you're right.  That kid took WORD FOR WORD what was said in the video below by Kent Hovind.  He even pointed his webcam at Hovinds diagrams and slides!  I don't remember who posted it first, but here is Hovind's video:  http://freehovind.com/watch-4308235066145651150

That video is two hours long ... and somehow I got myself to watch all of it.  There are seven more videos in the series, too.  If you want to talk about brainwashing you should study this guy.  Hovind picks and chooses which "science" he considers credible (never stating why it is credible when he considers the rest of it atheist-based).  It just so happens that all his credible science agrees with a Young-Earth theory, too!  Not only that, he was so quick to condemn cosmologists for "not really knowing what happened millions and billions of years ago" -- to which they agree for the most part -- but never considered that he himself did not know what really happened 4 thousand years ago.  It's obvious to him that he does know what happened, though, because it's written in the bible.  He said so himself numerous times that "the bible is right about this stuff." 

And he blames EVOLUTION for the rise in teen pregnancies, underage drug use, and essentially everything else bad that is happening to children.  And, of course, it does not end there:

Quote from: "Unmasking the False Religion of Evolution Chapter 4", 1996, (a transcript of Kent Hovind's early sermons)
"Evolution was Vladimir Ilich Lenin’s problem. Lenin lead the Bolshevik Revolution in 1917 and took over Russia. He killed the Zar [sic] and his family in cold blood. There would not be communism in Russia today if had not been for Charles Darwin's book on evolution."
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Benocrates

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Re: Creationism
« Reply #59 on: February 05, 2008, 10:08:14 AM »
Theres a great debate on Richard Dawkins' site between Dr. PZ Myers and Dr. Geoffrey Simmons on evolutionary theory. PZ is an evolutionary biologist and Simmons is a Medical Doctor and they are discussing whether or not Darwinian theory is fact or a faith issue.

   My commentary on it should be clear to anyone who listens to it. Dr Simmons is not an expert in the field of biology and seems do have done little or no research beyond reading "an article in Acientific America." PZ should have torn into him for that, especially being totally wrong about whale fossels.

Check it out: http://richarddawkins.net/article,2206,Are-Darwins-Theories-Fact-or-Faith-Issues,PZ-Myers-Geoffrey-Simmons-AM-980-KKMS
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