The earth is round (proof)

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The earth is round (proof)
« Reply #60 on: November 05, 2006, 10:51:57 PM »
If if the pictures are real they could easily create plane windows as a slight lens.  You are looking through a peice of glass after all.  Simple optical illusion.  If you want to take a magnifying glass and convince yourself there are giant ants inhabiting our planet be my guest.

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« Reply #61 on: November 05, 2006, 11:02:44 PM »
I know a person who has a huge farm with practically no trees, and you can actully see the curve of the earth!  :o
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« Reply #62 on: November 06, 2006, 11:34:40 AM »
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I know a person who has a huge farm with practically no trees, and you can actully see the curve of the earth!  :o


It's all in his imagination.  Even if the Earth were round (which it isn't) you wouldn't be able to see the curvature from the surface.  At all.
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« Reply #63 on: November 06, 2006, 12:04:15 PM »
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Quote from: "Who da man"
I know a person who has a huge farm with practically no trees, and you can actully see the curve of the earth!  :o


It's all in his imagination.  Even if the Earth were round (which it isn't) you wouldn't be able to see the curvature from the surface.  At all.


And yet the FAQ says that you beleive the earth is flat because it looks that way up close.
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« Reply #64 on: November 06, 2006, 12:20:39 PM »
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And yet the FAQ says that you beleive the earth is flat because it looks that way up close.


What are you trying to say?  That because the Earth is not visibly round, we ought to conclude that it is invisibly round?
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« Reply #65 on: November 06, 2006, 02:26:06 PM »
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And yet the FAQ says that you beleive the earth is flat because it looks that way up close.


What are you trying to say?  That because the Earth is not visibly round, we ought to conclude that it is invisibly round?
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you said it yourself in another thread. if the earth was round, the curvature could not be visible form the surface anywhere. since the earth appears to be flat, it could not be any other shape. your argument is just as out of context as an re'er posting a picture taken from orbit.
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« Reply #66 on: November 06, 2006, 03:47:13 PM »
Quote from: "Erasmus"
Quote from: "Who da man"
I know a person who has a huge farm with practically no trees, and you can actully see the curve of the earth!  :o


It's all in his imagination.  Even if the Earth were round (which it isn't) you wouldn't be able to see the curvature from the surface.  At all.


Incorrect; only significant figures limit this.  In an idealistic world, you could be able to detect the curvature of the Earth.

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« Reply #67 on: November 06, 2006, 04:41:26 PM »
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In an idealistic world,


... something much more powerful would replace the human eyes.
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« Reply #68 on: November 06, 2006, 04:43:16 PM »
you can see the curves in earth from atop everest
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« Reply #69 on: November 06, 2006, 04:49:43 PM »
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you can see the curves in earth from atop everest


I can't.... but that's just because the last time I climbed atop Mt. Everest, the clouds and the frost on my goggles and the Himalayas obscured my vision.  Maybe next time I'll see it!
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« Reply #70 on: November 06, 2006, 04:50:01 PM »
Ummmm, I am not climbing that freaking molehill

try again

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« Reply #71 on: November 06, 2006, 04:55:49 PM »
you know now days they can drop you from a helicopter.
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« Reply #72 on: November 06, 2006, 04:56:57 PM »
Not really.

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« Reply #73 on: November 06, 2006, 04:57:47 PM »
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Not really.


if you got the right amount of cash yes..
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« Reply #74 on: November 06, 2006, 05:00:12 PM »
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if you got the right amount of cash yes..


The right amount of cash will get you a lot of things. I just don't happen to have the right amount of cash.

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« Reply #75 on: November 06, 2006, 05:01:18 PM »
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if you got the right amount of cash yes..


The right amount of cash will get you a lot of things. I just don't happen to have the right amount of cash.


and what is the right amount?
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« Reply #76 on: November 06, 2006, 05:02:36 PM »
In reference to the idea of air being transparent. it depends on what the "air" is made up from. The light produced is actually reflective light as it bounces off and scatters from the surface of whatever body it lands on first.

Oxygen has a diffraction color of blue, which is why our atmosphere turns blue when the light from the sun produces a light blue film around (or across) the earth during the day. Carbon, the predominate atmospheric element in martian atmosphere is refracted as red, which gives it a red tint.

Hydrogen is a pale yellow I think, and methane is almost white. I am not sure, but there is something somewhere that goed through the color spectrum for element gasses.

Anyway, back to the subject. Climbing stop mt everest is not only very expensive to even consdider for a local person in nepal or tibet. To have an average person go through the hassle of climbing that monster to prove the earth is round is unrealistic. A chopper flighht is expensive as hell when you are talking about the top of everest. The atmosphere is so thin that it must have no wind, lots of gas, and all sorts of other things to do it safely.

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« Reply #77 on: November 06, 2006, 05:04:21 PM »
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and what is the right amount?


Enough to purchase a helicopter ride to the top of mount Everest, apparently.

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« Reply #78 on: November 06, 2006, 05:06:06 PM »
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and what is the right amount?


Enough to purchase a helicopter ride to the top of mount Everest, apparently.


and back down, inless your gonna ski it
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« Reply #79 on: November 06, 2006, 05:07:27 PM »
No man, think!

You can show that the earth is not flat much easier than expensive helicopter charters, climbing a mountain to 28,000 or more feet, or even taking a plane trip. Just think about it.

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« Reply #80 on: November 06, 2006, 05:19:10 PM »
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you know now days they can drop you from a helicopter.


Actually it turns out to be surprisingly difficult.  The air is very thin and the wind is very strong (like 300 km/hr).
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« Reply #81 on: November 06, 2006, 05:43:13 PM »
If I can't see it from an airplane, how would I see it from the top of Everest?


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« Reply #82 on: November 06, 2006, 08:26:38 PM »
Because you're above the cloud line, and of course - the first step into believing is remove all evidence. Like not being able to see, for example
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« Reply #83 on: November 06, 2006, 08:30:07 PM »
I'm pretty sure it was argued and decided that you need to be very high up to be able to clearly see the curve of the world (if it is round).  Certainly on a standard plane, even if the Earth was round, the curve is so small it can't really be distinguished.  We can run through the calculations again if you want?

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« Reply #84 on: November 06, 2006, 08:37:41 PM »
You can see the clouds curving over the horizon on a moderately cloudy day at the beach. It's an amazing sight, you begin to get a feel for the true scale of the Earth.
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« Reply #85 on: November 06, 2006, 08:40:39 PM »
How can you tell that this is a curve and not you having a limited vision - if you could only see things that are up to 500 km away (as an example) then wouldn't you see a curve even if things were flat?

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« Reply #86 on: November 06, 2006, 09:45:42 PM »
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How can you tell that this is a curve and not you having a limited vision - if you could only see things that are up to 500 km away (as an example) then wouldn't you see a curve even if things were flat?


Why don't you try it for yourself instead of immediately supposing that he's wrong?
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