Creation of a Flat Earth

the earth is round

lol that is your only argument...and it is really lame.

can you explain this?

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Okay, here's a question I came up with.  According to the RE, our planet formed thanks to dust and gas gathering and swirling together after the Big Bang that created the universe.  Overtime, these particles solidified into the Earth, adopting a round shape like the shape a water drop makes when it falls to the ground.

So, in the FET, how is is possible for the Earth to form as a disk or cylinder?  I just can't imagine how the countless amount of tiny particles could gather to form any shape other than a sphere.

According to the RE, our planet formed thanks to dust and gas gathering and swirling together after the Big Bang that created the universe.

Overtime, these particles solidified into the Earth, adopting a round shape like the shape a water drop makes when it falls to the ground.

How should we know how the earth was created? We weren't there.

Nothing + nothing = nothing.  Always.  Period. 

Quote from: Mongrelman on January 07, 2008, 11:26:15 AM

Nothing + nothing = nothing.  Always.  Period. 

Thank you for the brilliant mathematical insight supporting your beliefs.

True Mongrel, but RE creation does not rely on the Big Bang. We have seen planets like our own form around stars using powerful telescopes. So the Big Bang is not necessary for a RE. That said, the Big Bang has its merits, such as explaining why systems too far away to communicate with each other have similar structures, and the expansion of the universe, so on. At any rate, how our solar system condensed into planets and the sun is independent of the Big Bang.

Quote from: Mongrelman on January 07, 2008, 11:26:15 AM

Nothing + nothing = nothing.  Always.  Period. 

Thank you for the brilliant mathematical insight supporting your beliefs.

Regardless of how the Earth formed, or the Solar System, or the whole Universe, the Earth is still round.

Quote from: Bushido on January 07, 2008, 11:38:31 AM

Regardless of how the Earth formed, or the Solar System, or the whole Universe, the Earth is still round.

This thread is about how the Earth was created, though.  Creation is of utmost importance in a thread about creation.   

Quote from: Mongrelman on January 07, 2008, 11:40:00 AM

Quote from: Bushido on January 07, 2008, 11:38:31 AM

Regardless of how the Earth formed, or the Solar System, or the whole Universe, the Earth is still round.

This thread is about how the Earth was created, though.  Creation is of utmost importance in a thread about creation.   

This thread is trying to prove the falseness of a FE model by implying it cannot explain the creation of the Earth, while, at the same time, presenting false arguments that the OP thinks are correct in a RE model. You have added nothing to the discussion by your own views about the Big Bang Theory and its connection with bacterias giving rise to human babies.

Quote from: Logic hopeful on January 07, 2008, 07:37:05 AM

According to the RE, our planet formed thanks to dust and gas gathering and swirling together after the Big Bang that created the universe.

That's not how I heard it.

Quote from: Logic hopeful on January 07, 2008, 07:37:05 AM

Overtime, these particles solidified into the Earth, adopting a round shape like the shape a water drop makes when it falls to the ground.

I don't see the basis for your analogy.

You addressed only your own views.

According to RE theory, there was nothing before the Big Bang, and then there was something after the Big Bang.  So, nothing + nothing = explosion, which causes everything that exists.

please, for the sake of all that is holy, try to replicate that.  Try to take nothing and cause something.  For example, empty out of a room of all manufactured and artificial substances.  Just leave the room with nothing in it except for bacteria and stuff.  Now, leave that room alone for nine months.  When you come back, is there a baby inside?  Of course not!  There was nothing to cause the baby, and there were no forces acting toward the effect of a human child.  In the room, there will be exactly what you left there: nothing.  Nothing + nothing = nothing.  Always.  Period.

So, if there was ever a point when nothing existed at all, there would still be nothing.  And since there's a universe now, we can logically deduce that there was never nothing.  That means that the Big Bang did not create the universe, because it is logically impossible for an explosion to have been caused when there was nothing.  Even if the Big Bang happened, it is not a perfect theory for creation.

1. What is a 'RE theory'?
2. You are struggling with issues that the Ancient philosophers were struggling with. But, using empty logic, like 'The being exists' will get you nowhere.
3. Why do you add to 'nothing' at the left hand side of the equation. Then, why do you use the word 'explosion'. Where did the Universe explode into?

Poor analogy. Time scales, fundamental interactions involved, etc.

This is a philosophic argument. The Big Bang theory is a scientific model, based on the Standard Model and General Theory of Relativity, trying to explain astronomical observations. It does not address the issue how the world began. Instead, it addresses the early stages of the Universe, and, its fate.

For the life of me, I cannot understand why we are arguing over the big bang.

So, by your logic, when people didn't know how the Universe was formed, they were wrong in thinking that the Earth was round.