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Gravity on a FE...
« on: January 06, 2008, 01:33:09 PM »
I am curious as to the explanation of Gravity on the hypothetical "Flat Earth". Since you cannot believe Gravity originate(s) from mass (or the Earth would have collapsed into a sphere), from whence it comes?
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« Reply #1 on: January 06, 2008, 01:36:51 PM »
It doesn't exist
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« Reply #2 on: January 06, 2008, 01:45:10 PM »
it doesn't exist as a force
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« Reply #3 on: January 06, 2008, 01:55:04 PM »
How can it not? Even if its just acceleration in the y direction, its still a force. At any rate, how do you counter the Cavendish experiment?
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« Reply #4 on: January 06, 2008, 01:57:00 PM »
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« Reply #5 on: January 06, 2008, 01:57:39 PM »
it's a fictitious force.

I've had enough of debate and discussion for today anyway.

You really don't think I believe any of this do you?

I only argue for FE because they are overwhelmed with noobs, trolls, staunch RE'ers, and eric bloedow.
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« Reply #6 on: January 06, 2008, 01:59:00 PM »
Quote from: Michamus on January 06, 2008, 01:33:09 PM
I am curious as to the explanation of Gravity on the hypothetical "Flat Earth". Since you cannot believe Gravity originate(s) from mass (or the Earth would have collapsed into a sphere), from whence it comes?
How about reading the FAQ first?
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« Reply #7 on: January 06, 2008, 02:00:15 PM »
Understandable, but technically, even under RE due to GR, gravity is a fictitious force. Doesn't make the effects any different.
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« Reply #8 on: January 06, 2008, 02:01:40 PM »
That means it does not exist as a force.  Which is what Z said.
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« Reply #9 on: January 06, 2008, 02:03:41 PM »
But we are talking about the effects. Quit with the nitpick, engy, even scientists refer to it as a force casually.
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« Reply #10 on: January 06, 2008, 02:03:50 PM »
YAY Engy is here!!!
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« Reply #11 on: January 06, 2008, 02:10:41 PM »
Good, he can ban all the trolls. Except the cool ones, like me.
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« Reply #12 on: January 06, 2008, 02:46:24 PM »
In physics the most technical way to refer to the effects of gravity is "force due to gravity".

The FE model relies certain exemptions for the planet earth, such as earth not producing gravity.
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« Reply #13 on: January 06, 2008, 02:49:54 PM »
Why don't you go and sing some songs, Rod Stewart, and leave the scientists to do the science.
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« Reply #14 on: January 06, 2008, 02:58:07 PM »
I'm retired, I've found a new love.
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« Reply #15 on: January 06, 2008, 03:03:32 PM »
is it barry manlove?
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« Reply #16 on: January 06, 2008, 03:04:22 PM »
Force or not, it exists. The RE explanation is an increase in mass has a directly proportional increase in Gravity. On our planet (Earth) objects in a vacuum fall to the Earth at 9.81M/sē. On a much smaller object (The Moon) an object within a vacuum falls at 1.622 m/sē.
 Supporting evidence of this is found when testing gravity at the equator we find the rate descent as 9.78m/sē. So the explanation of a RE argument that "distance from object center/mass=g " is vindicated.

 What of the FE argument?
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« Reply #17 on: January 06, 2008, 03:05:31 PM »
FE gravity is indistinguishable from its RE counterpart.
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« Reply #18 on: January 06, 2008, 03:05:57 PM »
acceleration of the earth
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« Reply #19 on: January 06, 2008, 03:08:17 PM »
Quote from: GeneralGayer on January 06, 2008, 03:05:57 PM
acceleration of the earth
From where is this endless energy source derived to cause this acceleration of Earth to be 9.81m/sē? We would be have approached light speed just to maintain "gravity's" existence. Also, all other objects require this same unlimited energy source.
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« Reply #20 on: January 06, 2008, 03:10:07 PM »
no one knows what exactly it is yet, this is explained better in the FAQ, maybe, can't remember
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« Reply #21 on: January 06, 2008, 03:11:05 PM »
Quote from: Michamus on January 06, 2008, 03:04:22 PM
Force or not, it exists. The RE explanation is an increase in mass has a directly proportional increase in Gravity. On our planet (Earth) objects in a vacuum fall to the Earth at 9.81M/sē. On a much smaller object (The Moon) an object within a vacuum falls at 1.622 m/sē.
 Supporting evidence of this is found when testing gravity at the equator we find the rate descent as 9.78m/sē. So the explanation of a RE argument that "distance from object center/mass=g " is vindicated.

 What of the FE argument?

Conspiracy. Unless the FE society, you, I, scientists, and the pope are present, the experiment doesn't hold.
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« Reply #22 on: January 06, 2008, 03:11:43 PM »
Quote from: GeneralGayer on January 06, 2008, 03:10:07 PM
no one knows what exactly it is yet, this is explained better in the FAQ, maybe, can't remember
Exactly what is? You are telling me there is some unlimited source of energy constantly propelling the Earth at 9.81m/sē? Why then would the equator be 9.78m/sē?
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« Reply #23 on: January 06, 2008, 03:12:49 PM »
Quote from: Rod Stewart on January 06, 2008, 03:11:05 PM
Quote from: Michamus on January 06, 2008, 03:04:22 PM
Force or not, it exists. The RE explanation is an increase in mass has a directly proportional increase in Gravity. On our planet (Earth) objects in a vacuum fall to the Earth at 9.81M/sē. On a much smaller object (The Moon) an object within a vacuum falls at 1.622 m/sē.
 Supporting evidence of this is found when testing gravity at the equator we find the rate descent as 9.78m/sē. So the explanation of a RE argument that "distance from object center/mass=g " is vindicated.

 What of the FE argument?

Conspiracy. Unless the FE society, you, I, scientists, and the pope are present, the experiment doesn't hold.
What is your explanation then?
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Re: Gravity on a FE...
« Reply #24 on: January 06, 2008, 03:15:59 PM »
Dark Energy
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« Reply #25 on: January 06, 2008, 03:17:15 PM »
Quote from: Michamus on January 06, 2008, 03:11:43 PM
Quote from: GeneralGayer on January 06, 2008, 03:10:07 PM
no one knows what exactly it is yet, this is explained better in the FAQ, maybe, can't remember
Exactly what is? You are telling me there is some unlimited source of energy constantly propelling the Earth at 9.81m/sē? Why then would the equator be 9.78m/sē?


no one said it was unlimited, or that it has to be unlimited.
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« Reply #26 on: January 06, 2008, 03:20:32 PM »
Quote from: Lord Z, Th Purpl on January 06, 2008, 03:15:59 PM
Dark Energy

Energy by itself? Something must harness it. And Dark Energy is considered the cost of space. Doesn't tally.

Also, At 9.8 metres/sec/sec, the speed of light would be reached in 30,612,244(ignoring relativistic effects). That's one year. According to FE, we should observe the force of gravity constantly decreasing. Not noticed.
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« Reply #27 on: January 06, 2008, 03:21:08 PM »
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Quote from: Lord Z, Th Purpl on January 06, 2008, 03:15:59 PM
Dark Energy

Energy by itself? Something must harness it. And Dark Energy is considered the cost of space. Doesn't tally.

Also, At 9.8 metres/sec/sec, the speed of light would be reached in 30,612,244(ignoring relativistic effects). That's one year. According to FE, we should observe the force of gravity constantly decreasing. Not noticed.

why?
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« Reply #28 on: January 06, 2008, 03:22:37 PM »
no. Absolutely not.

In our own frame of reference we would see nothing. In an outside frame of reference, yes, you would see the acceleration changing.

The dark Energy is being harnessed by the Dark Matter underneath the Earth.
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« Reply #29 on: January 06, 2008, 03:22:45 PM »
Are you not aware of the implications of acceleration at that speed? 9.8m/sē x 31,557,600 = 309,264,480m/s So in 1 year we would exceed light-speed. When an object reaches light-speed it requires an infinite amount of energy as it has acquired an infinite mass.
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