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« on: January 01, 2008, 04:28:58 PM »
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Re: Question For Dogplatter: The Interdimensional Hypothesis
« Reply #1 on: January 01, 2008, 05:25:03 PM »
tl; dr
Where did you educate the biology, in toulet?

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Re: Question For Dogplatter: The Interdimensional Hypothesis
« Reply #3 on: January 01, 2008, 05:34:00 PM »
tl, dr + 2

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Re: Question For Dogplatter: The Interdimensional Hypothesis
« Reply #4 on: January 01, 2008, 06:01:43 PM »
tl: dr + 3

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Re: Question For Dogplatter: The Interdimensional Hypothesis
« Reply #5 on: January 02, 2008, 12:23:46 AM »
Graphite.
My problem with his ideas is that it is a ridiculous thing.

Genius. PURE, undiluted genius.

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Re: Question For Dogplatter: The Interdimensional Hypothesis
« Reply #6 on: January 02, 2008, 05:08:40 AM »
Samsonite.
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Re: Question For Dogplatter: The Interdimensional Hypothesis
« Reply #7 on: January 02, 2008, 07:08:10 AM »
17th November,

   I'm afraid I must disagree with your statement that certain elements of government are unaware of the Earth's true shape, or that they are not covering it up. Charges of Conspiracy brought forward by Zetetics differ from those brought forth in a UFO context - I sincerely believe that the Conspiracy is not a catch-all to be frivilously inserted into legitimate study of science, but that if it exists, and where it is seen to exist, we cannot help but point it out.

   The space programmes of the world are prime examples - when addressing issues of "space exploration" from a Zetetic perspective, mention of the Conspiracy isn't some sort of cop-out or ridiculous fantasy, but merely a concession of what must be the case (and what is science if not the study of that which is true?)

   I also assure you that much scrutiny of the Conspiracy has most certainly been derived from commited Zeteticists - the great Zetetic Scientist John Hampden was keen to point out the foundings of the Conspiracy happening right under his nose in 19th Century Britain, and the collaboration of certain wealthy media moguls and Globularist quacks in order to discredit the Zetetic Science community (and most shamelessly rob them of their money, too - Hampden was driven into bankruptcy by continued legal molestation by the deluded and wholesomely evil Alfred Russell Wallace, following a plot to trick Hampden which Hampden rightly spotted and consequently called Wallace on). The involvement of Astronomer Royal George Airy in Wallace's foul plot represents perhaps one of the first elements of "governmental Conspiracy" in the long history of nutty Globularist subterfuge.
   Additionally, Charles K Johnson, one of the most notorious Zeteticists of the 20th Century, was keen to point out NASA's involvement in the space Conspiracy at every possible opportunity.

   Consequently, the Conspiracy is certainly not fabricated, even less so fabricated by globularists.

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I do not believe that the government in general (including intelligence agencies) is covering up either the truth about the Flat Earth or UFO's neither of which it knows anything about.  A lot of the same cliches about conspiracy have been applied to Flat Earth study (such as a government coverup) by people who do not even believe the Earth is flat.

   How are the activities of NASA and other space agencies explicable if government (or at least some elements of government) are unaware of the Conspiracy? I gladly concede that government is not involved in its entirety in the Conspiracy, but some element of awareness in certain areas of government is inevitable.

   As for the interdimensional hypothesis, I confess that I am poorly read in the literature of UFOology. From what I have ascertained about the interdimensional hypothesis, it certainly seems more plausible, in the light of what we know about the physics of the Earth and universe, than "men from outer space", primarily because I regard "space travel" as it is conventionally understood as a farcical nonsense which violates the laws of physics (the real laws, not the made-up Newtonian laws). I'll certainly do a bit of reading on the subject, thanks for the recommendation!
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Re: Question For Dogplatter: The Interdimensional Hypothesis
« Reply #8 on: January 02, 2008, 07:11:55 AM »
And for the rest of you, that's enough spamming an a legitimate thread thank you!

It's not Too Long. Do Read. (Or, if you didn't, there's no need to tell us that you didn't. Try and keep this kind of derailing for Angry Ranting, Complete Nonsense etc., rather than the discussion boards).
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Re: Question For Dogplatter: The Interdimensional Hypothesis
« Reply #9 on: January 02, 2008, 07:19:27 AM »
And for the rest of you, that's enough spamming an a legitimate thread thank you!

It's not Too Long. Do Read. (Or, if you didn't, there's no need to tell us that you didn't. Try and keep this kind of derailing for Angry Ranting, Complete Nonsense etc., rather than the discussion boards).

How do General Discussion and Everything Else stand on that?

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Re: Question For Dogplatter: The Interdimensional Hypothesis
« Reply #10 on: January 02, 2008, 07:32:49 AM »
How do General Discussion and Everything Else stand on that?

A bit of a grey area as far as I'm aware. But definitely do not spam Alt. Science, Philosophy/Relig., D&D, Q&C and the FEIR.
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Re: Question For Dogplatter: The Interdimensional Hypothesis
« Reply #11 on: January 06, 2008, 07:46:31 PM »
WTF, you are still here?
if i remember, austria is an old, dis-used name for what is now Germany.
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Re: Question For Dogplatter: The Interdimensional Hypothesis
« Reply #12 on: January 06, 2008, 08:16:37 PM »
To stupid; didn't care

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Re: Question For Dogplatter: The Interdimensional Hypothesis
« Reply #13 on: January 06, 2008, 08:59:49 PM »
Agh!! The "We didn't land on the moon" thing again?!

Ok, I snipped this off the end of a very good film for you. Not even sure it's out yet or what, I was given it as a favor and am only releasing this short end-clip.

Just watch these men and tell me if you truly believe they are just in on some conspiracy or not. Seriously and honestly tell me.

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Re: Question For Dogplatter: The Interdimensional Hypothesis
« Reply #14 on: January 07, 2008, 09:37:34 AM »
NASA activities are explicable for the same reasons that US military personnel who do not care to be in Iraq or who disagree with US politics reguardless of their particular assignment never the less do their job because personal circumstances which are usually (but not exclusively) financial.

I certainly agree with you on that - it's unlikely that low-level NASA employees are aware of the Conspiracy. Even some staff on the manufacturing side of things probably aren't "in on it". I'd imagine plenty of employees are unaware of WHY they perform the tasks they perform, merely that they must perform those tasks.

In all the areas of society which the Conspiracy permeates, it only does so at critical levels - to claim universal involvement for any one of the organizations is folly.
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Re: Question For Dogplatter: The Interdimensional Hypothesis
« Reply #15 on: January 07, 2008, 05:25:40 PM »
Agh!! The "We didn't land on the moon" thing again?!

Ok, I snipped this off the end of a very good film for you. Not even sure it's out yet or what, I was given it as a favor and am only releasing this short end-clip.

Just watch these men and tell me if you truly believe they are just in on some conspiracy or not. Seriously and honestly tell me.

moonshot
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Re: Question For Dogplatter: The Interdimensional Hypothesis
« Reply #16 on: January 07, 2008, 05:30:20 PM »
Yeah, it's getting really annoying.

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Re: Question For Dogplatter: The Interdimensional Hypothesis
« Reply #17 on: January 08, 2008, 03:58:59 PM »
LOL
My problem with his ideas is that it is a ridiculous thing.

Genius. PURE, undiluted genius.

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Re: Question For Dogplatter: The Interdimensional Hypothesis
« Reply #18 on: January 08, 2008, 10:33:00 PM »
What's annoying are the wilfully ignorant people who are taken in by moon landing propaganda and insist that others believe their fantasy.

As to UFO contactees of the 1940's and 1950's, cults which believe their propaganda have trivial doctrines but may unfortunately be the wave of the future.  Many people are fed up with official science which leaves a gap between the scientific community and the masses.  The cults have been filling in this gap with their garbage and have been steadily making converts to belief in alien UFO propaganda.  One day their lies may become official science.  Institutions are vulnerable to their poison.

As a matter of fact, evidence shows that this is how heliocentrism became accepted in the sixteenth and seventeenth centuries. 

 

So you are saying that there is evidence to show that "official science" is directly related to why people believed the sun was the center of the universe / solar system?

Also, to clarify for me... you do *not* accept the fact that we landed on the moon am I correct? (Note that I am clarifying, not trying to bash anyone... your initial statement was unclear to me. It would appear that you don't and are offended by this and other ideas, however I'd like to ask before I assume this.)
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Re: Question For Dogplatter: The Interdimensional Hypothesis
« Reply #19 on: January 09, 2008, 01:00:37 AM »
Optimus, you really don't want to get into it with this guy. If you thought Tom Bishop was bad, you've got a shock coming.
if i remember, austria is an old, dis-used name for what is now Germany.
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Re: Question For Dogplatter: The Interdimensional Hypothesis
« Reply #20 on: January 09, 2008, 01:27:12 AM »
It's impossible to argue with a close-minded fundamentalist. Read the first 9 pages of the "Nuclear Weapons Don't Exist" thread, for example.

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Re: Question For Dogplatter: The Interdimensional Hypothesis
« Reply #21 on: January 09, 2008, 02:28:55 AM »
I figured as much. Anyone that names themselves after a group of Greek terrorists is probably a bit of a nut job anyway ;D
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Re: Question For Dogplatter: The Interdimensional Hypothesis
« Reply #22 on: January 09, 2008, 05:02:03 AM »
As to UFO contactees of the 1940's and 1950's, cults which believe their propaganda have trivial doctrines but may unfortunately be the wave of the future.  Many people are fed up with official science which leaves a gap between the scientific community and the masses.  The cults have been filling in this gap with their garbage and have been steadily making converts to belief in alien UFO propaganda.  One day their lies may become official science.  Institutions are vulnerable to their poison. 

Modern science, based more on "authority" than fact, is a heinous violation of the original spirit of science - Zetetic spirit. That is to say, impartial, grounded in empiricism, open and transparent, available to all, and without any hidden agenda.
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Re: Question For Dogplatter: The Interdimensional Hypothesis
« Reply #23 on: January 09, 2008, 07:44:16 PM »
As to UFO contactees of the 1940's and 1950's, cults which believe their propaganda have trivial doctrines but may unfortunately be the wave of the future.  Many people are fed up with official science which leaves a gap between the scientific community and the masses.  The cults have been filling in this gap with their garbage and have been steadily making converts to belief in alien UFO propaganda.  One day their lies may become official science.  Institutions are vulnerable to their poison. 

Modern science, based more on "authority" than fact, is a heinous violation of the original spirit of science - Zetetic spirit. That is to say, impartial, grounded in empiricism, open and transparent, available to all, and without any hidden agenda.

I don't know if that's an entirely fair statement. Modern science has its good people just as modern Zetetics has its extremists that have their own agendas rather than the science at heart. (I'm implying vice versa as well).

In my personal experience, I've yet to come accross any scientists that are basing their experiments or ideas on authority rather than facts and especially their own data. I know it exists, but that's almost a thousand right there, with many thousands more obviously. So I wouldn't go so far as to make that a blanket statement.

Also.. what the heck was it you wanted sources for? I'm so wiped out from the job I was on. I've forgotten. I'm very sorry - I would never blow someone off on purpose. Many apologies.

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Re: Question For Dogplatter: The Interdimensional Hypothesis
« Reply #24 on: January 10, 2008, 05:23:32 AM »
I don't know if that's an entirely fair statement. Modern science has its good people just as modern Zetetics has its extremists that have their own agendas rather than the science at heart. (I'm implying vice versa as well).

In my personal experience, I've yet to come accross any scientists that are basing their experiments or ideas on authority rather than facts and especially their own data. I know it exists, but that's almost a thousand right there, with many thousands more obviously. So I wouldn't go so far as to make that a blanket statement.

Fair enough, I'm not ruling out decent independant scientists who happen to be Round Earthers - but it's my honest opinion that the scientific establishment which has propagated the ideas of Newton, Copernicus, etc., does have a hidden agenda.

The bulk of modern science is authority-based in the sense that the vast majority of people are disinclined to actually investigate claims made by the scientific establishment, and purely believe them based on the "expert" status of members of the science Con. Science has actually become more like a religion than anything - proclamations about reality doled out to an unsuspecting populace by a small elite who are rarely questioned on the major issues (except by other members of that elite).

Also.. what the heck was it you wanted sources for? I'm so wiped out from the job I was on. I've forgotten. I'm very sorry - I would never blow someone off on purpose. Many apologies.

No worries. I wondered if you'd share your sources on the Hampden wager/Bedford Level Experiment?
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Re: Question For Dogplatter: The Interdimensional Hypothesis
« Reply #25 on: January 10, 2008, 06:20:03 PM »
Ah! yes ok... I'll get those together and post them up here for you this weekend. Have to do a complete new store install tonight and part of tomorrow. Not looking forward to it. But hey, when the grant money runs out... I hate loans. Rather do it on my own if I can.

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Re: Question For Dogplatter: The Interdimensional Hypothesis
« Reply #26 on: January 19, 2008, 10:16:26 PM »


At least I understand why you say and act the way you do in these forums. The more I read about your name-reference to this group... the more it astonishes me that you would choose this name. If you actually hold some of the ideology of an organization such as this was... wow... no wonder you believe in all sorts of conspiracies and outlandish theories.

Very saddening.
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Re: Question For Dogplatter: The Interdimensional Hypothesis
« Reply #27 on: January 20, 2008, 10:31:26 AM »
This guy is insane

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Re: Question For Dogplatter: The Interdimensional Hypothesis
« Reply #28 on: January 20, 2008, 01:02:15 PM »

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Re: Question For Dogplatter: The Interdimensional Hypothesis
« Reply #29 on: January 20, 2008, 01:42:29 PM »
Blah blah blah Phoenix, thunderbirds, jesus, loch ness monster, bigfoot, CIA

Thats all that I hear when you talk