ALL flat earthers: Draw your earth!

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Re: ALL flat earthers: Draw your earth!
« Reply #60 on: January 02, 2008, 06:54:42 PM »
Chris's map begs a question. Why would airplane flight plans be curved on a flat earth? In a flat earth, standard cartesian geometry would apply, and the shortest path would be straight on a map? On a sphere, the distance is closer with those particular curves. More conspiracy?

Well, in school what are you taught? That the Earth is round. This continues on through flight school until you become a pilot. Of course, you wouldn't fly a completely different direction to get to your destination, and in line with the magnetic dealings of the flat Earth, east and west are curved.

Well, the flight times would be predicted to be shorter to, if the assumption was that the Earth is round.  But the flights on a Flat Earth would be longer, much longer.  Hasn't anyone noticed that their three hour flight is taking seven hours?
No because a certain hour flight goes a known distance. At a known speed. So a 3 hour flight is a 3 hour flight.

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Re: ALL flat earthers: Draw your earth!
« Reply #61 on: January 02, 2008, 10:43:00 PM »
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Re: ALL flat earthers: Draw your earth!
« Reply #62 on: January 03, 2008, 12:48:44 AM »
Under the assumption that the Earth is flat, either my speedometer lies to me, or every time I step into a plane the government modifies my memories. Take your pick.

So fix your goddamn speedometer... make one yourself and rig it to the plane and see if there are discrepancies.

Here are two solutions that would solve your problems with finality;

1) Wind. If the wind blows against you at 50km/h, you're flying much slower despite what your speedometer tells you unless it's a GPS system. Although, you being a upstanding FE'er, you don't use GPS because it lies. So being restricted to an analog speedometer, you'd have to continue checking with stations on the ground to double check the wind direction and speed.

2) You're not flying length, you're flying an arc length... 15% further than what you believe you're flying since you're assuming you're flying a straight line, when in fact its a long arc.

Please report back with new information.

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Re: ALL flat earthers: Draw your earth!
« Reply #63 on: January 03, 2008, 07:41:42 AM »
fshy isn't an FEer.

But 1 and 2 are good points nonetheless.
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Re: ALL flat earthers: Draw your earth!
« Reply #64 on: January 03, 2008, 07:44:08 AM »
spdomtrs ar only accurat on th day thy ar mad, anyway.
if i remember, austria is an old, dis-used name for what is now Germany.
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Re: ALL flat earthers: Draw your earth!
« Reply #65 on: January 03, 2008, 09:39:37 AM »
Under the assumption that the Earth is flat, either my speedometer lies to me, or every time I step into a plane the government modifies my memories. Take your pick.

So fix your goddamn speedometer... make one yourself and rig it to the plane and see if there are discrepancies.

Here are two solutions that would solve your problems with finality;

1) Wind. If the wind blows against you at 50km/h, you're flying much slower despite what your speedometer tells you unless it's a GPS system. Although, you being a upstanding FE'er, you don't use GPS because it lies. So being restricted to an analog speedometer, you'd have to continue checking with stations on the ground to double check the wind direction and speed.

2) You're not flying length, you're flying an arc length... 15% further than what you believe you're flying since you're assuming you're flying a straight line, when in fact its a long arc.

Please report back with new information.
If the wind slows you down, then the speedometer will show a lower speed.
When you are flying, riding or walking east or west, you are travelling in a HORIZONTAL circle.
When you are travelling north or south, then you are travelling horizontally in a straight line.
If you travel south-east, then you measure the distance of 'south' and the degree of 'east'. The equator should become the standard measurement for east and western degree, therefore it is possible to travel 'south 4,874 miles--east 82 degrees'. THIS is flat-earthism! (: The measurement of north south would be from north pole to Antartica and the equator can remain the same with its' 360 degrees. Seeeeeeeeee we can work together rezzzz & fezzzzz . Ohhhhhh I'm tired and yawning.
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Re: ALL flat earthers: Draw your earth!
« Reply #66 on: January 03, 2008, 01:02:42 PM »
Under the assumption that the Earth is flat, either my speedometer lies to me, or every time I step into a plane the government modifies my memories. Take your pick.

So fix your goddamn speedometer... make one yourself and rig it to the plane and see if there are discrepancies.

Here are two solutions that would solve your problems with finality;

1) Wind. If the wind blows against you at 50km/h, you're flying much slower despite what your speedometer tells you unless it's a GPS system. Although, you being a upstanding FE'er, you don't use GPS because it lies. So being restricted to an analog speedometer, you'd have to continue checking with stations on the ground to double check the wind direction and speed.

2) You're not flying length, you're flying an arc length... 15% further than what you believe you're flying since you're assuming you're flying a straight line, when in fact its a long arc.

Please report back with new information.

Relax mate. I'm an RE'er making fun of things...

My point was that if a FE was there, how could I arrive at the proper destination at the proper time, with the speed and with curved flightpaths I was at? Therefore, a repeated and easily observable effect would be noted about airplane delays and mislocations. Wind wouldn't affect that all the time, only some of the time. There aren't any discrepancies always observed. So actually, we agree.

To Raa:

1. Not with an old analog speedometer

2. And the coriolis effect?

3. Very funny.

4. Try it.

5. Not very specific. However, you may have been tired, so I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and give you a chance to clear things up.
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Re: ALL flat earthers: Draw your earth!
« Reply #67 on: January 03, 2008, 01:08:31 PM »
Look at the United nations flag. That is a flat earth on it. The tropic of capricorn is much bigger than the tropic of cancer, and so is the antartic much bigger than the arctic. Measurements would have to conform to this before hoping into the cockpit. Don't talk about fe when you're a re. fe is new. everybudy knows about re. All speedometers conform to wind, and you know that.
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Re: ALL flat earthers: Draw your earth!
« Reply #68 on: January 03, 2008, 01:15:44 PM »
1. Including engine based analog ones? I doubt it. Tell me, when you lift your car into the air and run the engine on an engine based speedometer, the car registers 0 MPH? Nice.

2. Actually, FE is old. As in very. Try ancient civilizations for starters. RE is far newer.

3. If that was so with your tropics, the coriolis effect would have the greatest effect on the Antarctic, and the least on the North Pole. Which is not observed. Which would have severe impacts on flights, and so on. Are all pilots part of this plot? That includes several FE'ers here, you know.
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Re: ALL flat earthers: Draw your earth!
« Reply #69 on: January 03, 2008, 01:25:32 PM »
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fe is so old that it was the beginning. as a matter of fact in the beginning the earth was vast, and it still is.
no , there would be a greater amount of coriolis effect around the tropic of cancer. it would just cost more to fly in the southern hemisphere. why do you think that most feul operated vehicules are north of the equator??????? because it is a smaller cicle and countries and cities are closer concerning occidental spendatures!!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: ALL flat earthers: Draw your earth!
« Reply #70 on: January 03, 2008, 02:15:29 PM »
Oh it would cost more than money. It would cost time. I don't recall all flights from Australia to South America taking an extra 3 hours, do you? Such a discrepancy would easily be noted, you would agree? So why isn't such a discrepancy noted?
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Re: ALL flat earthers: Draw your earth!
« Reply #71 on: January 03, 2008, 02:22:03 PM »
did you consider the time zones? and were your measurements perfectly calculated BY YOU BEFORE YOU LEFT. think again, because this happened to cia security the day before the jfk assassination -that's why they wern't there- some one messed up their return schedule for the jfk parade ON PURPOSE. another conspiracy. but you're a re- you love conspiracy. and don't try to tell me that fe is a conspiracy. we're not in the media.
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Re: ALL flat earthers: Draw your earth!
« Reply #72 on: January 03, 2008, 02:24:33 PM »
Oh. Of course. I should have known that time zones affect stopwatches. Fail.
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Re: ALL flat earthers: Draw your earth!
« Reply #73 on: January 03, 2008, 02:30:43 PM »
you did make a few mistakes while trying to explain some equipment, and that did cause you some disrespect, though no one mentioned it. I don't use equipment, so don't try and make me look bad. I can tell when a rock or mountain will be blown into outer space thank you.
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Re: ALL flat earthers: Draw your earth!
« Reply #74 on: January 03, 2008, 02:33:31 PM »
What? How does that affect anything. And I made no error with equipment so far you have pointed out... So you acknowledge stopwatches are not affected by time zones? And when did mountains get blown into outer space? You're becoming less and less coherent.
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Re: ALL flat earthers: Draw your earth!
« Reply #75 on: January 03, 2008, 02:36:09 PM »
that's right; I'm leaving you
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Re: ALL flat earthers: Draw your earth!
« Reply #76 on: January 03, 2008, 02:40:07 PM »
...and the last vestige of credibility/reason your audience perceived...
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Re: ALL flat earthers: Draw your earth!
« Reply #77 on: January 03, 2008, 02:45:29 PM »
intelligent audience but non the less 'my enemy.
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Re: ALL flat earthers: Draw your earth!
« Reply #78 on: January 03, 2008, 02:57:57 PM »
1. Including engine based analog ones? I doubt it. Tell me, when you lift your car into the air and run the engine on an engine based speedometer, the car registers 0 MPH? Nice.
Speeds are not taken from a car's engine.  They are done from the transmission.  Just so you know.


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Re: ALL flat earthers: Draw your earth!
« Reply #79 on: January 03, 2008, 03:02:41 PM »
i hope that 'FISHY94' believes that this last post was for her, though he might be a him. fishy94 sounds like a girls name. what was it?? a fish called 'desire?
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Re: ALL flat earthers: Draw your earth!
« Reply #80 on: January 03, 2008, 03:04:49 PM »
They are, engy (I knew you'd point that out :D). I was just making the point.

Raa: You need to retake Trolling 101. You're not supposed to make it so obvious.
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Re: ALL flat earthers: Draw your earth!
« Reply #81 on: January 03, 2008, 03:06:26 PM »
shit happens
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