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Tristan Lachman

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Effects of the moon on living creatures
« on: December 14, 2007, 05:26:05 PM »
I think this is a good topic to debate and it offers experiments that anyone can do at home. To prove that the moon is not reflecting the light of the sun, we can show that her light has different properties.

    Full moons are traditionally associated with temporal insomnia, insanity (hence the terms lunacy and lunatic) and various magical phenomena such as lycanthropy.

    The light of the moon is moist, cold, and powerfully septic; and animal and nitrogenous vegetable substances. exposed to it soon show symptoms of putrefaction. Living creatures by long exposure to the moon's rays become morbidly affected. It is a common thing on board vessels going through tropical regions, for written or printed notices to be issued, prohibiting persons from sleeping on deck exposed to full moonlight, experience having proved that such exposure is often followed by injurious consequences.

M. Arago has been in the practice of delivering each season at the Observatoire, a course of Lectures of a popular kind, which are attended by all classes of well informed persons, including ladies in considerable numbers. Here is a simple experiment that he proposed:

    If we put in an exposed position two pieces of meat, and one of them be subjected to the moon's rays, while the other is protected from them by a screen or a cover, the former will be tainted with putrefaction much sooner than the other.
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Re: Effects of the moon on living creatures
« Reply #1 on: December 14, 2007, 06:37:39 PM »
So by covering your meat and reducing the airflow around it, it will not spoil as fast.  Wow!
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Re: Effects of the moon on living creatures
« Reply #2 on: December 14, 2007, 10:12:18 PM »
Quote from: youguysareretatdslol on December 14, 2007, 06:37:39 PM
So by covering your meat and reducing the airflow around it, it will not spoil as fast.  Wow!

I have to agree here. Look as a youngster I spent countless night out under the open stars at our farm in Missouri. I literally used to spend my summers with a fishing pole and 3 or 4 lures, my fire bag, an iron skillet, hunting knife,  double-quilt blanket and a head cushion... and just go camp out all over the farm (it was 500 acres. I had plenty of room, down in a river valley and amongst the hills).

I obviously spent numerous nights under a full moon, and countless nights under every other type of moon, and the only thing I ever remember getting from it was a nice peaceful evening by the camp fire I'd just cooked dinner on.

I don't believe I've ever suffered anything due to the moon other than perhaps an emotional sense of wonder as a kid!

Besides, couldn't the moons gravitational effects on the earth have more to do with effects on people than the quality of "its" light?
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Tristan Lachman

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Re: Effects of the moon on living creatures
« Reply #3 on: December 15, 2007, 12:58:39 PM »
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So by covering your meat and reducing the airflow around it, it will not spoil as fast.  Wow!

The screen can be one metre or more above the meat, as long as it blocks the moon's ray.
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Re: Effects of the moon on living creatures
« Reply #4 on: December 15, 2007, 02:15:18 PM »
well what about the reflected light off the moon changes properties ?

for e.g when light bounces off the earth it changes frequency, so maybe its changing something when it bounces off the moon to do this effect ?

i don't know just something to think of maybe
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Re: Effects of the moon on living creatures
« Reply #5 on: December 15, 2007, 03:07:29 PM »
The only place I have found a reference to moonlight being septic - to any degree - is in Earth Not a GLobe - Chapter XI.
Out of curiosity, I have searched the web via several search engines, and via the campus Library system and have uncovered nothing regarding the moon's light having septic effects. Since this is such an easy experiment to perform, I will try it out myself next full moon we get that I'm not swamped. I'd think our upcoming I could do so.

There are many, many studies performed trying to define whether or not the moon causes an effect on people. Most of them concentrating on the fact that since the moon causes tidal / gravitational issues, and we are such a high percentage of water ourselves, it would make sense if this were the case - however there was no tangible evidence to prove any of the experiments in the end.

The only references to moonlight I could find was the possibility that like anyone - there are those that are susceptible to types of light affecting their mood. Therefore, whereas one person is delighted in the daytime, and depressed by the moonlight, another person would be just the opposite. Whereas Sunlight promotes serotonin in most people, the lack of it by the moon shouldn't be reason to assume depression / bad connotations.

Really, the only credibility I can lend this theory is that we are not nocturnal creatures, we are emotionally sensitive, and some people might be affected by the moon's light as it may seem foreboding to them. On the long stretch of things, I might go so far as to extend my willingness to accept further investigation to the earth / moon / sun alignment at full and new moons regarding the tidal effect that might cause some sort of mood behaviours related to highly sensitive organs and glands in highly sensitive persons.

My 2 cents anyway. Good fun ;D


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Re: Effects of the moon on living creatures
« Reply #6 on: December 17, 2007, 12:37:56 AM »
Looks like Dec. 24th is the next full moon. I'll see if I can perform the experiment, but I might not due to family gatherings on the night before Christmas. The next one is January 22nd I think it was so either way, not too much longer and I'll have the results.

I'll make sure it gets full exposure throughout the night with one half covered by complete shadow at say 2 feet?

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Tristan Lachman

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Re: Effects of the moon on living creatures
« Reply #7 on: December 17, 2007, 12:02:43 PM »
Thanks for trying the experiment.
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Re: Effects of the moon on living creatures
« Reply #8 on: December 17, 2007, 06:17:14 PM »
Quote from: Tristan Lachman on December 14, 2007, 05:26:05 PM
I think this is a good topic to debate and it offers experiments that anyone can do at home. To prove that the moon is not reflecting the light of the sun, we can show that her light has different properties.

    Full moons are traditionally associated with temporal insomnia, insanity (hence the terms lunacy and lunatic) and various magical phenomena such as lycanthropy.

    The light of the moon is moist, cold, and powerfully septic; and animal and nitrogenous vegetable substances. exposed to it soon show symptoms of putrefaction. Living creatures by long exposure to the moon's rays become morbidly affected. It is a common thing on board vessels going through tropical regions, for written or printed notices to be issued, prohibiting persons from sleeping on deck exposed to full moonlight, experience having proved that such exposure is often followed by injurious consequences.

M. Arago has been in the practice of delivering each season at the Observatoire, a course of Lectures of a popular kind, which are attended by all classes of well informed persons, including ladies in considerable numbers. Here is a simple experiment that he proposed:

    If we put in an exposed position two pieces of meat, and one of them be subjected to the moon's rays, while the other is protected from them by a screen or a cover, the former will be tainted with putrefaction much sooner than the other.


This is, hands down, the most fascinating post these boards have ever seen.
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Re: Effects of the moon on living creatures
« Reply #9 on: December 17, 2007, 09:10:51 PM »
RE'ers are all werewolves.
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Re: Effects of the moon on living creatures
« Reply #10 on: December 17, 2007, 10:53:22 PM »
Quote from: GG-Xtreme on December 17, 2007, 09:10:51 PM
RE'ers are all werewolves.

Yeah well.. there's nothing quite like disembowelling an FE'er every so often ... what can I say?
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Re: Effects of the moon on living creatures
« Reply #11 on: December 18, 2007, 12:00:19 PM »
Quote from: Optimus Prime on December 14, 2007, 10:12:18 PM
Quote from: youguysareretatdslol on December 14, 2007, 06:37:39 PM
So by covering your meat and reducing the airflow around it, it will not spoil as fast.  Wow!

I have to agree here. Look as a youngster I spent countless night out under the open stars at our farm in Missouri. I literally used to spend my summers with a fishing pole and 3 or 4 lures, my fire bag, an iron skillet, hunting knife,  double-quilt blanket and a head cushion... and just go camp out all over the farm (it was 500 acres. I had plenty of room, down in a river valley and amongst the hills).

I obviously spent numerous nights under a full moon, and countless nights under every other type of moon, and the only thing I ever remember getting from it was a nice peaceful evening by the camp fire I'd just cooked dinner on.

I don't believe I've ever suffered anything due to the moon other than perhaps an emotional sense of wonder as a kid!

Besides, couldn't the moons gravitational effects on the earth have more to do with effects on people than the quality of "its" light?
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you are wrong.  even george w. bush believes that the warm rays from a full moon causes the dead to rise from their graves.  he has personally decapitated several zombies posing as slow-moving white house tourists.
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Re: Effects of the moon on living creatures
« Reply #12 on: December 18, 2007, 01:39:23 PM »
Quote from: cpt_bthimes on December 18, 2007, 12:00:19 PM
Quote from: Optimus Prime on December 14, 2007, 10:12:18 PM
Quote from: youguysareretatdslol on December 14, 2007, 06:37:39 PM
So by covering your meat and reducing the airflow around it, it will not spoil as fast.  Wow!

I have to agree here. Look as a youngster I spent countless night out under the open stars at our farm in Missouri. I literally used to spend my summers with a fishing pole and 3 or 4 lures, my fire bag, an iron skillet, hunting knife,  double-quilt blanket and a head cushion... and just go camp out all over the farm (it was 500 acres. I had plenty of room, down in a river valley and amongst the hills).

I obviously spent numerous nights under a full moon, and countless nights under every other type of moon, and the only thing I ever remember getting from it was a nice peaceful evening by the camp fire I'd just cooked dinner on.

I don't believe I've ever suffered anything due to the moon other than perhaps an emotional sense of wonder as a kid!

Besides, couldn't the moons gravitational effects on the earth have more to do with effects on people than the quality of "its" light?
OP


you are wrong.  even george w. bush believes that the warm rays from a full moon causes the dead to rise from their graves.  he has personally decapitated several zombies posing as slow-moving white house tourists.

That explains your constant verbal farts.
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Re: Effects of the moon on living creatures
« Reply #13 on: December 18, 2007, 03:24:52 PM »
Quote from: Midnight on December 18, 2007, 01:39:23 PM
Quote from: cpt_bthimes on December 18, 2007, 12:00:19 PM
Quote from: Optimus Prime on December 14, 2007, 10:12:18 PM
Quote from: youguysareretatdslol on December 14, 2007, 06:37:39 PM
So by covering your meat and reducing the airflow around it, it will not spoil as fast.  Wow!

I have to agree here. Look as a youngster I spent countless night out under the open stars at our farm in Missouri. I literally used to spend my summers with a fishing pole and 3 or 4 lures, my fire bag, an iron skillet, hunting knife,  double-quilt blanket and a head cushion... and just go camp out all over the farm (it was 500 acres. I had plenty of room, down in a river valley and amongst the hills).

I obviously spent numerous nights under a full moon, and countless nights under every other type of moon, and the only thing I ever remember getting from it was a nice peaceful evening by the camp fire I'd just cooked dinner on.

I don't believe I've ever suffered anything due to the moon other than perhaps an emotional sense of wonder as a kid!

Besides, couldn't the moons gravitational effects on the earth have more to do with effects on people than the quality of "its" light?
OP


you are wrong.  even george w. bush believes that the warm rays from a full moon causes the dead to rise from their graves.  he has personally decapitated several zombies posing as slow-moving white house tourists.

That explains your constant verbal farts.

I've never heard of such a condition. It sounds fatal.
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Re: Effects of the moon on living creatures
« Reply #14 on: December 18, 2007, 03:36:01 PM »
Bill-O on Faux. Birds of a feather.

It also involves plastic wrap and a few selected candles from $1 General.
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Re: Effects of the moon on living creatures
« Reply #15 on: December 18, 2007, 05:00:02 PM »
Quote from: Midnight on December 18, 2007, 03:36:01 PM
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It also involves plastic wrap and a few selected candles from $1 General.

Sounds kinky... ;D
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Re: Effects of the moon on living creatures
« Reply #16 on: December 18, 2007, 05:09:25 PM »
Quote from: Midnight on December 17, 2007, 06:17:14 PM
This is, hands down, the most fascinating post these boards have ever seen.

It's from E:NaG. The chapter on the different properties of moon and sunlight is probably one of the most awesome in the whole book.

What's even more awesome is that careful scrutiny of footnotes reveals none other than Charles Dickens as having conducted experiments of Zetetic science to demonstrate that moonlight is cold.

Yep - there's a good chance Dickens was a Flat Earther. Pretty cool, eh?
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Re: Effects of the moon on living creatures
« Reply #17 on: December 18, 2007, 05:45:33 PM »
Quote from: Optimus Prime on December 15, 2007, 03:07:29 PM
The only place I have found a reference to moonlight being septic - to any degree - is in Earth Not a GLobe - Chapter XI.

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« Reply #18 on: December 21, 2007, 07:52:15 PM »
Quote from: Optimus Prime on December 18, 2007, 05:45:33 PM
Quote from: Optimus Prime on December 15, 2007, 03:07:29 PM
The only place I have found a reference to moonlight being septic - to any degree - is in this thread 2 posts ago.


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Re: Effects of the moon on living creatures
« Reply #19 on: December 23, 2007, 07:50:07 AM »
Quote from: me25 on December 21, 2007, 07:52:15 PM
Quote from: Optimus Prime on December 18, 2007, 05:45:33 PM
Quote from: Optimus Prime on December 15, 2007, 03:07:29 PM
The only place I have found a reference to moonlight being septic - to any degree - is in this thread 2 posts ago.



Why are you misquoting me? It's nothing more than an annoyance when someone alters the statement of another. My post was the 3rd post in this thread... What's your issue with this?

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Re: Effects of the moon on living creatures
« Reply #20 on: December 26, 2007, 03:48:43 AM »
Ok, so - obviously the 24th has come and gone - with the problems of a long drive to achieve the family rounds for Christmas, I was indeed *not* able to perform the experiment on the day of the full Moon.

So, I pose a question:

Is it acceptable for this experiment to be performed a few days after the full moon? When it is still in near-full state, or large-gibbous?

I'd be happy to do it tonight if that works for everyone, If not, I will be happy to wait until January's full moon.

Let me know what your thought's are and I'll do whatever is necessary to keep it on the up and up. I will take video clips and some pictures throughout the night to show what the weather conditions were like, so there's no trouble with cloud cover, or if it was in fact going on all night long, etc.

Plus, I was thinking earlier on the long drive home... should we put it in an enclosure to reduce the possibility of airborne contaminations? I have ready access to all sorts of plastics and other building materials - I could easily build a transparent, sealed container that should work fine for this - or do you think it would alter the results from the original experiment?

Thanks!
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Re: Effects of the moon on living creatures
« Reply #21 on: December 28, 2007, 09:58:02 AM »
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Re: Effects of the moon on living creatures
« Reply #22 on: January 15, 2008, 09:51:34 AM »
Quote from: Optimus Prime on December 26, 2007, 03:48:43 AM
Is it acceptable for this experiment to be performed a few days after the full moon? When it is still in near-full state, or large-gibbous?

Sorry if I am a bit late. I am not an expert on the subject, but you would more than likely get enough moonlight.
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Re: Effects of the moon on living creatures
« Reply #23 on: January 15, 2008, 08:05:39 PM »
I would have thought so also without question. I however am wanting the input of those interested, so as not to cause any issues with the results of the experiment. I don't want there to be anyone disappointed with how the experiment is carried out, etc.

Thanks for the input and I am keeping it in mind. Anyone else at all?

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Re: Effects of the moon on living creatures
« Reply #24 on: January 16, 2008, 05:16:57 AM »
The moon makes women crazy every month. This clearly shows they are animals.
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Re: Effects of the moon on living creatures
« Reply #25 on: January 16, 2008, 06:02:11 AM »
Quote from: Althalus on January 16, 2008, 05:16:57 AM
The moon makes women crazy every month. This clearly shows they are animals.

And most men salivate and get various other discomforts when one of them bends over in front of them... especially if they are dressed 'appropriately'... This clearly shows men are animals as well.... not too proud to say, I am most definitely an animal - especially if she has metal involved in her outfit... if she's wearing a collar.. it's all over.
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Re: Effects of the moon on living creatures
« Reply #26 on: January 17, 2008, 11:13:48 PM »
Yeah, it's a tidal thing....apparrently.
Menstruation cycles sure seem to be tied to the lunar ones.
That's why I'm always a diplomat for those few days and still an animal when she's game.

No matter how much or how often you eat that; there's always more.

In certain cultures females are proscribed from preparing certain foods (canning, etc.)during that "time"; ostensebly, due to rapid spoilage concerns.
on that note; I'm curious to read the results of the proposed experiment on the meat spoilage rates.

There's nothing like a good moontan to give you that healthy nocturnal look.
Hey...... if, (in theory) direct sunlight burns vampyres to a crispy, crackly crunch; what effect (if any) would moonlight have on the undead?
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Re: Effects of the moon on living creatures
« Reply #27 on: January 19, 2008, 07:44:38 AM »
Hey... good point.
Well, not for certain on the whole full moon deal so I've decided to wait for thext one anyway since it's not *that* long until the next one rolls around :) That way nobody can really have a cow over the results.

I've got all my stuff set aside and waiting...

 - 1 lb. ground beef (figured around 95% so we have a little bit of fat in there for good measure rather than ground chuck)
 - Nice airy box I've cut legs into - forms sort of a "footstool" or small "table" for a good solid shadow and good airflow.
 - The top of my very black car so we have no worries about reflected / refracted light from the Moon.
 - Trusty digital camera to take pictures of the setup, and before and after pictures.

Kinda looking forward to it really. Be nice to do a simple and fun experiment that I don't have to *constantly* monitor. Just sit back, relax, and step out every so often to make sure the shadow stays in the same relative position so that it doesn't get to the shadowed part at any point.

- Optimus
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