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paradiselost

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Challenge the Round Earth Model
« on: November 18, 2007, 03:50:50 PM »
It seems that a lot of time on this forum the RE's try and prove the FE's wrong.

However, since the accepted model in the world today is that of a round earth, shouldn't the onus be on the FE's to come up with arguments against the RE model?

just a general musing
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Re: Challenge the Round Earth Model
« Reply #1 on: November 18, 2007, 03:56:12 PM »
Quote from: paradiselost on November 18, 2007, 03:50:50 PM
It seems that a lot of time on this forum the RE's try and prove the FE's wrong.
Uh, you mean the RE'ers are trying to prove the FE model wrong, ending up proving themselves wrong. The FE theory may have holes, but the efforts by RE'ers just make the holes even bigger.

Quote from: paradiselost on November 18, 2007, 03:50:50 PM
However, since the accepted model in the world today is that of a round earth, shouldn't the onus be on the FE's to come up with arguments against the RE model?
There are many arguments.
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paradiselost

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Re: Challenge the Round Earth Model
« Reply #2 on: November 18, 2007, 03:57:35 PM »
but lots of the recent threads in this forum are started by RE's saying to FE's whats wrong with their model...not the other way around.

im just saying for once i'd like to be able to explain something rather than challenge it
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Re: Challenge the Round Earth Model
« Reply #3 on: November 18, 2007, 03:59:02 PM »
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It seems that a lot of time on this forum the RE's try and prove the FE's wrong.

However, since the accepted model in the world today is that of a round earth, shouldn't the onus be on the FE's to come up with arguments against the RE model?

just a general musing

No. You came here an sought us out for confrontation. We did not seek you out.

On this forum the pretense is that the earth is flat. Therefore the onus is on you to prove that it is actually round. The onus is also on you to research the Flat Earth Literature instead of constantly demanding proofs or explanations for various phenomenas.

We are under no obligation to prove that our model is correct. It is already correct by virtue of home turf. The onus is entirely on you to prove that your hypothetical model of the earth is correct.

So, what experimental evidence do you have for us demonstrating that the earth is actually a sphere?
« Last Edit: November 18, 2007, 04:01:55 PM by Tom Bishop »
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paradiselost

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Re: Challenge the Round Earth Model
« Reply #4 on: November 18, 2007, 04:01:21 PM »
If its true then why do all prominent scientists believe the earth is round?
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Re: Challenge the Round Earth Model
« Reply #5 on: November 18, 2007, 04:02:20 PM »
Quote from: paradiselost on November 18, 2007, 04:01:21 PM
If its true then why do all prominent scientists believe the earth is round?

Because it's what their first grade teachers told them. Duh.

Still waiting on that evidence. How can I prove experimentally that the earth is actually a globe?
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paradiselost

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Re: Challenge the Round Earth Model
« Reply #6 on: November 18, 2007, 04:03:31 PM »
who told the first grade teachers about it? their first grade teachers? surely if we follow this line back SOMEBODY of scientific nature would have told people that the earth is in fact round....
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Re: Challenge the Round Earth Model
« Reply #7 on: November 18, 2007, 04:04:35 PM »
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No. You came here an sought us out for confrontation. We did not seek you out.

 He's simply asking that you try to proves our theories wrong for once, instead of coming up with your own explanations.
If your theories are truly correct, then ours must be wrong.
Show us how they are wrong.
I'll start you off, how is the fact that the "midnight sun" is completely logical in the RE model, yet you still haven't come up with a real explanation for it in your FE model?
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Re: Challenge the Round Earth Model
« Reply #8 on: November 18, 2007, 04:07:04 PM »
Quote from: Roundearther4life on November 18, 2007, 04:04:35 PM
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No. You came here an sought us out for confrontation. We did not seek you out.

 He's simply asking that you try to proves our theories wrong for once, instead of coming up with your own explanations.
He already proved the REers' theories wrong. They just don't seem to grasp.

Quote from: Roundearther4life on November 18, 2007, 04:04:35 PM
If your theories are truly correct, then ours must be wrong.
...Which is why you RE'ers should stop trying...

Quote from: Roundearther4life on November 18, 2007, 04:04:35 PM
Show us how they are wrong.
E:NaG.

Quote from: Roundearther4life on November 18, 2007, 04:04:35 PM
I'll start you off, how is the fact that the "midnight sun" is completely logical in the RE model, yet you still haven't come up with a real explanation for it in your FE model?
Ice crystals.
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Re: Challenge the Round Earth Model
« Reply #9 on: November 18, 2007, 04:08:11 PM »
any proof that these ice crystals exist??
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Roundearther4life

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Re: Challenge the Round Earth Model
« Reply #10 on: November 18, 2007, 04:08:32 PM »
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How can I prove experimentally that the earth is actually a globe?
Build your own rocket ship, blast yourself into space, and take a look at the earth.
Actually if you're still alive in the mere future, NASA will do it for you. http://www.space.com/spacetourism/
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paradiselost

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Re: Challenge the Round Earth Model
« Reply #11 on: November 18, 2007, 04:09:45 PM »
so why would people be actively promoting something which will reveal the conspiracy?

why hasn't NASA shut them down?
« Last Edit: November 18, 2007, 04:11:18 PM by paradiselost »
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eric bloedow

Re: Challenge the Round Earth Model
« Reply #12 on: November 18, 2007, 04:10:57 PM »
i find it interesting that most of the "literature" on your list is actually PARODIES and humor making FUN of FErs! someone making JOKES about YOU somehow proves you are right?

you said "the pretence is that the earth is flat". wrong word, unless you mean YOU are PRETENDING!

"already correct by default"? so you declare victory BEFORE THE EVENT STARTS?!

your model has MANY flaws, ALL of which you try to fill in with NONSENCE like "universal accellerator" and "shadow object" and "the conspiracy".
ALL of your so-called "proofs" are MISinterpretations of observations made by other people who had aready made up their minds!

in other words, Tom once again says "i am right because i am right because i am right", ad infinitum, and thinks this is PROOF!?
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Re: Challenge the Round Earth Model
« Reply #13 on: November 18, 2007, 04:11:07 PM »
Jack-, I said, REAL EXPLANATION
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Re: Challenge the Round Earth Model
« Reply #14 on: November 18, 2007, 04:12:46 PM »
Quote from: Roundearther4life on November 18, 2007, 04:11:07 PM
Jack-, I said, REAL EXPLANATION

i still have never seen proof of an ice crystal which distorts the atmosphere to allow the midnight sun to occur...
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Roundearther4life

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Re: Challenge the Round Earth Model
« Reply #15 on: November 18, 2007, 04:15:02 PM »
Quote from: paradiselost on November 18, 2007, 04:09:45 PM
so why would people be actively promoting something which will reveal the conspiracy?

why hasn't NASA shut them down?

Exactly, so Tom, what's your thoughts on this?

You know we're not "making this up", the source is cited right there for you to see.

Any input on this would be great, because you seem to disappear as soon as the thread becomes hard to argue.
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Re: Challenge the Round Earth Model
« Reply #16 on: November 18, 2007, 04:18:14 PM »
Quote from: eric bloedow on November 18, 2007, 04:10:57 PM
NONSENCE like "universal accellerator"
Sure makes sense to me.
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eric bloedow

Re: Challenge the Round Earth Model
« Reply #17 on: November 18, 2007, 04:19:37 PM »
get on any airplane, fly up high, and look at the horizon. take a picture of a mountain. fly around the mountain, and take more pictures.

notice that the horizon is not only curved, but the amount of curvature is the same from every angle.

there you have it, proof that earth is round!
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Re: Challenge the Round Earth Model
« Reply #18 on: November 18, 2007, 04:20:21 PM »
Quote from: TheEngineer on November 18, 2007, 04:18:14 PM
Quote from: eric bloedow on November 18, 2007, 04:10:57 PM
NONSENCE like "universal accellerator"
Sure makes sense to me.

please try and answer some questions rather than being a smart alec
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Re: Challenge the Round Earth Model
« Reply #19 on: November 18, 2007, 04:20:48 PM »
Well hey the engineer, since you're here also, do you have any thoughts on this matter?
Why would people be actively promoting something which would reveal your conspiracy?
Why haven't they been shut down?

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http://www.space.com/spacetourism/
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Re: Challenge the Round Earth Model
« Reply #20 on: November 18, 2007, 04:21:23 PM »
Quote from: paradiselost on November 18, 2007, 04:20:21 PM
Quote from: TheEngineer on November 18, 2007, 04:18:14 PM
Quote from: eric bloedow on November 18, 2007, 04:10:57 PM
NONSENCE like "universal accellerator"
Sure makes sense to me.

please try and answer some questions rather than being a smart alec
I would like to know why you RE'ers don't think it makes sense.
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paradiselost

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Re: Challenge the Round Earth Model
« Reply #21 on: November 18, 2007, 04:23:01 PM »
i would like you to answer a question about ice crystals OR why NASA hasnt shut down space tourism sites...if we want to question UA, we'll do it in the appropriate thread
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Re: Challenge the Round Earth Model
« Reply #22 on: November 18, 2007, 04:24:17 PM »
Quote from: eric bloedow on November 18, 2007, 04:10:57 PM
your model has MANY flaws, ALL of which you try to fill in with NONSENCE like "universal accellerator"
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Re: Challenge the Round Earth Model
« Reply #23 on: November 18, 2007, 04:25:04 PM »
Quote from: Roundearther4life on November 18, 2007, 04:20:48 PM
Well hey the engineer, since you're here also, do you have any thoughts on this matter?
Why would people be actively promoting something which would reveal your conspiracy?
Why haven't they been shut down?

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http://www.space.com/spacetourism/
It's all a way to keep the conspiracy going.  It's quite brilliant, actually.
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paradiselost

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Re: Challenge the Round Earth Model
« Reply #24 on: November 18, 2007, 04:25:52 PM »
Quote from: TheEngineer on November 18, 2007, 04:25:04 PM
Quote from: Roundearther4life on November 18, 2007, 04:20:48 PM
Well hey the engineer, since you're here also, do you have any thoughts on this matter?
Why would people be actively promoting something which would reveal your conspiracy?
Why haven't they been shut down?

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http://www.space.com/spacetourism/
It's all a way to keep the conspiracy going.  It's quite brilliant, actually.

so you're saying that these people are in on the conspiracy? how can this be? i thought there was only 45....
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eric bloedow

Re: Challenge the Round Earth Model
« Reply #25 on: November 18, 2007, 04:26:11 PM »
sheesh, i don't know where to begin about the flaws in the UA THEORY.

ok, let's start with: why doesn't the moon or sun crash into earth?
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Re: Challenge the Round Earth Model
« Reply #26 on: November 18, 2007, 04:27:01 PM »
Quote from: eric bloedow on November 18, 2007, 04:26:11 PM
sheesh, i don't know where to begin about the flaws in the UA THEORY.

ok, let's start with: why doesn't the moon or sun crash into earth?
For the thousandth time, they accelerate also.
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paradiselost

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Re: Challenge the Round Earth Model
« Reply #27 on: November 18, 2007, 04:27:16 PM »
please move into a relevant forum, i want  the engineer to explain the conspiracy, not UA...
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Re: Challenge the Round Earth Model
« Reply #28 on: November 18, 2007, 04:27:28 PM »
Quote from: eric bloedow on November 18, 2007, 04:26:11 PM
sheesh, i don't know where to begin about the flaws in the UA THEORY.

ok, let's start with: why doesn't the moon or sun crash into earth?

The Sun and the Moon are also accelerated by UA: "Universal Acceleration".
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Re: Challenge the Round Earth Model
« Reply #29 on: November 18, 2007, 04:27:33 PM »
Quote from: paradiselost on November 18, 2007, 04:25:52 PM
Quote from: TheEngineer on November 18, 2007, 04:25:04 PM
Quote from: Roundearther4life on November 18, 2007, 04:20:48 PM
Well hey the engineer, since you're here also, do you have any thoughts on this matter?
Why would people be actively promoting something which would reveal your conspiracy?
Why haven't they been shut down?

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http://www.space.com/spacetourism/
It's all a way to keep the conspiracy going.  It's quite brilliant, actually.

so you're saying that these people are in on the conspiracy? how can this be? i thought there was only 45....
All, what, seven of them?  Wow.
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