Questions for Clarification.

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SparteX

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Re: Questions for Clarification.
« Reply #90 on: November 24, 2007, 01:35:44 PM »
avoided the question AGAIN. getting good at this aren't you.

And you avoided mine.

I don't know the answer to it, do you? The closest I've seen is inference.

And again, what does that have to do with our discussion? What does it prove?

Dark Energy wasn't an FE concoction, so I don't see the point in bringing it up how it is detected in here.
It was a theoretical concoction made to explain how the universe has the mass to expand so fast.

Once again answered a question with a question.

i was saying how do you know there is a dark energy field with no way of detecting it.

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« Reply #91 on: November 24, 2007, 01:56:10 PM »
also if it's dark energy accellerating the planet how does it hold the atmosphere in?
The Dark Energy Field is a vector field.  It has a gradient that is smallest at the interaction of the atmosphere and the field, called the boundary layer.  The DEF interacts with the magnetic field of the earth at this boundary layer.  These vectors produce a force vector that is orthogonal to the other vectors in four dimensional space.  This force vector is always normal to the boundary layer, thus providing a type of forced containment for the atmosphere.


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Re: Questions for Clarification.
« Reply #92 on: November 24, 2007, 02:23:37 PM »
a fourth dimension is only theoretical, it has yet to be discovered.

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« Reply #93 on: November 24, 2007, 02:24:18 PM »
We live in four dimensions, at a minimum.


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« Reply #94 on: November 24, 2007, 02:55:58 PM »
a fourth dimension is only theoretical, it has yet to be discovered.

Time is often considered the fourth. Therefore we live in four.
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« Reply #95 on: November 24, 2007, 04:09:14 PM »
a fourth dimension is only theoretical, it has yet to be discovered.
Ever heard of "space-time"?

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« Reply #96 on: November 25, 2007, 06:52:34 AM »
then why do others in FE believe it does.

Why do people believe in different religions? Like different foods? Drive different cars?

Honestly, where do you come up with these questions?

but in RE theory's are widely accepted or not accepted atall , this seems different in FE though because all FE'er seem to have different theory's
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« Reply #97 on: November 25, 2007, 09:29:30 PM »
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but in RE theory's are widely accepted or not accepted atall , this seems different in FE though because all FE'er seem to have different theory's

Do you honestly expect us to know how to detect Dark Energy, know what's beyond the uncharted tundra of the south, and know precisely how the cosmos work?
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« Reply #98 on: November 26, 2007, 12:45:45 AM »
then why do others in FE believe it does.

Why do people believe in different religions? Like different foods? Drive different cars?

Honestly, where do you come up with these questions?

but in RE theory's are widely accepted or not accepted atall , this seems different in FE though because all FE'er seem to have different theory's
No, any new field is widely debated and not accepted by all.
FE theory is not that developed for obvious reasons and so there are many different views of how it works. As subjects grow more debated and more proof is found, acceptance will grow.

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« Reply #99 on: November 26, 2007, 09:52:45 AM »
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but in RE theory's are widely accepted or not accepted atall , this seems different in FE though because all FE'er seem to have different theory's

Do you honestly expect us to know how to detect Dark Energy, know what's beyond the uncharted tundra of the south, and know precisely how the cosmos work?

if u cant detect it , don't know how it works then why do you assume its in the FE theory ? o that's right because people can't disprove you because no 1 knows what its about .. good tactic.
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« Reply #100 on: November 26, 2007, 10:10:50 AM »
if u cant detect it , don't know how it works then why do you assume its in the FE theory ? o that's right because people can't disprove you because no 1 knows what its about .. good tactic.
Same can be said of the RE's Dark Energy.


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« Reply #101 on: November 26, 2007, 10:16:01 AM »
if u cant detect it , don't know how it works then why do you assume its in the FE theory ? o that's right because people can't disprove you because no 1 knows what its about .. good tactic.
Same can be said of the RE's Dark Energy.

ive never heard of RE's theory of dark energy though , could you direct me to a link about it ?
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« Reply #102 on: November 26, 2007, 03:29:30 PM »


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« Reply #103 on: November 26, 2007, 07:29:30 PM »
Lol. Googling things is hard for noobs.

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« Reply #104 on: November 26, 2007, 07:39:50 PM »
Lol, n00bs.


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Re: Questions for Clarification.
« Reply #105 on: November 28, 2007, 10:09:59 AM »
i only had a quick look at that , but it seems dark energy is all about accelerating and expanding universe , not accelerating a object (FE)
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« Reply #106 on: November 28, 2007, 11:58:11 AM »
Well, the flat Earth floats in what again? [Hint: the universe]

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« Reply #107 on: November 28, 2007, 12:12:31 PM »
Well, the flat Earth floats in what again? [Hint: the universe]

so do all the other planets accelerate then ?
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« Reply #108 on: November 28, 2007, 12:53:30 PM »
Yes.

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« Reply #109 on: November 28, 2007, 01:05:52 PM »
i only had a quick look at that , but it seems dark energy is all about accelerating and expanding universe , not accelerating a object (FE)
I don't remember saying otherwise.


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« Reply #110 on: November 28, 2007, 01:48:38 PM »
if i remember, austria is an old, dis-used name for what is now Germany.
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Re: Questions for Clarification.
« Reply #111 on: November 28, 2007, 02:22:27 PM »
I am a scientist.
So, what field are you specialized in?

I was really hoping for an answer...

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Re: Questions for Clarification.
« Reply #112 on: November 28, 2007, 02:32:04 PM »
He's already shown that he's nothing close to one by his lame arguments and that thing about the radio waves and light thing. And if he really is one, I hope that nothing he does has anything to do with the well-being of other people.
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Re: Questions for Clarification.
« Reply #113 on: November 28, 2007, 02:46:51 PM »
One could publish a Humourous book about stupid things people say about light.
If you can't argue botjh sides, you understand nther

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« Reply #114 on: November 28, 2007, 03:17:14 PM »
He's already shown that he's nothing close to one by his lame arguments and that thing about the radio waves and light thing. And if he really is one, I hope that nothing he does has anything to do with the well-being of other people.

But that's why it'd be fun to get an answer.

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« Reply #115 on: November 28, 2007, 05:42:13 PM »
One could publish a Humourous book about stupid things people say about light.

That would go down a storm in any physics department staff room at any university in the world.
if i remember, austria is an old, dis-used name for what is now Germany.
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Re: Questions for Clarification.
« Reply #116 on: November 29, 2007, 08:57:14 AM »
Yes.

so the hole univerise (sun , earth , venus , other planets) are all accelerating upwards and not orbiting anything ?
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« Reply #117 on: November 29, 2007, 01:41:57 PM »
Yes.

so the hole univerise (sun , earth , venus , other planets) are all accelerating upwards and not orbiting anything ?

Mostly everything is accelerating upwards.  I believe there are FE models that hold orbit to be occurring.

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« Reply #118 on: November 29, 2007, 02:09:44 PM »
Mostly everything is accelerating upwards.  I believe there are FE models that hold orbit to be occurring.

fair enough , how dose FE explain planets moving in front of the sun ?
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« Reply #119 on: November 29, 2007, 02:16:23 PM »
Unsure.  Try a search; I'm sure it's been discussed.