the world is round

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the world is round
« on: November 15, 2007, 09:18:24 AM »
...and if you think otherwise, you're an idiot.  help yourself to a first grade science book.

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Tom Bishop

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Re: the world is round
« Reply #1 on: November 15, 2007, 09:22:41 AM »
What science book presents experimental evidence proving that the world is a sphere?

Re: the world is round
« Reply #2 on: November 15, 2007, 09:39:21 AM »
What science book presents experimental evidence proving that the world is a sphere?


has anyone ever fallen off the flat earth?

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Tom Bishop

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Re: the world is round
« Reply #3 on: November 15, 2007, 02:16:24 PM »
How could you fall off an infinite plane?

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Mr. Ireland

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Re: the world is round
« Reply #4 on: November 15, 2007, 02:28:37 PM »
...and if you think otherwise, you're an idiot.

That's a strong argument you have there. ::)

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Re: the world is round
« Reply #5 on: November 15, 2007, 02:30:06 PM »
How could you fall off an infinite plane?

Oh so now earth is infinite flat disk. This theory changes more frequently than I change my undies (which is daily I might add)

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Tom Bishop

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Re: the world is round
« Reply #6 on: November 15, 2007, 02:31:06 PM »
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Oh so now earth is infinite flat disk. This theory changes more frequently than I change my undies (which is daily I might add)

Where in the literature does it say that it's finite?

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Gabe

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Re: the world is round
« Reply #7 on: November 15, 2007, 02:31:43 PM »
Tom is the only FE'er who believes that. If your going to debunk FE do it to the standard model.  :D

Tom, what experimental evidence is there that suggests the Earth is infinite?
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There is no evidence for an infinite Earth.
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The Earth is infinite.
Warning, you have just lowered your IQ by reading my sig.

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Gabe

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Re: the world is round
« Reply #8 on: November 15, 2007, 02:35:02 PM »
What science book presents experimental evidence proving that the world is a sphere?

You mean experimental evidence like launching shuttles and looking at the Earth from a distance?...
Oh wait, evidence that disproves FE is inherently wrong or fake. my bad.  ::)
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There is no evidence for an infinite Earth.
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The Earth is infinite.
Warning, you have just lowered your IQ by reading my sig.

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Tom Bishop

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Re: the world is round
« Reply #9 on: November 15, 2007, 02:36:28 PM »
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Tom, what experimental evidence is there that suggests the Earth is infinite?

There is no such evidence, because collecting such evidence would require an infinite amount of time.

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Tom is the only FE'er who believes that. If your going to debunk FE do it to the standard model.

The Infinite Plane is the standard model. Please read Earth Not a Globe, the standard of all FE literature.

    "Rowbotham believed that the earth is flat. The continents float on an ocean which somehow has a layer of fire underneath it. The lands we know are surrounded by an infinite wilderness of ice and snow, beyond the Antarctic ocean, bordered by an immense circular ice-cliff. What we call the North Pole is in the center of the earth."
« Last Edit: November 15, 2007, 02:38:06 PM by Tom Bishop »

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Gabe

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Re: the world is round
« Reply #10 on: November 15, 2007, 02:40:23 PM »
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Tom, what experimental evidence is there that suggests the Earth is infinite?

There is no such evidence, because collecting such evidence would require an infinite amount of time.

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Tom is the only FE'er who believes that. If your going to debunk FE do it to the standard model.

The Infinite Plane is the standard model. Please read Earth Not a Globe, the standard of all FE literature.

    "Rowbotham believed that the earth is flat. The continents float on an ocean which somehow has a layer of fire underneath it. The lands we know are surrounded by an infinite wilderness of ice and snow, beyond the Antarctic ocean, bordered by an immense circular ice-cliff. What we call the North Pole is in the center of the earth."

So you based your conclusion for an infinite Earth on no evidence.
And your beliefs for the Earth being infinite are based on religious speculation. You took all the fun out of mocking you.  :(

When I meant standard model, I meant for FES forums. Not the original real FES.
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There is no evidence for an infinite Earth.
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The Earth is infinite.
Warning, you have just lowered your IQ by reading my sig.

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Dioptimus Drime

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Re: the world is round
« Reply #11 on: November 15, 2007, 02:50:43 PM »
Hey, Tom, how does an infinite plane accelerate?


~D-Draw

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Gabe

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Re: the world is round
« Reply #12 on: November 15, 2007, 02:56:55 PM »
With infinite force of course! Atlas has been working out lately.
Quote from: Tom Bishop
There is no evidence for an infinite Earth.
Quote from: Tom Bishop
The Earth is infinite.
Warning, you have just lowered your IQ by reading my sig.

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Gabe

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Re: the world is round
« Reply #13 on: November 15, 2007, 03:08:54 PM »
I have debated with Tom a good 5 times and has he always run away!  >:(
Quote from: Tom Bishop
There is no evidence for an infinite Earth.
Quote from: Tom Bishop
The Earth is infinite.
Warning, you have just lowered your IQ by reading my sig.

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Tom Bishop

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Re: the world is round
« Reply #14 on: November 15, 2007, 03:13:20 PM »
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So you based your conclusion for an infinite Earth on no evidence.

That's okay, you REers base your conclusion for an infinite universe on zero evidence.

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When I meant standard model, I meant for FES forums. Not the original real FES.

The model in the FAQ does not represent the model of the actual Flat Earth Society or its literature.

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Hey, Tom, how does an infinite plane accelerate?

Infinite matter implies infinite energy. Read up on your Einstein.
« Last Edit: November 15, 2007, 03:14:54 PM by Tom Bishop »

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Gabe

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Re: the world is round
« Reply #15 on: November 15, 2007, 03:13:58 PM »
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Topic: the world is round
QFT
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There is no evidence for an infinite Earth.
Quote from: Tom Bishop
The Earth is infinite.
Warning, you have just lowered your IQ by reading my sig.

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Wakka Wakka

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Re: the world is round
« Reply #16 on: November 15, 2007, 04:16:38 PM »
So tom in other words you have absolutely no proof that the earth is infinite.  And if the earth is infinite i still dont understand how it could wobble back and forth to cause tides.
Normally when I'm not sure I just cop a feel.

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Dioptimus Drime

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Re: the world is round
« Reply #17 on: November 15, 2007, 04:44:58 PM »
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Hey, Tom, how does an infinite plane accelerate?

Infinite matter implies infinite energy. Read up on your Einstein.

Pretty sure Einstein never said that there was infinite energy in our universe, actually, but then again, hey, I could be wrong...


::)

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Tom Bishop

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Re: the world is round
« Reply #18 on: November 15, 2007, 04:50:10 PM »
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So tom in other words you have absolutely no proof that the earth is infinite.  And if the earth is infinite i still dont understand how it could wobble back and forth to cause tides.

The earth does not wobble. The tides are explained in Chapter 12 of Earth Not a Globe.

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Pretty sure Einstein never said that there was infinite energy in our universe, actually, but then again, hey, I could be wrong...

::)

~D-Draw

Actually, Einstein did say that if there was infinite matter in the universe then there must therefore be infinite energy.

E=mc2

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass-energy_equivalence

You lose.
« Last Edit: November 15, 2007, 04:53:26 PM by Tom Bishop »

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paradiselost

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Re: the world is round
« Reply #19 on: November 15, 2007, 04:59:45 PM »
please explain the great circle routes then
Dumbshoe

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GLneo

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Re: the world is round
« Reply #20 on: November 15, 2007, 05:07:40 PM »
Our earth is on an infinite plane and beyond our world are more worlds on the same plane and once the governments of the ice mountain surrounded valley we call earth found out this info they made conspiracys to contain our simple minds from continuing on past the ice walls and discovering the truth...  ::)

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Re: the world is round
« Reply #21 on: November 15, 2007, 05:54:21 PM »
Tom, I've never posted in direct reply to the "experimental proof" before, but since nobody including youself has responded to this, I am going to quote myself here... Read the whole thing, including the edit, before commenting please.

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I hate to use an analogy here but I can't think of a better way to do it... to simplify this experiment take a cylinder (or globe if you want, that's fine too) and place upon it a couple of Styrofoam blocks or shapes of some kind.. relatively thin is fine and glue them down good and tight. place them relatively close even.. the more so the better to prove the point. Farther away and it will be more of an effect, but this shows the minor differences you were pointing out also.

Now stab a pencil or needle or what have you into each block wherever you choose, string a thread tight between them, then cut the cylinder along the backside, and lay it out flat. You will notice that the thread now droops. This would be an example of a northern discrepancy between known current distance between two points and if you were to flatten out the earth.

For the south pole, all you have to do is reverse the concept, cut the cylinder from the front and the thread either springs tight trying to keep it together or snaps.

Hope that helps, if not let me know... I'll try to do better.

Take care,
John

Edit: Also, in case the last part doesn't seem feasible, take a circle or disk, wrap it into even a gentle cone and repeat the same experiment, attempting to flatten the cone back out into a disk... the string will tighten out or snap sue to the distortion.

Before anyone says this proves nothing but experimental shapes, these are only experiments to prove distance variances - take into account we ALL know how far it is from say Tokyo to LA, or in common discussion here; say San Francisco, CA to Sydney, Australia - 7408 miles (11922 km) (6438 nautical miles) [a long haul I make at least once a year to see my brother... ugh!]

If you try to alter the map (as in move and/or twist continents around) to make the distance work... then you are off on all your other distances to elsewhere in the world. try to adjust that also... then you just start making it worse and worse.

Take care,
John

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Re: the world is round
« Reply #22 on: November 15, 2007, 06:00:22 PM »
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So tom in other words you have absolutely no proof that the earth is infinite.  And if the earth is infinite i still dont understand how it could wobble back and forth to cause tides.

The earth does not wobble. The tides are explained in Chapter 12 of Earth Not a Globe.

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Pretty sure Einstein never said that there was infinite energy in our universe, actually, but then again, hey, I could be wrong...

::)

~D-Draw

Actually, Einstein did say that if there was infinite matter in the universe then there must therefore be infinite energy.

E=mc2

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass-energy_equivalence

You lose.

Touche. But Einstein still didn't say there was infinite mass OR infinite energy, just implied the connection that if there were to be infinite mass, there would have to be infinite energy.

~D-Draw

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Re: the world is round
« Reply #23 on: November 15, 2007, 06:03:33 PM »
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Oh so now earth is infinite flat disk. This theory changes more frequently than I change my undies (which is daily I might add)

Where in the literature does it say that it's finite?

Your FAQ says that. It even provides an illustration.

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Mystified

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Re: the world is round
« Reply #24 on: November 15, 2007, 06:37:20 PM »
So Tom... tried those experiments out yet? ;)

Sorry can't help it.. I'm punch drunk tired waiting on yet another (and thankfully my last of this trip) plane.

C-me!
John