re: "how does fe explain a mountain half sunken behind a horizon of water?"
bishop: "the bottom half of the mountain is intersected with the vanishing point. magnification would restore the mountains."
re: "then how do you explain this?" (high-zoom image of horizon and sunken mountains the same)
bishop: "you did not follow the requirements specified in rowbotham's 'earth not a globe'."
re: "i don't care about pseudoscientific/antiscientific claptrap like rowbotham's enag. let's talk science. let's talk reality. let's talk about ideas that weren't a laughing stock of then, and aren't now. but ok, for kicks - what are rowbotham's specific requirements?"
bishop: "newton's reflector telescope."
re: "huh? rowbatham never even documented any of his equipment, other than saying his telescope was 'very good'. my bicycle is 'very good'. but its not going to win any 'precision scientific equipment' awards. furthermore, the sketches clearly show rowbotham using a handheld refractor spotting scope. ...though i'm sure it's a 'very good' one."
bishop: "that's just the rules. that i just made up and change to suit whatever argument i'm losing. you must use newton's personal reflector. since you don't have it, fe wins."
re: "no it doesn't. here are more images with far more angular resolution than rowbotham could have acheived in his time with a refractor. they are even way past the point of atmospheric visibility anyway, so more zoom will just make things bigger and blurrier, with no increase in angular resolution."
bishop: "these images to not correspond to fe theory. therefore, they are obviously fake, or you are lying, or you have applied some kind of hallucinogenic power to them to confuse me. you lose. fe wins."