Flat Earth Books

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neiss91

Flat Earth Books
« on: November 18, 2007, 12:11:24 PM »
I am a FEer and am looking for some FE literature or research books. Any suggestions? Also, no sarcastic answers please, some of us are here to teach and learn, not to be assholes.

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Re: Flat Earth Books
« Reply #1 on: November 18, 2007, 12:15:59 PM »
If you view all posts of Tom Bishop he often posts a list of about 30 sources.  However the best place to start would be Earth: Not A Globe by Samuel Rowbotham
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Re: Flat Earth Books
« Reply #3 on: November 18, 2007, 12:38:11 PM »
I am a FEer and am looking for some FE literature or research books. Any suggestions? Also, no sarcastic answers please, some of us are here to teach and learn, not to be assholes.
How about "The Do-It-Yourself guide to brain removal"
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Re: Flat Earth Books
« Reply #4 on: November 19, 2007, 12:16:45 AM »

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Re: Flat Earth Books
« Reply #5 on: November 19, 2007, 05:18:21 AM »
"Earth Not a Globe" is a must. While it's available online, I chose to buy a hard copy for reference when I'm not on the internet. It makes an interesting coffee-table talking point too.

I've recently ordered a hard copy of "Terra Firma" by David Scott - I've heard it's a good read, I'll report back when I've got it.

Meanwhile, Back Issues of Johnson's "Flat Earth News" are great reading. There are links to some copies in the FEIR I think.
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Re: Flat Earth Books
« Reply #6 on: November 19, 2007, 01:24:36 PM »
I reccomend "Earth Not a Globe", it makes a great doorstop and emergency fuel for burning in winter.
"Flat earth News" is a must, if you have a pet rodent and need something to line it;s cage.
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Re: Flat Earth Books
« Reply #7 on: November 19, 2007, 05:11:06 PM »
Also, Earth Not a Globe is a  great book for crushing the folds in certain things.
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Re: Flat Earth Books
« Reply #8 on: November 20, 2007, 09:03:00 PM »
Also, Earth Not a Globe is a  great book for crushing the folds in certain things.

It's a nice book, but unfortunatelly it's not mathematical.

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There is plenty of math in Earth Not a Globe. For example; to find the time, magnitude, and duration of the lunar eclipse under the FE model we can use the following formulas published in Chapter 10 of Earth Not a Globe by Dr. Samuel Birley Rowbotham:

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Let A, B, R, (in the above diagram) be a section of the eclipse shadow at the distance of the moon; S, n, the path described by its centre, S, on the ecliptic; M, n, the relative orbit of the moon; M, n, S, n, being considered straight lines. Draw S, o, perpendicular to S, n, and S, m, to M, n; then o, and m, are in the places, with respect to S, of the moon in opposition, and at the middle of the eclipse.

Let α = S, B = h + π - σ, the radius of the section of the shadow.

λ = S, o, the moon's latitude in opposition.

f = the relative horary motion in longitude of the moon in the relative orbit, M, n.

h = the moon's horary motion in the relative orbit.

g = the moon's horary motion in latitude.

μ = the moon's semi-diameter;


Let M, and N, be the place of the moon's centre at the time of the first and last contact; therefore

SM = SN = a + μ.

Now S m = λ cos n;


and m, o = λ sin n.

If, therefore, t, and t´, be the times from opposition of the first and last contact,


The time from opposition, of the middle of the eclipse


The magnitude of the eclipse, or the part of the moon immersed,

= S u - S v.

= S u--S m + m, v.

=a - λ cos n + μ.

The moon's diameter is generally divided into twelve equal parts, called digits;

therefore the digits eclipsed = 12 :: α - λ, n +μ : 2 μ


COR. 1.--If λ cos n, be greater than α + μ, t and t´ are impossible, and no eclipse can take place, as is also evident from the figure.

COR. 2.--In exactly the same manner it may be proved, if t and t´ be the times from opposition, of the centres of the shadow and moon being at any given distance c,


COR. 3.--If c = h + μ + σ + μ = the radius of the penumbra, + the radius of the moon, the times of the moon entering and emerging from the penumbra are obtained.

The horary motion of the moon is about 32½´, and that of the sun 2½´; therefore the relative horary motion of the moon is 30´; and as the greatest diameter of the section at the distance of the moon is 1° 31´ 44″, a lunar eclipse may last more than three hours.

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This considered, the Flat Earth model is just as predictive as the Round Earth model.
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Re: Flat Earth Books
« Reply #9 on: November 27, 2007, 05:00:36 AM »
Also, Earth Not a Globe is a  great book for crushing the folds in certain things.

It's a nice book, but unfortunatelly it's not mathematical.

Wrong

There is plenty of math in Earth Not a Globe. For example; to find the time, magnitude, and duration of the lunar eclipse under the FE model we can use the following formulas published in Chapter 10 of Earth Not a Globe by Dr. Samuel Birley Rowbotham:

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Let A, B, R, (in the above diagram) be a section of the eclipse shadow at the distance of the moon; S, n, the path described by its centre, S, on the ecliptic; M, n, the relative orbit of the moon; M, n, S, n, being considered straight lines. Draw S, o, perpendicular to S, n, and S, m, to M, n; then o, and m, are in the places, with respect to S, of the moon in opposition, and at the middle of the eclipse.

Let α = S, B = h + π - σ, the radius of the section of the shadow.

λ = S, o, the moon's latitude in opposition.

f = the relative horary motion in longitude of the moon in the relative orbit, M, n.

h = the moon's horary motion in the relative orbit.

g = the moon's horary motion in latitude.

μ = the moon's semi-diameter;


Let M, and N, be the place of the moon's centre at the time of the first and last contact; therefore

SM = SN = a + μ.

Now S m = λ cos n;


and m, o = λ sin n.

If, therefore, t, and t´, be the times from opposition of the first and last contact,


The time from opposition, of the middle of the eclipse


The magnitude of the eclipse, or the part of the moon immersed,

= S u - S v.

= S u--S m + m, v.

=a - λ cos n + μ.

The moon's diameter is generally divided into twelve equal parts, called digits;

therefore the digits eclipsed = 12 :: α - λ, n +μ : 2 μ


COR. 1.--If λ cos n, be greater than α + μ, t and t´ are impossible, and no eclipse can take place, as is also evident from the figure.

COR. 2.--In exactly the same manner it may be proved, if t and t´ be the times from opposition, of the centres of the shadow and moon being at any given distance c,


COR. 3.--If c = h + μ + σ + μ = the radius of the penumbra, + the radius of the moon, the times of the moon entering and emerging from the penumbra are obtained.

The horary motion of the moon is about 32½´, and that of the sun 2½´; therefore the relative horary motion of the moon is 30´; and as the greatest diameter of the section at the distance of the moon is 1° 31´ 44″, a lunar eclipse may last more than three hours.

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This considered, the Flat Earth model is just as predictive as the Round Earth model.
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