got some questions

ok i read the FAQ, and u guys said that NASA made the earth look flat throught very expensive imagery tech....
k now how about the russians? when the made the vid of the first space walk, in the background the earh was a sphere.......now, why would russia be a part of the conspiracy if they were communist and competing with the united states???

Because they weren't really competing, it was a lie, invented by the conspiracy, to keep citizens afraid.

no they were trust me, i may be 16, but EVERY adult in my family was inolved some was in the soviet system(example: my grandfather was in the KGB, my other grandpa was a tank commander, my grandmpa was in KGB, my mom was born in communism, my dad designs jets for russia and my uncle died in the russian-afgan war)

so ya they told me some stories from back then

obviously the conspiracy is WAY above the Army and KGB, they all thought the Cold War was for real.

obviously the conspiracy is WAY above the Army and KGB, they all thought the Cold War was for real.

Can anyone actually give some sort of answer as to who conspiring against whom and why? Otherwise this whole conspiracy theory is  just masturbation, really.

obviously the conspiracy is WAY above the Army and KGB, they all thought the Cold War was for real.

wow u are stupid ur telling me that the eyes of the government didnt know?

wow u are stupid ur telling me that the eyes of the govermanet didnt know?

I'm so glad you didn't waste your time spelling out "you're" so you could focus on the big words like "govermanet"

i noticed that....then i couldnt find the edit button

and dont change the subject my question is how would the KGB not know about the concperacy(dont know how to spell it)?

the KGB was the eyes of the government...how would they not know about it..........makes no sense..and casmanauts would keep the earth being flat a secret to???


and if earth is falt how do we look in space?? are we just a floating plattform???

makes no sense

Since reading/writing is not your strong suite, I will spare you a begging "read the faq" response.

In short, the conspiracy is not the government. The conspiracy has power over governments without their knowing it.

so ur telling me not even the government knew about this???
so when russia sent yuri gagarrin to space they knew the earh was flat??
but they didnt tell because..........?

RASA and NASA higher-ups are in control of the conspiracy; as well, China's aeronautics team is also in on it. Agent Z is a troll (or at least he's making shit up right now), so don't listen to him. The...er...govermanet...has nothing to do with it, just the aeronautics teams. So, yes, we're telling you the government didn't know about it. Then again, if you look at it, they're just as clueless as us as to what goes on in their "governmental" aeronautics facilities. They just toss money their way and hope something magical happens with it.

They didn't tell anyone because they wanted buttloads of cash. Who wouldn't?

~D-Draw

Because they weren't really competing, it was a lie, invented by the conspiracy, to keep citizens afraid.

So the mighty USSR went bankrupt as a result of the arms race just for putting up a good show and fool everyone, yeah I can certainly see that to happen, sure.

Quote from: Agent Z on November 12, 2007, 08:42:39 AM

Because they weren't really competing, it was a lie, invented by the conspiracy, to keep citizens afraid.

So the mighty USSR went bankrupt as a result of the arms race just for putting up a good show and fool everyone, yeah I can certainly see that to happen, sure.

But that's exactly what the Cold War was all about.

RASA and NASA higher-ups are in control of the conspiracy; as well, China's aeronautics team is also in on it. Agent Z is a troll (or at least he's making shit up right now), so don't listen to him. The...er...govermanet...has nothing to do with it, just the aeronautics teams. So, yes, we're telling you the government didn't know about it. Then again, if you look at it, they're just as clueless as us as to what goes on in their "governmental" aeronautics facilities. They just toss money their way and hope something magical happens with it.

They didn't tell anyone because they wanted buttloads of cash. Who wouldn't?

~D-Draw

That is one magical bologna you ate some time ago friend, The government keeps NASA on a very short leash and it isn't shy to cut the budget (like they have done it before countless times) if NASA screws up or don't deliver results.

Quote from: Diego Draw, Tamer of Beasts on November 12, 2007, 12:50:04 PM

RASA and NASA higher-ups are in control of the conspiracy; as well, China's aeronautics team is also in on it. Agent Z is a troll (or at least he's making shit up right now), so don't listen to him. The...er...govermanet...has nothing to do with it, just the aeronautics teams. So, yes, we're telling you the government didn't know about it. Then again, if you look at it, they're just as clueless as us as to what goes on in their "governmental" aeronautics facilities. They just toss money their way and hope something magical happens with it.

They didn't tell anyone because they wanted buttloads of cash. Who wouldn't?

~D-Draw

That is one magical bologna you ate some time ago friend, The government keeps NASA on a very short leash and it isn't shy to cut the budget (like they have done it before countless times) if NASA screws up or don't deliver results.

Did I ever say that the government wasn't in control of the budget OR that NASA doesn't deliver results? Fact of the matter is, the government isn't comprised of a bunch of engineers, and as long as they get what they were looking for as far of results go, they don't really have any reason to investigate against conspiracies. There's no reason to look into what they're doing as long as the results come through.

~D-Draw

Quote from: Bytes on November 12, 2007, 01:00:10 PM

Quote from: Diego Draw, Tamer of Beasts on November 12, 2007, 12:50:04 PM

RASA and NASA higher-ups are in control of the conspiracy; as well, China's aeronautics team is also in on it. Agent Z is a troll (or at least he's making shit up right now), so don't listen to him. The...er...govermanet...has nothing to do with it, just the aeronautics teams. So, yes, we're telling you the government didn't know about it. Then again, if you look at it, they're just as clueless as us as to what goes on in their "governmental" aeronautics facilities. They just toss money their way and hope something magical happens with it.

They didn't tell anyone because they wanted buttloads of cash. Who wouldn't?

~D-Draw

That is one magical bologna you ate some time ago friend, The government keeps NASA on a very short leash and it isn't shy to cut the budget (like they have done it before countless times) if NASA screws up or don't deliver results.

Did I ever say that the government wasn't in control of the budget OR that NASA doesn't deliver results? Fact of the matter is, the government isn't comprised of a bunch of engineers, and as long as they get what they were looking for as far of results go, they don't really have any reason to investigate against conspiracies. There's no reason to look into what they're doing as long as the results come through.

~D-Draw

So the US government is run by a bunch of morons who are happy as long as NASA keeps feeding them "photoshopped" images. Well I don't buy that either. Not to mention that every space fairing nation and every nation that has ever sent a satellite into orbit would have to have the same moronic government.

So the US government is run by a bunch of morons who are happy as long as NASA keeps feeding them "photoshopped" images. Well I don't buy that either. Not to mention that every space fairing nation and every nation that has ever sent a satellite into orbit would have to have the same moronic government.

You don't believe that the U.S. government is run by a bunch of morons? Have you seen Iraq?

Moving on, the other "space fairing nations" are Russia and China, and yes, their governments are "moronic." Then again, I don't see why you think they need to be moronic. If you were a government official and NASA kept turning up "moon rocks," photos from "sattelites," and tons of other results, would you immediately go, "OH MY GOD I BET IT'S A CONSPIRACY! LET'S GO RAID THEIR LABORATORIES!!!"

~D-Draw

Quote from: Bytes on November 12, 2007, 01:13:02 PM

So the US government is run by a bunch of morons who are happy as long as NASA keeps feeding them "photoshopped" images. Well I don't buy that either. Not to mention that every space fairing nation and every nation that has ever sent a satellite into orbit would have to have the same moronic government.

You don't believe that the U.S. government is run by a bunch of morons? Have you seen Iraq?

Moving on, the other "space fairing nations" are Russia and China, and yes, their governments are "moronic." Then again, I don't see why you think they need to be moronic. If you were a government official and NASA kept turning up "moon rocks," photos from "sattelites," and tons of other results, would you immediately go, "OH MY GOD I BET IT'S A CONSPIRACY! LET'S GO RAID THEIR LABORATORIES!!!"

~D-Draw

That was a nice cheap shot but I thought this discussion was about flat earth vs round earth not some political debate on Iraq. The US president does not represent the government as a whole.  If you don't agree on the US politics in Iraq, that's fine, but to blatantly declare that every government agency and their workers are morons is just as ignorant as the entire FE idea. As for the space faring nations, let's not forget Germany, Japan, France, India, and probably another 10 countries who sent satellites into orbit. They would have to have a pretty moronic government as well, not to mention countless of private companies who done the same, These companies surely run by morons who waste their private money on pretending to send satellites into orbits when they should just come here and learn all about how sustained space flight is not possible.

Quote from: Diego Draw, Tamer of Beasts on November 12, 2007, 01:20:14 PM

Quote from: Bytes on November 12, 2007, 01:13:02 PM

So the US government is run by a bunch of morons who are happy as long as NASA keeps feeding them "photoshopped" images. Well I don't buy that either. Not to mention that every space fairing nation and every nation that has ever sent a satellite into orbit would have to have the same moronic government.

You don't believe that the U.S. government is run by a bunch of morons? Have you seen Iraq?

Moving on, the other "space fairing nations" are Russia and China, and yes, their governments are "moronic." Then again, I don't see why you think they need to be moronic. If you were a government official and NASA kept turning up "moon rocks," photos from "sattelites," and tons of other results, would you immediately go, "OH MY GOD I BET IT'S A CONSPIRACY! LET'S GO RAID THEIR LABORATORIES!!!"

~D-Draw

That was a nice cheap shot but I thought this discussion was about flat earth vs round earth not some political debate on Iraq. The US president does not represent the government as a whole.  If you don't agree on the US politics in Iraq, that's fine, but to blatantly declare that every government agency and their workers are morons is just as ignorant as the entire FE idea.

That's why it was a joke and why I explained more in-depth. You know...Joke like...budum chick...Haha, funny?

Nevermind...

As for the space faring nations, let's not forget Germany, Japan, France, India, and probably another 10 countries who sent satellites into orbit. They would have to have a pretty moronic government as well, not to mention countless of private companies who done the same, These companies surely run by morons who waste their private money on pretending to send satellites into orbits when they should just come here and learn all about how sustained space flight is not possible.

Who says they're actually orbiting the Earth? And I still don't see what your idea is that they need to be a "moronic government" in order to believe their space exploration crew is actually exploring space. I mean, hell, the rest of the world believes it, why shouldn't the government?

And obviously if they came here they would be skeptical, just as you are and pretty much everybody else. Such is the curse of such a standalone theory.

~D-Draw

RASA and NASA higher-ups are in control of the conspiracy; as well, China's aeronautics team is also in on it. Agent Z is a troll (or at least he's making shit up right now), so don't listen to him. The...er...govermanet...has nothing to do with it, just the aeronautics teams. So, yes, we're telling you the government didn't know about it. Then again, if you look at it, they're just as clueless as us as to what goes on in their "governmental" aeronautics facilities. They just toss money their way and hope something magical happens with it.

They didn't tell anyone because they wanted buttloads of cash. Who wouldn't?

~D-Draw

What I said made just as much sense as your posts. Sheesh.

ok just 1 question: u said that not even the governament knew......so who the hell is covering all this crap up??
and im PRETTY sure that when yurri gaggarin landed(or crash landed) they asked him all kinds of questions like"what did u see up there and thing like that"

It's covered up by the space agencies. The top dogs of the government probably know something too.

All science is observed and interpreted based on the hypothesis of a round earth, and thus nobody else even notices.

oh and another question.....u do belive that other planets are round right???

obviously, since you can see them in the sky.

obviously, since you can see them in the sky.

so all the planets are round and we are a floating flat platform??

No, you're standing on a flat platform, looking at planets.

no, my question is what do we look like if ur looking at us from space??

Damnit, if it is all a god damn conspiracy, than why are they making it up???

How does it affect us? Personally I wouldn't give a rats ass if the earth is round or not.

haha. I find it funny that all 'I won. Goodbye.' can say about alex's question is his spelling.
Which is pretty damn racist because it sounds like his first language isn't english.

WHOAH! This guy's 16 and he can't spell government?!?  What is this world coming to?!?

Anyway, the earth would look like a large circular disc of some depth (depth of the FE is unknown) with a ring of ice around it and the continents blah blah blah you should get the picture.