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The Moon
« on: November 10, 2007, 11:22:05 AM »
Since the theory that the sun was a flat spotlight evolved into a spherical spotlight, I wish to confirm the moon also has become 3-D.
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Re: The Moon
« Reply #1 on: November 10, 2007, 11:26:18 AM »
I don't believe anything has ever been 2D in FE theory... :-\

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Re: The Moon
« Reply #2 on: November 10, 2007, 11:37:08 AM »
The sun and moon merely act like spotlights due to the density of the atmolayer.
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Re: The Moon
« Reply #3 on: November 10, 2007, 11:41:42 AM »
I'm talking years. I looked back quite a ways and found renderings confirming the Flat Sun and Moon portrayal.
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Re: The Moon
« Reply #4 on: November 10, 2007, 11:45:00 AM »
Flat earth theory has changed over the years.
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Re: The Moon
« Reply #5 on: November 10, 2007, 11:46:42 AM »
Yes, just like your round earth science, our science evolves as well.
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Re: The Moon
« Reply #6 on: November 10, 2007, 11:48:54 AM »
I'm not criticizing a developing theory. I'm asking is the moon round.
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Re: The Moon
« Reply #7 on: November 10, 2007, 11:50:58 AM »
I...think it's been answered.
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Re: The Moon
« Reply #8 on: November 10, 2007, 11:59:25 AM »
Quote from: FAQ
Q: "What about the stars, sun and moon and other planets? Are they flat too? What are they made of?"

A: The sun and moon, each 32 miles in diameter, circle Earth at a height of 3000 miles at its equator, located midway between the North Pole and the ice wall. Each functions similar to a "spotlight," with the sun radiating "hot light," the moon "cold light." As they are spotlights, they only give light out over a certain are which explains why some parts of the Earth are dark when others are light. Their apparent rising and setting are caused by optical illusions.

You'd think my question was hard.  :(
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Re: The Moon
« Reply #9 on: November 10, 2007, 12:11:18 PM »
The sun and moon merely act like spotlights due to the density of the atmolayer.

You can't glean my answer from this response?  ???
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Re: The Moon
« Reply #10 on: November 10, 2007, 12:12:06 PM »
I didn't realize that you were an official FE'er.
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Re: The Moon
« Reply #11 on: November 10, 2007, 12:13:13 PM »
What do you think an "official FEer" is?
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Re: The Moon
« Reply #12 on: November 10, 2007, 12:15:24 PM »
Someone serious about the FET and is a creditable spokesperson for the FE.
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Re: The Moon
« Reply #13 on: November 10, 2007, 12:19:06 PM »
I fit both qualifications as well as anybody else on this site.
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Re: The Moon
« Reply #14 on: November 10, 2007, 12:19:44 PM »
I didn't realize that you were an official FE'er.
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Re: The Moon
« Reply #15 on: November 10, 2007, 12:21:48 PM »
Well, I guess I am.  Way to take this debate on an irrelevant tangent.  ::)
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Re: The Moon
« Reply #16 on: November 10, 2007, 12:29:35 PM »
I wouldn't say I officially speak for the FES either.  I'm kinda a newb.  That said, I am starting a local chapter at my uni soon.
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Re: The Moon
« Reply #17 on: November 10, 2007, 01:37:17 PM »
Uhhh, do you really expect to find anyone who will believe the earth is flat?

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Re: The Moon
« Reply #18 on: November 10, 2007, 01:42:41 PM »
Actually, in Usernames defense in that regard, you can find people of like mind almost anywhere you go. Although I happen to believe in a RE... I'm betting if UN does a good job putting out the info and trying to start a chapter... it will happen. Just depends on how much you want to pursue your ideals.

Kind of like my Irish music. I play whistle, there wasn't a jam session/Hoolie in the area. Took me months to get some people together that also played Irish / Celtic type music, but 4 years later... it's still going and growing (sometimes as many as 20 people)! ;D

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Re: The Moon
« Reply #19 on: November 10, 2007, 01:57:02 PM »
Kind of like my Irish music. I play whistle
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Re: The Moon
« Reply #20 on: November 10, 2007, 08:49:42 PM »
did you know that the Russians were the first to send an unmanned probe behind the moon and take pictures?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Far_side_of_the_Moon

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Re: The Moon
« Reply #21 on: November 11, 2007, 07:53:12 AM »
did you know that the Russians were the first to send an unmanned probe behind the moon and take pictures?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Far_side_of_the_Moon

FE will say that the Soviet space agency was also conspiring with NASA to cover up the truth.

There is no dark side of the Moon, as a matter of fact it's all dark.

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Re: The Moon
« Reply #22 on: November 11, 2007, 07:45:33 PM »
perhaps i missed something in the FAQ: what's the FE explanation for phases of the moon?

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Re: The Moon
« Reply #23 on: November 11, 2007, 08:07:54 PM »
perhaps i missed something in the FAQ: what's the FE explanation for phases of the moon?

Lunar phase in FE refers to the appearance of the illuminated portion of the Moon as seen by an observer on Earth. The lunar phases vary cyclically as the Moon orbits the hub of the Earth, according to the changing geometry of the Moon and Sun, which rotate at slightly different velocities. One half of the lunar surface is always illuminated by the Sun, and is hence bright, but the portion of the illuminated hemisphere that is visible to an observer can vary from 100% (full moon) to 0% (new moon). The boundary between the illuminated and unilluminated hemispheres is called the terminator.

The Moon exhibits different phases as the relative geometry of Sun and Moon change, appearing as a full moon when the Sun and Moon are on opposite sides of the observer, and as a new moon it is not visible at night when they are on the same side of the observer. The phases of full moon and new moon are examples of syzygies, which occur when the Moon, observer, and Sun lie approximately in a straight line. The time between two full moons, or between successive occurrences of the same phase, is about 29.53 days (29 days, 12 hours, 44 minutes) on average. This synodic month is longer than the time it takes the Moon to make one orbit about the hub of the Earth with respect to the stars (the sidereal month), which is about 27.32 days. This difference is caused by the fact that the Moon system is orbiting about the Sun at the same time the Moon is orbiting about the hub of the Earth. The actual time between two syzygies is variable because the orbit of the Moon is elliptic and subject to various periodic perturbations, which change the velocity of the Moon.
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Re: The Moon
« Reply #24 on: November 12, 2007, 12:48:33 AM »
In your definition, it appears that the appearance of the moon's phase, is dependent on the observers position on the earth, in such a way as to be varied 

However, if I call my friend on the west coast - and I'm on the east coast - and we both are looking at the same moon phase... how is that possible according to your statement since it relies on perspective so much it seems?

Thanks!

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Re: The Moon
« Reply #25 on: November 12, 2007, 01:46:17 AM »
One half of the lunar surface is always illuminated by the Sun, and is hence bright, but the portion of the illuminated hemisphere that is visible to an observer can vary from 100% (full moon) to 0% (new moon). The boundary between the illuminated and unilluminated hemispheres is called the terminator.

Tom,

How on earth can the "spotlight" sun illuminate the moon, partially or even fully?

Come to think of it, how can a non-spotlight sun fully illuminate the moon with the brightness of daylight, when it is nowhere to be seen on the sky?

MS
I haven't performed it and I've never claimed to. I've have trouble being in two places at the same time.

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Re: The Moon
« Reply #26 on: November 12, 2007, 07:29:28 AM »
Look people, the good old Moon orbits roughly a quarter mile away from Earth, the only one object that can cast shadows on it to cause the lunar phases and that object is Earth. This is why the FE theorists cling so desperately to the 3000 miles distance, otherwise they could never explain the lunar phases. The only problem is that the Earth-Moon distance can be measured relatively easily even by a modest astronomy club let alone a respectable university, which makes the conspiracy theory laughable at best.

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Re: The Moon
« Reply #27 on: November 12, 2007, 07:30:51 AM »
The only problem is that the Earth-Moon distance can be measured relatively easily even by a modest astronomy club let alone a respectable university, which makes the conspiracy theory laughable at best.

What does the distance of the Moon to the Earth have to do with the conspiracy?
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Re: The Moon
« Reply #28 on: November 12, 2007, 07:43:59 AM »
The only problem is that the Earth-Moon distance can be measured relatively easily even by a modest astronomy club let alone a respectable university, which makes the conspiracy theory laughable at best.

What does the distance of the Moon to the Earth have to do with the conspiracy?

If Moon = RE distance
Then FE = false

If FE = false
Then Conspiracy = false

If Conspiracy = false
Then laughing = true ;D ;D ;D
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Re: The Moon
« Reply #29 on: November 12, 2007, 07:49:54 AM »
if (Moon==RE distance)
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revise FE
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