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Re: the space shuttle "conspiracy"
« Reply #90 on: November 20, 2007, 01:49:58 PM »
Quote from: SparteX on November 20, 2007, 01:46:01 PM
Oh god no eric now they're gonna start claiming the government has cloaks placed on the shuttles so we don't see them land or take off the second time to make the fake landing  ::)

Why?
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Re: the space shuttle "conspiracy"
« Reply #91 on: November 20, 2007, 01:51:40 PM »
Quote from: divito the truthist on November 20, 2007, 01:49:58 PM
Quote from: SparteX on November 20, 2007, 01:46:01 PM
Oh god no eric now they're gonna start claiming the government has cloaks placed on the shuttles so we don't see them land or take off the second time to make the fake landing  ::)

Why?
"the shuttle would have to do everything the ship in star trec 4 could"
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Re: the space shuttle "conspiracy"
« Reply #92 on: November 20, 2007, 01:54:55 PM »
Quote from: SparteX on November 20, 2007, 01:51:40 PM
"the shuttle would have to do everything the ship in star trec 4 could"

Who said that?
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Re: the space shuttle "conspiracy"
« Reply #93 on: November 20, 2007, 01:56:48 PM »
Quote from: divito the truthist on November 20, 2007, 01:54:55 PM
Quote from: SparteX on November 20, 2007, 01:51:40 PM
"the shuttle would have to do everything the ship in star trec 4 could"

Who said that?
Read the OP
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Re: the space shuttle "conspiracy"
« Reply #94 on: November 20, 2007, 01:59:44 PM »
Oh, Eric said it; big deal.
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Re: the space shuttle "conspiracy"
« Reply #95 on: November 20, 2007, 03:07:01 PM »
how much evidence do you have for a FE from what i have seen on here practicly zilch, aprt from some "observetions" by accliamed scitists from the 1800s. MOVE ON!! we have space travl we know the world is round accept it. i bet you love you Satalite TV at home lol in fact you probably just used a satalite to post thes comments on these stupid forums!
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Re: the space shuttle "conspiracy"
« Reply #96 on: November 20, 2007, 03:09:22 PM »
No "studies" of a flat earth have been made since the 1800's as stated above. Space travel wasn't even a concept back then! what makes you so damned sure the space programme is a conspiracy. Show me proof of it being so rather than allogations.
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eric bloedow

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« Reply #97 on: November 20, 2007, 05:42:42 PM »
ok, let me repeat it: FErs claim the Space Shuttle does NOT actually fly into space, it actually secretly lands on earth somewhere.

but just HOW would it avoid being spotted by anyone with a camera during these "secret" landings? THAT would require a "cloaking device" like in Star Trek 4.
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« Reply #98 on: November 20, 2007, 05:44:47 PM »
I give eric 10 days before he caves in and joins the FE cause.
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Re: the space shuttle "conspiracy"
« Reply #99 on: November 20, 2007, 05:45:34 PM »
i think he already secretly believes in FE
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Re: the space shuttle "conspiracy"
« Reply #100 on: November 20, 2007, 05:53:03 PM »
Quote from: eric bloedow on November 20, 2007, 05:42:42 PM
ok, let me repeat it: FErs claim the Space Shuttle does NOT actually fly into space, it actually secretly lands on earth somewhere.

but just HOW would it avoid being spotted by anyone with a camera during these "secret" landings? THAT would require a "cloaking device" like in Star Trek 4.

No, it would require a landing somewhere far away from the civilized world.  For example, some undisclosed spot in the middle of the ocean.  No need for a cloaking device at all!  :D
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Re: the space shuttle "conspiracy"
« Reply #101 on: November 20, 2007, 05:55:16 PM »
how does it land in the water?

and then take off, climb to sufficient height and land again?
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Re: the space shuttle "conspiracy"
« Reply #102 on: November 20, 2007, 05:58:49 PM »
Quote from: paradiselost on November 20, 2007, 05:55:16 PM
how does it land in the water?

and then take off, climb to sufficient height and land again?

I'm not arguing that some kind of landing platform wouldn't need to be involved.  As for taking off, climbing to sufficient height, and landing again, I don't see where the problem is.  Obviously the initial launch is Hollywooded up and I don't think it would take as much effort to make it appear that the shuttle is landing as you do.
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Re: the space shuttle "conspiracy"
« Reply #103 on: November 20, 2007, 06:00:26 PM »
K one more question...

what about the Colombia accident?
Surely the lives of seven astronauts were not traded just to keep the level of the conspiracy 'believable'
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Re: the space shuttle "conspiracy"
« Reply #104 on: November 20, 2007, 06:10:14 PM »
yeah, and the challenger disaster. was that a hoax?
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Re: the space shuttle "conspiracy"
« Reply #105 on: November 20, 2007, 06:20:23 PM »
Either that or it was an honest accident.  No one here disputes that the shuttle actually takes off.  It just either doesn't reach space or doesn't stay there for an extended period of time.
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Re: the space shuttle "conspiracy"
« Reply #106 on: November 20, 2007, 06:24:48 PM »
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I give eric 10 days before he caves in and joins the FE cause.
I don't want him on my side.
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Re: the space shuttle "conspiracy"
« Reply #107 on: November 20, 2007, 06:51:33 PM »
Quote from: eric bloedow on November 20, 2007, 06:10:14 PM
yeah, and the challenger disaster. was that a hoax?
It was staged in Hollywood, just like how they did with World War 2.
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Re: the space shuttle "conspiracy"
« Reply #108 on: November 20, 2007, 08:13:26 PM »
Ugh! You people and WWII !!!       >:(So
So, great-grandparents came home in boxes or worse yet - very  small boxes to  provide a hoax?
No matter how evil or deceitful you think our country is, killing thousands upon thousands of it's own people in a short span of time is not on the menu. For God's sake just stop and think about what you're saying. How many lives do you need for evidence?  American lives. You don't even have to include all the hundred+ thousand other casualties.

Please tell me you're joking.
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Re: the space shuttle "conspiracy"
« Reply #109 on: November 20, 2007, 10:15:49 PM »
Quote from: Jack- on November 20, 2007, 08:17:23 PM
>:(

So I take it you're not joking. Well thanks but no thanks - I can deal with and enjoy discussing FE vs RE theories, how things could work, etc. But I'm not about to stick around while someone actually thinks WWII was a made up "Hollywood" hoax. Too many lives were lost... too many sacrifices made, all to take apart one man's dream of world domination.

It was a war that needed to be fought for sure, but the sacrifice was great. Millions of *our* lives were saved,  from those that were lost.

I sincerely hope as you get older you will come to see the folly of your statements.

Feel free to comment however you like, negative or positive is fine by me since your opinion has dropped to a mere nothing in my observation.

Take care all, it was fun.
John
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Re: the space shuttle "conspiracy"
« Reply #110 on: November 21, 2007, 12:22:43 AM »
Bye!  :)
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Re: the space shuttle "conspiracy"
« Reply #111 on: November 21, 2007, 02:06:18 PM »
Quote from: Thus Spake Roundy on November 20, 2007, 06:20:23 PM
Either that or it was an honest accident.  No one here disputes that the shuttle actually takes off.  It just either doesn't reach space or doesn't stay there for an extended period of time.
What about the live videos of the astronaughts reaching space from takeoff? when gravity suddenly becomes zero for them.
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Re: the space shuttle "conspiracy"
« Reply #112 on: November 21, 2007, 02:07:20 PM »
Yes, I saw the same thing in the movie "Apollo 13".
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Re: the space shuttle "conspiracy"
« Reply #113 on: November 21, 2007, 02:10:33 PM »
Quote from: Thus Spake Roundy on November 21, 2007, 02:07:20 PM
Yes, I saw the same thing in the movie "Apollo 13".
AHAHAHAHAHAHAH HOLY SHIT MAN!   ;D ;D ;D

real comedy act aren't you ¬_¬  ::) ::)
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Re: the space shuttle "conspiracy"
« Reply #114 on: November 21, 2007, 02:30:58 PM »
ok, consider the LOGISTICAL problems of the "floating platform" theory: that is, keeping it supplied with food, fresh water, fuel for the shuttle, etc., while hiding ALL of that from EVERYONE...

even if "the conspiracy" had a secret seaport, they would still have to get all of that from the farms, refineries, etc to the seaport, which would be noticed!

and that's assuming nobody saw the fence and the "no trespassing" signs around the port and wondered who it belonged to...
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Re: the space shuttle "conspiracy"
« Reply #115 on: November 21, 2007, 02:46:56 PM »
I think you're adding way more than is necessary for the floating platform theory to work.
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« Reply #116 on: November 21, 2007, 02:51:37 PM »
that's my point: it's too complicated to work IN REAL LIFE!

or does "the conspiracy" have alien technology, like "men in black"?
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Re: the space shuttle "conspiracy"
« Reply #117 on: November 21, 2007, 02:55:51 PM »
Quote from: eric bloedow on November 21, 2007, 02:51:37 PM
that's my point

No, it's not.

My point is that it's not nearly as complicated as you make it out to be.
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« Reply #118 on: November 21, 2007, 03:02:58 PM »
ok, so how would YOU run an operation like that?
how do YOU think "the conspiracy" does it?
i'd really like to hear ANY explanation for how "the conspiracy" COULD do any of the things you are so certain it DOES do!
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Re: the space shuttle "conspiracy"
« Reply #119 on: November 21, 2007, 03:03:54 PM »
 ::)
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