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« on: November 03, 2007, 07:50:59 PM »
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1.   What are the rocks resting on under the earth?  Or what are the elephants and turtle standing on?
2.   If, in fact, the earth is supported by elephants and a turtle, how do they eat?  And if one would die, wouldn’t the earth fall over?
3.   How did the elephants and the turtle get off the earth and under it?
4.   Elephants and turtles are severely different in sizes… how in the hell does this balance out that they can support the earth together??
5.   The government, NASA, and all the pilots on the earth are part of this “conspiracy”… how come my grandfather was a pilot, my friend’s dad is a pilot, and my boyfriend has had flying lessons, and my boyfriend’s uncle is an aeronautical engineer for the air force, but none of them believe the earth is flat?
6.   How can there be a conspiracy with no motive?  Do you really believe that all the governments in the world are lying to every person on the earth just so that they can kick back and laugh at us?
7.   Where are these “other planets?”  Why isn’t the earth one of the planets?  What makes earth special?  How are the “other planets” supported?
8.   So basically, the entire universe rests in our “sky” and is above us? 
9.   First, your Q&A claims there is a giant ice wall blocking us in, then it switches to saying it’s not really ice, but a mountain range… make up your mind.  Then, tell me how far this icewall-mountainrange stretches?  Wouldn’t that really be the edge of the earth… not the “ice wall?”
10.   Good job – you came up with some bizarre theory for lunar eclipses, but what about solar eclipses???

11.   There is a world sail boat race that takes place every year.  I have had the luxury of meeting some of these sailors twice.  They believe that they are sailing around the world.  They have not fallen off the edge of the world or ran into a huge ice wall… why is this????

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Re: questions your Q&A inspired...
« Reply #1 on: November 03, 2007, 08:14:48 PM »
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Feel free to answer 1, 3, or all 11... just post the number and your answer to it.

1.   What are the rocks resting on under the earth?  Or what are the elephants and turtle standing on?

They are being propelled upwards by dark matter.

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2.   If, in fact, the earth is supported by elephants and a turtle, how do they eat?  And if one would die, wouldn’t the earth fall over?
3.   How did the elephants and the turtle get off the earth and under it?
4.   Elephants and turtles are severely different in sizes… how in the hell does this balance out that they can support the earth together??

There are no elephants and turtles.

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5.   The government, NASA, and all the pilots on the earth are part of this “conspiracy”… how come my grandfather was a pilot, my friend’s dad is a pilot, and my boyfriend has had flying lessons, and my boyfriend’s uncle is an aeronautical engineer for the air force, but none of them believe the earth is flat?

A conspiracy usually means a cover up.

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6.   How can there be a conspiracy with no motive?  Do you really believe that all the governments in the world are lying to every person on the earth just so that they can kick back and laugh at us?

The budget for NASA is not used for space travel.  They lie that the earth is round to support space travel and get money.

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7.   Where are these “other planets?”  Why isn’t the earth one of the planets?  What makes earth special?  How are the “other planets” supported?

The other planets are spherical.

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8.   So basically, the entire universe rests in our “sky” and is above us?

Higher.

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9.   First, your Q&A claims there is a giant ice wall blocking us in, then it switches to saying it’s not really ice, but a mountain range… make up your mind.  Then, tell me how far this icewall-mountainrange stretches?  Wouldn’t that really be the edge of the earth… not the “ice wall?”

The Ice Wall is Antarctica



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10.   Good job – you came up with some bizarre theory for lunar eclipses, but what about solar eclipses???

Same thing, shadow object.

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11.   There is a world sail boat race that takes place every year.  I have had the luxury of meeting some of these sailors twice.  They believe that they are sailing around the world.  They have not fallen off the edge of the world or ran into a huge ice wall… why is this????

Have they gone over Antarctica?

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« Reply #2 on: November 03, 2007, 08:19:04 PM »
1.   What are the rocks resting on under the earth? 

Or what are the elephants and turtle standing on?
Rocks.

It is just a religious believe.

2.   If, in fact, the earth is supported by elephants and a turtle, how do they eat?  And if one would die, wouldn’t the earth fall over?
It is just a religious believe.

3.   How did the elephants and the turtle get off the earth and under it?
It is just a religious believe.

4.   Elephants and turtles are severely different in sizes… how in the hell does this balance out that they can support the earth together??
It is just a religious believe.

5.   The government, NASA, and all the pilots on the earth are part of this “conspiracy”… how come my grandfather was a pilot, my friend’s dad is a pilot, and my boyfriend has had flying lessons, and my boyfriend’s uncle is an aeronautical engineer for the air force, but none of them believe the earth is flat?
They don't have to believe the earth is flat.

6.   How can there be a conspiracy with no motive? 

Do you really believe that all the governments in the world are lying to every person on the earth just so that they can kick back and laugh at us?
Who said there is a conspiracy with no motive? 

The governments could do that.

7.   Where are these “other planets?”  Why isn’t the earth one of the planets?  What makes earth special?  How are the “other planets” supported?
The other planets are in the solar system. The Earth is flat, so it is not the same as other planets. The Earth is flat, so it is special.

8.   So basically, the entire universe rests in our “sky” and is above us? 
Why not?

9.   First, your Q&A claims there is a giant ice wall blocking us in, then it switches to saying it’s not really ice, but a mountain range… make up your mind.  Then, tell me how far this icewall-mountainrange stretches?  Wouldn’t that really be the edge of the earth… not the “ice wall?”
The ice wall stretches and circles around the flat Earth. It would be the edge.

10.   Good job – you came up with some bizarre theory for lunar eclipses, but what about solar eclipses???
What about it?

11.   There is a world sail boat race that takes place every year.  I have had the luxury of meeting some of these sailors twice.  They believe that they are sailing around the world.  They have not fallen off the edge of the world or ran into a huge ice wall… why is this????
Because they have brains, they don't fall over the edge.

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« Reply #3 on: November 03, 2007, 08:38:58 PM »
simply put: FE'rs believe the planet earth is the SOLE exeption to EVERY law of physics in the entire UNIVERSE!

i'd like to hear how their absurd "universal accelleration" keeps jupiter's moons from flying away, or saturn's rings.

Re: questions your Q&A inspired...
« Reply #4 on: November 03, 2007, 09:51:06 PM »
simply put: FE'rs believe the planet earth is the SOLE exeption to EVERY law of physics in the entire UNIVERSE!

i'd like to hear how their absurd "universal accelleration" keeps jupiter's moons from flying away, or saturn's rings.
They believe those have gravity.

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« Reply #5 on: November 03, 2007, 10:16:54 PM »
you guys have sorta answered some of my questions... but you mostly evade my questions and don't answer them.  i'm a college graduate, there is no need to define words like "conspiracy," just answer by questions using observable and measurable evidence...

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« Reply #6 on: November 03, 2007, 10:17:56 PM »
simply put: FE'rs believe the planet earth is the SOLE exeption to EVERY law of physics in the entire UNIVERSE!

i'd like to hear how their absurd "universal accelleration" keeps jupiter's moons from flying away, or saturn's rings.
They believe those have gravity.
No, gravity does not exist.


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« Reply #7 on: November 03, 2007, 10:24:59 PM »
simply put: FE'rs believe the planet earth is the SOLE exeption to EVERY law of physics in the entire UNIVERSE!

i'd like to hear how their absurd "universal accelleration" keeps jupiter's moons from flying away, or saturn's rings.
They believe those have gravity.
No, gravity does not exist.
Your FAQ says otherwise.

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« Reply #8 on: November 03, 2007, 10:31:35 PM »
Einstein says otherwise.


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Re: questions your Q&A inspired...
« Reply #9 on: November 03, 2007, 11:21:54 PM »
simply put: FE'rs believe the planet earth is the SOLE exeption to EVERY law of physics in the entire UNIVERSE!

i'd like to hear how their absurd "universal accelleration" keeps jupiter's moons from flying away, or saturn's rings.
They believe those have gravity.
No, gravity does not exist.
Your FAQ says otherwise.
No it doesn't.
Where did you educate the biology, in toulet?

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« Reply #10 on: November 04, 2007, 10:59:56 AM »
simply put: FE'rs believe the planet earth is the SOLE exeption to EVERY law of physics in the entire UNIVERSE!

i'd like to hear how their absurd "universal accelleration" keeps jupiter's moons from flying away, or saturn's rings.
They believe those have gravity.
No, gravity does not exist.

so in other words we are tied to the earth's surface by invisible strings that keep us from flying away and falling off the earth??

Re: questions your Q&A inspired...
« Reply #11 on: November 04, 2007, 11:03:26 AM »
simply put: FE'rs believe the planet earth is the SOLE exeption to EVERY law of physics in the entire UNIVERSE!

i'd like to hear how their absurd "universal accelleration" keeps jupiter's moons from flying away, or saturn's rings.

let me fly off on a tangent of some sort here... i'm going to reason the way the flat earth believers do and see if we can come up with another strange theory.

if earth is the exception to everything else in the universe... that would make earth better than everything else.  i mean, if earth defies all laws of physics, then it must be better than everything else.  and if it defies all laws of physics, then it exists outside reality.  if it exists outside of reality, and it is better than everything else, then essentially isn't earth heaven?  or some other after life or dimension or something?? 

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« Reply #12 on: November 04, 2007, 11:52:24 AM »
so in other words we are tied to the earth's surface by invisible strings that keep us from flying away and falling off the earth??
Well, that is what you are supposedly saying.  Tiny invisible strings named gravitons that are undetectable.
So long and thanks for all the fish

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« Reply #13 on: November 04, 2007, 04:39:04 PM »
so in other words we are tied to the earth's surface by invisible strings that keep us from flying away and falling off the earth??
You're the one that believes in gravity.


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« Reply #14 on: November 04, 2007, 07:31:20 PM »
simply put: FE'rs believe the planet earth is the SOLE exeption to EVERY law of physics in the entire UNIVERSE!

i'd like to hear how their absurd "universal accelleration" keeps jupiter's moons from flying away, or saturn's rings.
They believe those have gravity.
No, gravity does not exist.

so in other words we are tied to the earth's surface by invisible strings that keep us from flying away and falling off the earth??


Ouch. My irony.


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« Reply #15 on: November 05, 2007, 03:34:26 AM »
simply put: FE'rs believe the planet earth is the SOLE exeption to EVERY law of physics in the entire UNIVERSE!

Hey look at that, another fallacy. Keep 'em coming.
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« Reply #16 on: November 05, 2007, 04:44:01 AM »
At least they are not retarded flatearthers.  :P
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« Reply #17 on: November 05, 2007, 05:00:27 AM »
At least they are not retarded flatearthers.  :P

I agree.
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« Reply #18 on: November 05, 2007, 12:28:14 PM »
simply put: FE'rs believe the planet earth is the SOLE exeption to EVERY law of physics in the entire UNIVERSE!

i'd like to hear how their absurd "universal accelleration" keeps jupiter's moons from flying away, or saturn's rings.
They believe those have gravity.
No, gravity does not exist.

so in other words we are tied to the earth's surface by invisible strings that keep us from flying away and falling off the earth??


Ouch. My irony.


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At least he isnt some moron who likes to make himself look smart by acting as an apologist to a theory that was disproved thousands of years ago.


Moron. ::)
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« Reply #19 on: November 07, 2007, 05:18:01 AM »
I guess DDraw agrees with me.  :)
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« Reply #20 on: November 07, 2007, 01:05:15 PM »
I've asked this before and never gotten an answer, but I'll try again:

If the earth is indeed special (I.E. not a planet, flat, accelerating upwards etc...) then how did it come to exist?

REers have the BBT; what is the FET equivalent?

I expect a lot of double talk and questions thrown back at me in place of answers, but it would be nice if somebody would express a theory about the creation of the FE.
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« Reply #21 on: November 07, 2007, 05:06:43 PM »
I've asked this before and never gotten an answer, but I'll try again:

If the earth is indeed special (I.E. not a planet, flat, accelerating upwards etc...) then how did it come to exist?

It went through a special process.

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« Reply #22 on: November 07, 2007, 05:39:41 PM »
I've asked this before and never gotten an answer, but I'll try again:

If the earth is indeed special (I.E. not a planet, flat, accelerating upwards etc...) then how did it come to exist?

REers have the BBT; what is the FET equivalent?

I expect a lot of double talk and questions thrown back at me in place of answers, but it would be nice if somebody would express a theory about the creation of the FE.

My thought on it is that the FE is a flat plane of matter shot off straight up from the Big Bang.
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« Reply #23 on: November 07, 2007, 06:43:57 PM »
I've asked this before and never gotten an answer, but I'll try again:

If the earth is indeed special (I.E. not a planet, flat, accelerating upwards etc...) then how did it come to exist?

REers have the BBT; what is the FET equivalent?

I expect a lot of double talk and questions thrown back at me in place of answers, but it would be nice if somebody would express a theory about the creation of the FE.

My thought on it is that the FE is a flat plane of matter shot off straight up from the Big Bang.

So, was it shot into existence with oxygen and life already attached? If not, how did life end up appearing on the FE? And how did the ice wall develop?

Thanks for the answer, by the way. It's good to see somebody that doesn't sidestep questions and act like a douchebag. :)
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« Reply #24 on: November 07, 2007, 07:14:34 PM »
So, was it shot into existence with oxygen and life already attached? If not, how did life end up appearing on the FE? And how did the ice wall develop?

Thanks for the answer, by the way. It's good to see somebody that doesn't sidestep questions and act like a douchebag. :)

"Oxygen was almost nonexistent in earth's atmosphere before the evolution of water oxidation in photosynthetic bacteria."

Not that that fixes anything, I haven't really thought out an actual theory. It would acquire attributes as it went along I suppose, just as the actual Earth did.
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« Reply #25 on: November 07, 2007, 07:27:00 PM »
So, was it shot into existence with oxygen and life already attached? If not, how did life end up appearing on the FE? And how did the ice wall develop?

Thanks for the answer, by the way. It's good to see somebody that doesn't sidestep questions and act like a douchebag. :)
Oxygen is generated by photosynthesis and life is established after the surface of the flat Earth warms down to a reasonable, life-supporting temperature.

Ice Wall Theory
The Formation of the Ice Wall and Beginning of the Flat Earth

Unlike the RE, in which it first existed as a molten planet, the FE actually existed as an icy disc of matter. The icy layer contains huge amounts of dissolved CO2. In the beginning, the Sun starts at the center of the Earth, and thus heat is most concentrated at this location. There the ice melts over time, creating a large pool. As time passes, this pool spreads as nearby ice continues to melt. The melting process starts from the center of the Earth all the way to its edge. During this process, some of the ice directly converts into water vapor through sublimation: it occurs when temperature and pressure falls below the triple point (water). The water vapors rise into the atmosphere, which later condense into clouds.  Droplets of rain from these clouds generates warm water from the atmosphere, speeding up the melting process. The ice stops melting at the edge because it is farther away from heat source. Hence, the ice wall is created. The ice ages also contributed to the buildup of the ice wall. Lithospheric activity forms and maintains its mountain ranges. The hydrologic cycle dominates this system. [Note: The surface of the ice wall is NOT flat! It just happens to cover the mountains underneath it. This is like how some mountains on the RE are covered in ice.]

The process of melting:

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1 The icy flat Earth


2 The ice melts as heat is highly concentrated at the center


3 The ice continues to melt until it meets the edge


In the end, the ice stops melting because the edge is farther away from heat source, leaving an "ice wall" (rocky layers are underneath the ice). Thus, the melting process ceases. Lithospheric activity controls its mountain ranges.

Here is the side-view of the process (with the hydrologic cycle):

1. The icy flat Earth.


2. The ice at the center melts into liquid water. The water spreads.


3. Ice continues to melt and water continues to spread. At the same time, sublimation occurs.


4. Ice continues to melt and water continues to spread further. Sublimation continues.


5. Ice melts and water spreads. Evaporation makes progress.


6. The melting process stops near the edge. Condensation and precipitation occurs, generating clouds and rains.


And the cycle continues...


The Beginning of the Earth

The rocky continents underneath the thick layer of ice is revealed as the ice continues to melt. Then, once the surface reaches a suitable temperature for life, bacteria begin to appear. The first anaerobic bacteria do not require oxygen to survive. Due to the evolution process, photosynthetic bacteria (cyanobacteria) and plants also appear. Their photosynthesis generates oxygen from light (the Sun), water (the hydrologic cycle), and CO2 (from the melted ice).
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« Reply #26 on: November 08, 2007, 06:45:55 PM »
The ice stops melting at the edge because it is isolated from sources of heat. Hence, the ice wall is created. The ice ages also contributed to the buildup of the ice wall.

So, is it your contention that the planet began to sink inwards as the ice in the center melted?

Also, if this ice wall is really 150,000 feet tall, how come none of this ice has broken off and fallen into the ocean? It seems like, if that happened, there would be huge tsunamis and tidal waves affecting the areas nearest the location of said collapse.
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« Reply #27 on: November 08, 2007, 07:17:10 PM »
The ice stops melting at the edge because it is isolated from sources of heat. Hence, the ice wall is created. The ice ages also contributed to the buildup of the ice wall.

So, is it your contention that the planet began to sink inwards as the ice in the center melted?

Also, if this ice wall is really 150,000 feet tall, how come none of this ice has broken off and fallen into the ocean? It seems like, if that happened, there would be huge tsunamis and tidal waves affecting the areas nearest the location of said collapse.

hmmm. Where was that tsunami on boxing day a couple of years ago???
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« Reply #28 on: November 08, 2007, 09:38:49 PM »
So, is it your contention that the planet began to sink inwards as the ice in the center melted?
What? The planet doesn't sink.

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« Reply #29 on: November 08, 2007, 11:42:43 PM »
So, is it your contention that the planet began to sink inwards as the ice in the center melted?
What? The planet doesn't sink.

Ok. Then how exactly did the ice wall grow on all sides at the same time?
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