How does flat earth theory explain these experiments?

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How does flat earth theory explain these experiments?
« on: November 05, 2007, 11:19:26 AM »
Here are experiments that I've done in elementary school. I live on the coast, so it was easy for me, but you can repeat them yourself.


Looking At a Curved Earth

1) Put a level table next to the ocean.

2) Look over the top of the table, so that the horizon is just under the table.

3) If you look carefully, you will see that the horizon bulges slightly at the middle of your point of view, so that part of it is over the table, and the edges are under it.


A Sunset in Perspective

http://www.astro.princeton.edu/~clark/MeasECAct.html

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Re: How does flat earth theory explain these experiments?
« Reply #1 on: November 05, 2007, 12:43:19 PM »
i pointed that out myself, but FE'rs insist it MUST be an optical illision, like mirages.

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Re: How does flat earth theory explain these experiments?
« Reply #2 on: November 10, 2007, 03:10:25 PM »
Yes. The earth looks round, so it must be flat and it just looks round because of optical illusions.

Also, The FE lord and saviour Rowbotham "proved" the earth is flat.
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Re: How does flat earth theory explain these experiments?
« Reply #3 on: November 10, 2007, 03:28:38 PM »
Yes. The earth looks round, so it must be flat and it just looks round because of optical illusions.

Also, The FE lord and saviour Rowbotham "proved" the earth is flat.

No he didn't. Those experiments relating to the curvature of the earth all had a systematic error in them that the curvature of the earth is less than he gave credit for over just 6 miles.


EXPERIMENT

Axioms;
----Light always travels in a straight line.
----Light travels at 3x10^8m/s

If the Earth is flat then the light photons should impact the ground due to the acceleration of the Earth;

s=ut+0.5at^2

s=0.3m
u=0
t=?
a=-9.81ms^2

t=0.247309683s

Hence the light photon can only travel (d=st) 3x10^8 * 0.247... = 74192905.02m
Thus 74,192km

Yet we can only see 20 km or so to the horizon. So explain that.

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Re: How does flat earth theory explain these experiments?
« Reply #4 on: November 10, 2007, 03:34:36 PM »
Yes he did. You are wrong. Don't ask me why, you just are.
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Re: How does flat earth theory explain these experiments?
« Reply #5 on: November 10, 2007, 03:45:02 PM »
Yes he did. You are wrong. Don't ask me why, you just are.

What am I wrong about? I only commented that he didn't prove anything because his experiment was systematically flawed by design. That doesn't mean it is wrong it just needs to be conducted on a greater scale to replicate the results.

Anyhow you can't say someone is wrong about something unless you can show why that person is wrong and what he/she is wrong about.

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Re: How does flat earth theory explain these experiments?
« Reply #6 on: November 10, 2007, 03:48:33 PM »
Can you prove that you are not wrong?


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Re: How does flat earth theory explain these experiments?
« Reply #7 on: November 10, 2007, 04:32:48 PM »
Can you prove that you are not wrong?

A) Ask me to prove something specific rather than just ‘not wrong’
B) I will assume you mean prove the systematic error yes?

Ok first we need to lay down some axioms
----Pythagoras Theorem is true
----The radius of the earth if it was round is 6,356km

If you use Pythag with a tangent to a radii of length 1km then draw a right-angled triangle then;

6,356000m2 + 1000m2 =  6356000.079m

Hence a curvature of 7.9cm over one km

Then
6,356000m2 + 9650m2 =  6356002.832

7.33m over six miles

So far so fine for his experiment. However omitted from the text on this site but included elsewhere is the tiny fact that the telescope was not levelled. Hence all manner of things can occur.

The first one being that the level of water in the canal changes from one end to the other and is not equidistance in height above sea level even though the canal is of equal depth along its length. This height gradient along the canal is 0.0007m^1 as to allow a gentle flow of water to prevent stagnation.

Thus over 6miles or 9.65km the cannel drops in height by about 7m hence negating the curvature of the Earth. So of course he sees the straight line by eye because everything is within 0.5m lined up.

This is why I proposed a larger scale test which doesn’t involve waterways but perhaps a body of water like a lake. Plus use a much more accurate laser beam to test the level.

The error is in the experiment had a sprit level been used this error would have been omitted as the gradient value too small to detect by eye would have been showed up.

Is that proof enough?

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Re: How does flat earth theory explain these experiments?
« Reply #8 on: November 10, 2007, 05:59:37 PM »
if i remember, austria is an old, dis-used name for what is now Germany.
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Re: How does flat earth theory explain these experiments?
« Reply #9 on: November 10, 2007, 06:01:31 PM »
Yes he did. You are wrong. Don't ask me why, you just are.

What am I wrong about? I only commented that he didn't prove anything because his experiment was systematically flawed by design. That doesn't mean it is wrong it just needs to be conducted on a greater scale to replicate the results.

Anyhow you can't say someone is wrong about something unless you can show why that person is wrong and what he/she is wrong about.

Genmotty

He's just joking that you can't prove Rowbotham wrong.

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Re: How does flat earth theory explain these experiments?
« Reply #10 on: November 11, 2007, 01:41:12 AM »
You are wrong. Here is proof:

You = wrong

Rowbothams experiments are beautiful and holy and unmistakably correct because they marry up to FET, to say otherwise is blasphemy.
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Re: How does flat earth theory explain these experiments?
« Reply #11 on: November 11, 2007, 02:43:02 AM »
OTHERWISE!

sorry...

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Re: How does flat earth theory explain these experiments?
« Reply #12 on: November 11, 2007, 01:02:36 PM »

Is that proof enough?

Genmotty


NO

Riiiight....

Care to explain why it is not proof enough?


You are wrong. Here is proof:

You = wrong

Again care to explain why: "You=wrong"

"You" refers to a word used to describe someone whose name is unknown or used in general to refer to a person.

"Wrong" refers to something that is incorrect or flawed.

I am pretty sure both of those statements are not congruent onto each other. Additionally because you failed to prove this statement other than to state it as your axiom. That is not a proof but a required perquisite. In much the same way as a number is a concept of a value.

I would also much like to ask your maturity and age because of your responses as the ones I have been getting to my questions and points are equivalent to what you may expect in a primary school.

Thankyou,
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Re: How does flat earth theory explain these experiments?
« Reply #13 on: November 11, 2007, 06:54:12 PM »

Is that proof enough?

Genmotty


NO

Riiiight....

Care to explain why it is not proof enough?




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Re: How does flat earth theory explain these experiments?
« Reply #14 on: November 11, 2007, 07:02:35 PM »
You are wrong. Here is proof:

You = wrong

Rowbothams experiments are beautiful and holy and unmistakably correct because they marry up to FET, to say otherwise is blasphemy.
ROFLMAOZ

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eric bloedow

Re: How does flat earth theory explain these experiments?
« Reply #15 on: November 11, 2007, 07:32:44 PM »
in other words, the FE explanation is: "BECAUSE". that's all anyone will ever get from them.

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Re: How does flat earth theory explain these experiments?
« Reply #16 on: November 11, 2007, 07:33:55 PM »
actually no. But it's all you'll get this time, because I can't be bothered.
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Re: How does flat earth theory explain these experiments?
« Reply #17 on: November 12, 2007, 01:54:39 PM »
actually no. But it's all you'll get this time, because I can't be bothered.

Well it shows your maturity in a debate and if you are not going to voice a point and elaborate then your point is worthless.

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Re: How does flat earth theory explain these experiments?
« Reply #18 on: November 12, 2007, 02:04:32 PM »
More Criss Angel followers. Sigh.
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Re: How does flat earth theory explain these experiments?
« Reply #19 on: November 12, 2007, 03:18:09 PM »
Here are experiments that I've done in elementary school. I live on the coast, so it was easy for me, but you can repeat them yourself.


Looking At a Curved Earth

1) Put a level table next to the ocean.

2) Look over the top of the table, so that the horizon is just under the table.

3) If you look carefully, you will see that the horizon bulges slightly at the middle of your point of view, so that part of it is over the table, and the edges are under it.

lmao.


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Re: How does flat earth theory explain these experiments?
« Reply #20 on: November 12, 2007, 04:32:24 PM »
actually no. But it's all you'll get this time, because I can't be bothered.

Wow, now THAT's a real convert to the FE cause.  Won't even be bothered to answer.  ::)

What was it dear 'ole Engy said in another thread?

Oh, yes.

FE'ers* give up so easily.   :-*

Of course, HE said RE'ers give up easily, but it's equally applicable here.

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Re: How does flat earth theory explain these experiments?
« Reply #21 on: November 12, 2007, 04:43:08 PM »
Of course, HE said RE'ers give up easily, but it's equally applicable here.

More so than you think, since Agent Z is an REer.  ::)
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Re: How does flat earth theory explain these experiments?
« Reply #22 on: November 12, 2007, 04:44:37 PM »
Seriously?!   :o  Quite a convincing act!

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Re: How does flat earth theory explain these experiments?
« Reply #23 on: November 12, 2007, 04:59:45 PM »
Actually, I don't believe the earth is round, or flat.

My beliefs are entirely different. But that's another thread for another time. And yesterday, I was really ill and couldn't be bothered explaining. Sorry.

I've actually forgotten what the question was.
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