There is no god.

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Re: There is no god.
« Reply #330 on: January 07, 2008, 10:03:05 AM »
You sound angry!   It's not my fault you don't have a good understanding of the English language.    Perhaps you should complain to Merriam-Webster.  :D  I'm beginning to think that you were home schooled.   
Your post is the epitome of failure. I have an amazing understanding of the English language. It is not my fault that your dysfunctional brain cannot comprehend my words.

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Re: There is no god.
« Reply #331 on: January 07, 2008, 10:11:34 AM »
 :D  Try harder. 
I'm sorry. Am I to understand that when you have a boner you like to imagine punching the shit out of Tom Bishop? That's disgusting.

Re: There is no god.
« Reply #332 on: January 07, 2008, 12:11:32 PM »
I'm not the one failing basic reading ability.  ;)

I see that you have failed to show that this dispute has arisen as a result of my incapability’s (as apposed to yours). To wit: Your misunderstanding of my clarifications on Jesus' role in the trinity, no refutations there. Also quite telling: your inability to falsify God.

Have you decided on a set of definitions yet, or will they keep changing according to your will?

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Re: There is no god.
« Reply #333 on: January 07, 2008, 12:35:44 PM »
ooo.. took you awhile to come up with that one! 

Point out where I used different definitions for "magical" "mythical" and "fictional".  I don't recall defining fictional (or even using the term in regard to God).  I assure you that I was consistent with my usage of magical and mythical respectively,  but you go ahead reread my posts if you like.. not sure what good that would do, since you didn't grasp the meanings the first time. 

Now.. let's see you used some mighty big font to point out something pretty obvious.  I guess you just don't get rhetorical questions.  I wasn't accusing you of saying that Jesus wasn't entirely  God, it was a question designed to make you think about what you were saying.   You claim that God didn't have a corporeal body.  I say that according to Christian doctrine he did and that his corporeal body was Jesus.  Now.. either Jesus is God or he isn't, which is it? 

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Aww.. I bet you read that on wikipedia. 
I'm sorry. Am I to understand that when you have a boner you like to imagine punching the shit out of Tom Bishop? That's disgusting.

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Re: There is no god.
« Reply #334 on: January 07, 2008, 01:17:54 PM »
Alth..

Well, the astronaut girl DID make you emotionally respond. That HAS to be worth a lulz or two. I thought you were a droid.

But, spacechick, you're being intentionally obtuse and circling his main point.

Get a room you two :P
My problem with his ideas is that it is a ridiculous thing.

Genius. PURE, undiluted genius.

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Re: There is no god.
« Reply #335 on: January 07, 2008, 01:30:46 PM »
What is his main point? 
I'm sorry. Am I to understand that when you have a boner you like to imagine punching the shit out of Tom Bishop? That's disgusting.

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Re: There is no god.
« Reply #336 on: January 07, 2008, 01:32:09 PM »
There isn't one, but you are free to speculate. It's called "Nigga keep your eyes where my hands can see."

Farts in the wind...

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My problem with his ideas is that it is a ridiculous thing.

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Re: There is no god.
« Reply #337 on: January 07, 2008, 01:38:03 PM »
lol.. have a nice nap.
I'm sorry. Am I to understand that when you have a boner you like to imagine punching the shit out of Tom Bishop? That's disgusting.

Re: There is no god.
« Reply #338 on: January 08, 2008, 07:24:59 AM »
ooo.. took you awhile to come up with that one!
You expect me to spend my life on this forum? Please note that I take care to ensure that at least an occasional post of mine contains thought, which you apparently do not trouble with.

Point out where I used different definitions for "magical" "mythical" and "fictional".  I don't recall defining fictional (or even using the term in regard to God).  I assure you that I was consistent with my usage of magical and mythical respectively,  but you go ahead reread my posts if you like.. not sure what good that would do, since you didn't grasp the meanings the first time.

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    Arguing over the usage of the words magic and magical is kind of silly.  I understand that when people use the word magic they are usually  referring to card tricks, and illusions, but magic has a paranormal definition too (although you may not like that definition either) and that definition does fit to a certain degree.   In Christian view God has control over the natural world, to a nonbeliever that is magic.  It's just semantics.   

    Humans and the Earth are still here for us to observe, so is my dog.. where are the centaurs?  Where is God?  They are left behind in the myths that created them,  while humans and the Earth (the real parts of the myths) are still here.   Myths are just stories created by humans, for whatever purpose, so including humans and a few actual events  in them is natural.  This doesn't make humans and the Earth mythical.
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    God falls outside the definitions of magic for you because you obviously believe that the bible is historical fact.   People who look at the bible as religious propaganda tend to view God as a magical mythical being. 

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    You have acknowledged that it is presence in myth and being fictional that makes something mythical. So far no one (Dysfunction included) has established god as being fictional so use of the term is rather dishonest.

    What?    Why is it a requirement for one of us to establish that god is fictional?  Where is he then? Can you prove that he's real? 

    The applicable definitions are in bold.

    http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/myth
    myth

    Main Entry:
    Pronunciation:
        \ˈmith\
    Function:
        noun
    Etymology:
        Greek mythos
    Date:
        1830

    1 a: a usually traditional story of ostensibly historical events that serves to unfold part of the world view of a people or explain a practice, belief, or natural phenomenon b: parable allegory2 a: a popular belief or tradition that has grown up around something or someone; especially : one embodying the ideals and institutions of a society or segment of society <seduced by the American myth of individualism — Orde Coombs> b: an unfounded or false notion3: a person or thing having only an imaginary or unverifiable existence4: the whole body of myths
  • After failing to define God as magic, mythical, or non-existent you resort to "unverifiable"
    I am claiming that God is unverifiable.  Unverifiable = myth.    You can't rewrite the dictionary to suit your argument.   I think I have a much better grasp of the term mythical and therefore I can use it in regards to God.  I do not have to establish God as fictional.
     
Of course these are only the times you define things, as opposed to the many variations in usage.

Now.. let's see you used some mighty big font to point out something pretty obvious.  I guess you just don't get rhetorical questions.  I wasn't accusing you of saying that Jesus wasn't entirely  God, it was a question designed to make you think about what you were saying.   You claim that God didn't have a corporeal body.  I say that according to Christian doctrine he did and that his corporeal body was Jesus.  Now.. either Jesus is God or he isn't, which is it?
The large typeface was used to highlight the concepts that seem to escape your grasp. If at any time you are confused as to what I am saying, feel free to reread those highlighted words, taking as much time as is necessary for their meaning to permeate your cranium. I repeat: Jesus had a body and Jesus is a part of God. However, Jesus is only a part of God, and only a part of God was then in the body of Jesus. I realize that by using these words I assume you have at least a child's understanding of sums and parts, forgive me for this. I will try to simplify this for you.

Jesus = All God
But:
Jesus=/=All of God.
So:
Jesus = Part of God.

So Jesus, who is part of God, had a body, but God never had a body. Understand? The traditional Christian understanding of Jesus is as a singular incarnation of God
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Ecco Ignoranti: Behold the idiot.

Aww.. I bet you read that on wikipedia. 
How dense are you?

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ut cognoscatis quia in eo nullam causam invenio et purpureum vestimentum et dicit eis ecce homo

Or for you to not understad in your own language:
Quote from: John 19, King James Version
1Then Pilate therefore took Jesus, and scourged him.

 2And the soldiers platted a crown of thorns, and put it on his head, and they put on him a purple robe,

 3And said, Hail, King of the Jews! and they smote him with their hands.

 4Pilate therefore went forth again, and saith unto them, Behold, I bring him forth to you, that ye may know that I find no fault in him.

 5Then came Jesus forth, wearing the crown of thorns, and the purple robe. And Pilate saith unto them, Behold the man!
Ignorati: Latin for idiot.

I called you an idiot, and you think I needed Wikipedia to do it? Don't assume I rest at your level of cognitive retardation. Also note the reversal of status in the that of the accuser and the guilt, did you like that? When it was first said, you were already guilty of the charge. Your response only confirms the claim.

This post is a monument to your ignorance. Respond if you want, but I don't feel like beating a women again.

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Re: There is no god.
« Reply #339 on: January 08, 2008, 08:59:35 AM »
I'll tell you this. I question God at times when *he* takes from us exceptional people. People that wouldn't hurt a fly. Worked their asses off all their lives to provide for their family, somehow perpetually optimistic and able to lift those around them, dedicating their lives to Him - then to have God just kill them for no apparent reason whatsoever.

It's difficult to comprehend what God's reasoning is for such things. Since we are to assume that it's "God's work or God's will be done" and that this is all "His plan".. well it really fucking sucks sometimes. And don't give me the can't have the good without the bad bullshit either... killing the good doesn't create good either now does it?

Whatever, I'm just in a bad place right now. Good day all.
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Re: There is no god.
« Reply #340 on: January 08, 2008, 09:05:01 AM »
Althalus,
LOL... you are angry because you were out debated by a female?!  I kinda thought that was the case, but I was hoping it wasn't.   

Sorry dude,  you totally lost this one.  I am not dysfunction.. so showing me his posts to prove something that I said doesn't work. 

Honey, I didn't fail  to define God as magic, mythical, or non-existent.  You failed to grasp that unverifiable is part of the definition of myth.  I never tried to define God as non-existent.  I stand by the idea that he is mythical and that he can be considered magical. 

Instead of admitting that you didn't understand what "corporeal" meant you have gone on and on about the Trinity.  I understand what the Trinity is, dear,  I was raised Baptist.  This part of the argument is silly,  Jesus was God's corporeal form.  This doesn't mean that Jesus wasn't a part of God or that Jesus was God entirely.. or whatever you are floundering about trying to say.   Oh.. maybe you will understand this:  Jesus was God's corporeal incarnation (to use some of your own words).  I hope that helps. 

I am not trying to prove that God is non-existent.  I never was, and I never will.  I am highly skeptical of the Christian notion of god.. there are so many inconsistencies, I'd have to be blind not to. 

Now.. I hope you can get over the fact that I'm female and that I have a brain, and that I'm not afraid to express  an opinion.  I also hope that you will calm down a bit, there's no need for personal attacks and I apologize for insinuating that you are stupid several posts back.   
I'm sorry. Am I to understand that when you have a boner you like to imagine punching the shit out of Tom Bishop? That's disgusting.

Re: There is no god.
« Reply #341 on: January 08, 2008, 01:02:55 PM »
Althalus,
LOL... you are angry because you were out debated by a female?!  I kinda thought that was the case, but I was hoping it wasn't.
You are sorely mistaken.   

Sorry dude,  you totally lost this one.  I am not dysfunction.. so showing me his posts to prove something that I said doesn't work.
You agreed with the definitions you made, then choose your own when that raft sank. 

Honey, I didn't fail  to define God as magic, mythical, or non-existent.  You failed to grasp that unverifiable is part of the definition of myth.  I never tried to define God as non-existent.  I stand by the idea that he is mythical and that he can be considered magical.
Funny how you switched to unverifiable in only your last few posts then.

Instead of admitting that you didn't understand what "corporeal" meant you have gone on and on about the Trinity.  I understand what the Trinity is, dear,  I was raised Baptist.  This part of the argument is silly,  Jesus was God's corporeal form.  This doesn't mean that Jesus wasn't a part of God or that Jesus was God entirely.. or whatever you are floundering about trying to say.   Oh.. maybe you will understand this:  Jesus was God's corporeal incarnation (to use some of your own words).  I hope that helps.
You mean incarnation? Yes, I told you that already.

I am not trying to prove that God is non-existent.  I never was, and I never will.  I am highly skeptical of the Christian notion of god.. there are so many inconsistencies, I'd have to be blind not to.
Mildly interesting.

Now.. I hope you can get over the fact that I'm female and that I have a brain, and that I'm not afraid to express  an opinion.  I also hope that you will calm down a bit, there's no need for personal attacks and I apologize for insinuating that you are stupid several posts back.   
It's not the gender, the brain, or the opinion, it’s the lack of rational thought. The insults were mock serious in some cases, a continuation of arguments in others.

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Re: There is no god.
« Reply #342 on: January 08, 2008, 02:10:43 PM »
I'm not mistaken.  You're mad because you can't win this one.  That you lost to a female just makes your ass all the more achy. 

I am not dysfunction so I didn't make his posts.. is that hard to understand?  I asked you to show where I was inconsistent not where someone else was (not that he was either).   I didn't agree with any definitions that I made, I agreed with the definitions in the Merriam-Webster online dictionary.  Maybe you should spend more time reading there than you do wikipedia. 

I only made a few posts in this thread,  point to where I switched to unverifiable.  I assure you that I meant unverifiable from the beginning... right from where I posted the definition of myth and  made the applicable definitions bold. 

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You mean incarnation? Yes, I told you that already.

I mean corporeal incarnation, yes.  Glad you finally get it.  Too bad you're not big enough to admit that you just didn't know what corporeal meant when you first used it.  If you knew you wouldn't have mentioned goats and flaming asses.  It's OK everyone makes mistakes. 

Seriously, you are the one who lacks rational thought.  A rational person would admit when they've made a mistake and move on.  You got pissed and resorted to insults. 
I'm sorry. Am I to understand that when you have a boner you like to imagine punching the shit out of Tom Bishop? That's disgusting.

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Re: There is no god.
« Reply #343 on: January 08, 2008, 02:16:15 PM »
i get pissed and argue with trolls.
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Re: There is no god.
« Reply #344 on: January 08, 2008, 02:50:11 PM »
Go Space Cowgirl! You pwn dude.

Please elaborate on your concept of God.

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Re: There is no god.
« Reply #345 on: January 08, 2008, 06:22:16 PM »
This thread's title is almost certainly correct.  The odds of God's existing are long indeed, as the idea of God does not explain the ultimate question of existence, no valid arguments for his existence exist, etc.

True, it's technically unprovable, but so is Santa, the Magical Pink Unicorn, and fairies.

Also, it's technically not possible to prove that my pants are not sentient.  Are the odds of its sentience versus non-sentience exactly equal?  Hardly.

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Re: There is no god.
« Reply #346 on: January 08, 2008, 06:50:11 PM »
Redefining terms so that they bear no resemblance to the commonly accepted meaning is a great way to win an argument.

Apparently you have trouble recognizing sarcasm.

Would you please explain just how Christian scripture does not meet the definition of mythological that Space Cowgirl provided from Merriam Webster?

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1 a: a usually traditional story of ostensibly historical events that serves to unfold part of the world view of a people or explain a practice, belief, or natural phenomenon b: parable allegory 2 a: a popular belief or tradition that has grown up around something or someone; especially : one embodying the ideals and institutions of a society or segment of society <seduced by the American myth of individualism — Orde Coombs> b: an unfounded or false notion 3: a person or thing having only an imaginary or unverifiable existence4: the whole body of myths

That God be proven fictional is not required. A host of stories exist that have never been and can never be disproven, but you do not dispute their mythological nature. No, it is only when the myth is one you personally believe that you take issue with the term.
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Re: There is no god.
« Reply #347 on: January 08, 2008, 08:04:33 PM »
I'm not mistaken.  You're mad because you can't win this one
I lead a horse to water but it does not drink, horse wins.

I am not dysfunction so I didn't make his posts.. is that hard to understand?  I asked you to show where I was inconsistent not where someone else was (not that he was either).   I didn't agree with any definitions that I made, I agreed with the definitions in the Merriam-Webster online dictionary.  Maybe you should spend more time reading there than you do wikipedia.
Wikipedia's entries on crappy bands and 80's pop culture icons are far superior. Next!

I only made a few posts in this thread,  point to where I switched to unverifiable.  I assure you that I meant unverifiable from the beginning... right from where I posted the definition of myth and  made the applicable definitions bold.
Stick with it regardless.

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You mean incarnation? Yes, I told you that already.

I mean corporeal incarnation, yes.  Glad you finally get it.  Too bad you're not big enough to admit that you just didn't know what corporeal meant when you first used it.  If you knew you wouldn't have mentioned goats and flaming asses.  It's OK everyone makes mistakes.
:sigh:

I never objected to you saying that God had a body or a corporeal body, save for the distinction of only a part of God having a body. This was back when "somebody" was trying to establish God as a mythical creature, before retreating to simply mythical. I was saying that mythical creatures tend to have a very striking look, as opposed to taking the form of an average human. You seemingly claimed that the corporeal body made God mythological, I objected.

Seriously, you are the one who lacks rational thought.  A rational person would admit when they've made a mistake and move on.  You got pissed and resorted to insults.
You realize you've just refused to admit any mistakes, then insulted me?  ::)

Redefining terms so that they bear no resemblance to the commonly accepted meaning is a great way to win an argument.

Apparently you have trouble recognizing sarcasm.

Would you please explain just how Christian scripture does not meet the definition of mythological that Space Cowgirl provided from Merriam Webster?
Apparently you love you own sarcastic advice.

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mythological

  • adjective 1
relating to or found in mythology; mythical. 2 fictitious.

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mythical

  • adjective 1
occurring in or characteristic of myths or folk tales. 2 fictitious.
This definition was abandoned when you could no longer defend it, I savored the victory.

That God be proven fictional is not required. A host of stories exist that have never been and can never be disproven, but you do not dispute their mythological nature. No, it is only when the myth is one you personally believe that you take issue with the term.
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I say again, the burden of proof rests on those that make claims. In claiming the Christian God as mythical as according to the terms of the latest definition. You must first demonstrate that God is:
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1 a: a usually traditional story of ostensibly historical events that serves to unfold part of the world view of a people or explain a practice, belief, or natural phenomenon b: parable allegory 2 a: a popular belief or tradition that has grown up around something or someone; especially : one embodying the ideals and institutions of a society or segment of society <seduced by the American myth of individualism — Orde Coombs> b: an unfounded or false notion 3: a person or thing having only an imaginary or unverifiable existence4: the whole body of myths

Until then, toodle-doo.

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Re: There is no god.
« Reply #348 on: January 09, 2008, 08:39:59 AM »
You've resorted to complete nonsense. 

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I never objected to you saying that God had a body or a corporeal body, save for the distinction of only a part of God having a body. This was back when "somebody" was trying to establish God as a mythical creature, before retreating to simply mythical. I was saying that mythical creatures tend to have a very striking look, as opposed to taking the form of an average human. You seemingly claimed that the corporeal body made God mythological, I objected.

You objected repeatedly to my saying that god had a corporeal body.  It doesn't matter what mythical creatures "tend to have",  they didn't all have very striking looks and many of them appeared in human form.  I never claimed that Jesus made God mythological. 


I'm curious.. You said that you don't believe the bible is historical fact.  What do you call the parts of the bible that aren't historical fact?  Look over the definition of myth again. 
I'm sorry. Am I to understand that when you have a boner you like to imagine punching the shit out of Tom Bishop? That's disgusting.

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Re: There is no god.
« Reply #349 on: January 09, 2008, 09:01:50 AM »
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mythical

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occurring in or characteristic of myths or folk tales. 2 fictitious.
This definition was abandoned when you could no longer defend it, I savored the victory.

Wait, so God doesn't occur in myths or folk tales?

The correct phrasing would be that God is considered mythical. Whether or not it actually is well, you know...
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Re: There is no god.
« Reply #350 on: January 09, 2008, 05:22:00 PM »
This thread's title is almost certainly correct.  The odds of God's existing are long indeed, as the idea of God does not explain the ultimate question of existence, no valid arguments for his existence exist, etc.

True, it's technically unprovable, but so is Santa, the Magical Pink Unicorn, and fairies.

Also, it's technically not possible to prove that my pants are not sentient.  Are the odds of its sentience versus non-sentience exactly equal?  Hardly.
How can you calculate the odds of there being a god? That is like calculating the odds of what protons are.

Re: There is no god.
« Reply #351 on: January 09, 2008, 09:24:11 PM »
You've resorted to complete nonsense. 

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I never objected to you saying that God had a body or a corporeal body, save for the distinction of only a part of God having a body. This was back when "somebody" was trying to establish God as a mythical creature, before retreating to simply mythical. I was saying that mythical creatures tend to have a very striking look, as opposed to taking the form of an average human. You seemingly claimed that the corporeal body made God mythological, I objected.

You objected repeatedly to my saying that god had a corporeal body.  It doesn't matter what mythical creatures "tend to have",  they didn't all have very striking looks and many of them appeared in human form.  I never claimed that Jesus made God mythological.
I objected to your insinuations that the entirety of God was clothed in human flesh. You are now grasping at straws to maintain a facade of victory.

I'm curious.. You said that you don't believe the bible is historical fact.  What do you call the parts of the bible that aren't historical fact?
I said I don't believe the entirety of the bible is historical fact, namely from Genesis to Exodus. What else could there be? Parables? Poetry? Decrees of Law? LOL.

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mythical

  • adjective 1
occurring in or characteristic of myths or folk tales. 2 fictitious.
This definition was abandoned when you could no longer defend it, I savored the victory.

Wait, so God doesn't occur in myths or folk tales?

The correct phrasing would be that God is considered mythical. Whether or not it actually is well, you know...
Man appears in myth, but is not mythical. Thus, God must be proven to be fictitious to be mythical by this definition. Nobody could falsify God, so they instead moved on to unverifiable.

Re: There is no god.
« Reply #352 on: January 09, 2008, 09:30:13 PM »
Althalus is obviously stuck on the term fictitious as the secundo definition of myth, and is skirting the issues in the first.

And is soooo..... obviously pissed off at having been bested by (gasp!)... a girl.
Kudos to the cattle wrangling chika from the sky.

Hey! i've in mind this very moment that I can maybe work that into a plausable goddess to base a creation mythos around. For a nomadic bovine based pastoralist culture In a Bad B-movieType segment of a post-post modern, post catyclysmic probability curve; of course.  (wow! shades of Innanna and the Bull of Heaven, et al).

As far as the odds on god?

One might check around town for book: as it's said that,"in certain circles; people here will bet on anything."


 believe that; the Earth is flat until such time as I stand within the Space Station and personally see that it is a Globe.
or that the Earth is a sphere until such time as I stand upon the Icewall and personally see that it is a Flat Disk.

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Re: There is no god.
« Reply #353 on: January 10, 2008, 04:45:59 AM »
Man appears in myth, but is not mythical.

The men in the myth aren't mythical?

Thus, God must be proven to be fictitious to be mythical by this definition. Nobody could falsify God, so they instead moved on to unverifiable.

And again, we're back to the subjectivity of the argument.
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Re: There is no god.
« Reply #355 on: January 10, 2008, 06:26:57 AM »
Yes, I saw. I found that confusing because we were debating God's mythical consideration and not mankind's.

"Real" objects can appear in myths; I'm not sure how that detracts from God's ability to be fictitious in the minds of people.
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Re: There is no god.
« Reply #356 on: January 10, 2008, 06:39:15 AM »
You have said yourself: The burden of proof lies with those that make the claim. God was claimed to be mythical, they could not justify their usage, chose a new definition.

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Re: There is no god.
« Reply #357 on: January 10, 2008, 06:51:15 AM »
You have said yourself: The burden of proof lies with those that make the claim. God was claimed to be mythical, they could not justify their usage, chose a new definition.

I can't vouch for what occurred since I haven't gone back and read this entire thread.

The most accurate statement as I made earlier, is that God can be considered mythical.

In order to prove such a statement as done so in the thread title, would require defining what God is, what it means to not exist, be mythical, fictitious, what have you. Once you have the base, you can try and attempt it. That said, the chances of such an occurrence happening is extremely slim.
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Re: There is no god.
« Reply #358 on: January 10, 2008, 11:46:45 AM »
You have said yourself: The burden of proof lies with those that make the claim. God was claimed to be mythical, they could not justify their usage, chose a new definition.

I can't vouch for what occurred since I haven't gone back and read this entire thread.

The most accurate statement as I made earlier, is that God can be considered mythical.

In order to prove such a statement as done so in the thread title, would require defining what God is, what it means to not exist, be mythical, fictitious, what have you. Once you have the base, you can try and attempt it. That said, the chances of such an occurrence happening is extremely slim.

All your base are semantics.
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Re: There is no god.
« Reply #359 on: January 10, 2008, 12:05:59 PM »
Althalus is obviously stuck on the term fictitious as the secundo definition of myth, and is skirting the issues in the first.

And is soooo..... obviously pissed off at having been bested by (gasp!)... a girl.
Kudos to the cattle wrangling chika from the sky.

Hey! i've in mind this very moment that I can maybe work that into a plausable goddess to base a creation mythos around. For a nomadic bovine based pastoralist culture In a Bad B-movieType segment of a post-post modern, post catyclysmic probability curve; of course.  (wow! shades of Innanna and the Bull of Heaven, et al).

As far as the odds on god?

One might check around town for book: as it's said that,"in certain circles; people here will bet on anything."




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