More on guarding Ice Wall

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Saddam Hussein

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More on guarding Ice Wall
« on: October 31, 2007, 08:56:21 AM »
Paying the guards salaries aren't the only expenditures of guarding the Ice Wall:


Supposing for a moment that the government does guard it solely by posting men on it, these men are 150 in the air.  From that hight they can see at least 15 miles in every relevant direction (this of course is calculating using the RE model... on a FE they might see farther).  Thus you can cover the whole wall with just 78,225/30 = 2608 men.

You can decrease it further by giving them snowmobiles and having them ride between waypoints.  If they can ride 10 mph and still keep an eye on things, then in one hour one sixth the previous number -- or 652 men -- can cover the wall in an hour.  In fact, doing this gives them better coverage, since this way their 15-mile-radius field of vision doesn't have any holes.

Now take the terrain into account -- much of the Ice Wall is probably unapproachable except by air -- and you can trim down the numbers even further.

Strategically locate some helicopter pads (on the wall or floating) and you can have heavy armament on the scene in thirty minutes.  Assuming an Apache helicopter can fly 150 mph, in that time they could fly 75 miles, so we would need to place pads every 150 miles, requiring 521 pads.  Obviously, if you don't insist on thirty-minute response time, you can do with fewer.  Don't forget that the watchmen can see 15 miles away from the wall, so thirty minutes should be more than enough to intercept any boat that tries to approach, snap pictures, and sail to safety.

Of course, this is all assuming that the only means our governments have of detecting trespassers is by looking with their eyes.  We're neglecting radar and high-altitude spyplanes, probably with infrared cameras.

We're also neglecting intelligence.  Anybody who wants to travel to the ice wall has to leave from someplace, and these someplaces can be watched by agents as well.  There aren't too many good places to set on on such a journey from.  Then, such expeditions would also have to be planned, and agents could get words about them before they even start.  Once they've started, agents could monitor radio transmissions.  If they can discover tresspassers a thousand miles away instead of only fifteen, then maybe they don't need so big a force as you say.


Apaches?  Helicopter pads?  Heavy armament?  Secret agents?  This would cost hundreds of millions of dollars.  And how would NASA get all this stuff anyway?  They're not the military, they're just a bunch of corrupt civil servants.

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Re: More on guarding Ice Wall
« Reply #1 on: October 31, 2007, 09:21:31 AM »
It's a government conspiracy, NASA is just the faking-space-photos-and-travel part of it. The military would guard the ice wall.
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Re: More on guarding Ice Wall
« Reply #2 on: November 02, 2007, 01:46:12 PM »
I have made a thread that proves that if there is a conspiracy, it is limited to NASA:

http://theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=15597.0

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Re: More on guarding Ice Wall
« Reply #3 on: November 02, 2007, 01:48:45 PM »
Saddam, the only thing you an prove on this site is the fact you can;t prove anything.
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Re: More on guarding Ice Wall
« Reply #4 on: November 02, 2007, 01:51:36 PM »
I see no flaws with that thread.

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Re: More on guarding Ice Wall
« Reply #5 on: November 02, 2007, 01:55:07 PM »
The fact the you don't see any flaws is not the point. Logic and reason have no place here.
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Saddam Hussein

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Re: More on guarding Ice Wall
« Reply #6 on: November 02, 2007, 01:59:37 PM »
Wanker.

Is that better?

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Re: More on guarding Ice Wall
« Reply #7 on: November 02, 2007, 02:14:16 PM »
Apaches?  Helicopter pads?  Heavy armament?  Secret agents?  This would cost hundreds of millions of dollars.  And how would NASA get all this stuff anyway?  They're not the military, they're just a bunch of corrupt civil servants.

Just read about the current U.S. military expenditure and you will see the cost for those equipment isn't really a big deal at all.

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Re: More on guarding Ice Wall
« Reply #8 on: November 02, 2007, 02:15:41 PM »
Where did you educate the biology, in toulet?

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Re: More on guarding Ice Wall
« Reply #9 on: November 02, 2007, 04:35:09 PM »
Wanker.

Is that better?

Now ya geddin' it!
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Re: More on guarding Ice Wall
« Reply #10 on: November 02, 2007, 05:49:17 PM »
Will he ever realize the 'secret' to the conspiracy ::)

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Saddam Hussein

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Re: More on guarding Ice Wall
« Reply #11 on: November 03, 2007, 11:35:40 AM »
Maybe I will.  Maybe I will.  But seriously, I grow tired of defending the "conspiracy".  I just can't keep it up.  There's no arguing with FE logic.

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Re: More on guarding Ice Wall
« Reply #12 on: November 03, 2007, 03:06:34 PM »
has anyone ever seen a headline like this:
"antarctica exploration team vanishes without a trace. all search parties have also vanished"

oops, i forgot, FR'rs also believe every member of the media is also part of the govenment conspiracy.

including the ones who blow the whistle on government fraud and corruption?!?!

frankly, if the ice wall existed, the govenment wouldn't try to keep it a secret. they would build SPACEPORTS there and drop satellites off, instead of launching rockets!

oh, yes, how would they FEED those soldiers without anyone noticing the TONS of food being moved?

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Re: More on guarding Ice Wall
« Reply #13 on: November 03, 2007, 03:07:18 PM »
Satellites and rockets.  LOL.   :D
Where did you educate the biology, in toulet?