What benefits does believing in Flat Earth give you?

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What benefits does believing in Flat Earth give you?
« on: October 29, 2007, 02:06:16 PM »
Just a question to you FE'rs.

As far i know, believing in Flat Earth does not cause anything else that people will think you're stupid. But what are your opinions?


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Re: What benefits does believing in Flat Earth give you?
« Reply #1 on: October 29, 2007, 02:09:09 PM »
Just a question to you FE'rs.

As far i know, believing in Flat Earth does not cause anything else that people will think you're stupid. But what are your opinions?
Does not cause what?
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Re: What benefits does believing in Flat Earth give you?
« Reply #2 on: October 29, 2007, 02:14:49 PM »
Believing in flat earth gives you a ticket to hell.
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Re: What benefits does believing in Flat Earth give you?
« Reply #3 on: October 29, 2007, 02:37:40 PM »
Just a question to you FE'rs.

As far i know, believing in Flat Earth does not cause anything else that people will think you're stupid. But what are your opinions?

We do not merely "believe" that the earth is flat. We KNOW through test, trial, and experimentation that the earth is flat.

It's the Round Earth Theory which is a belief.
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Re: What benefits does believing in Flat Earth give you?
« Reply #4 on: October 29, 2007, 05:35:05 PM »
Just a question to you FE'rs.

As far i know, believing in Flat Earth does not cause anything else that people will think you're stupid. But what are your opinions?

We do not merely "believe" that the earth is flat. We KNOW through test, trial, and experimentation that the earth is flat.

It's the Round Earth Theory which is a belief.
We do not merely "believe" that the earth is round. We KNOW through test, trial, and experimentation that the earth is round.

It's the Flat Earth Theory which is a belief.
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Re: What benefits does believing in Flat Earth give you?
« Reply #5 on: October 30, 2007, 05:03:17 AM »
Just a question to you FE'rs.

As far i know, believing in Flat Earth does not cause anything else that people will think you're stupid. But what are your opinions?

We do not merely "believe" that the earth is flat. We KNOW through test, trial, and experimentation that the earth is flat.

It's the Round Earth Theory which is a belief.

Three words: Bull Bull Bull.

We KNOW the earth is round because FE is such a preposterous theory, and because of this stuff called EVIDENCE!
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Re: What benefits does believing in Flat Earth give you?
« Reply #6 on: October 30, 2007, 05:10:27 AM »
I agree, if any of you FE'ers can give me a pic of this ice wall you speak off then I will be amazed.
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Re: What benefits does believing in Flat Earth give you?
« Reply #7 on: October 30, 2007, 05:15:14 AM »
Oh, but they can't. Because
a) The ice wall does not exist.
b) Any images are either faked or images of antarctica
c) Photographic evidence is inadmissable on this forum.
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Re: What benefits does believing in Flat Earth give you?
« Reply #8 on: October 30, 2007, 05:58:22 AM »
If I see it this winter when I travel to the Antarctic I will post a picture, though it is unlikely.
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Re: What benefits does believing in Flat Earth give you?
« Reply #9 on: October 30, 2007, 06:30:00 AM »
Impossible more like, because there is no frickin' ice wall, either the earth is round, it is an infinite plane (hahaha) or the ice wall is magically unseeable for some reason. Oh, and photos can't be used as evidence.

Isn't it wierd that photographic evidence cannot be used to prove RE because it is "faked" by the conspiracy, yet obviously fake pictures are used in favour of FE?
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Re: What benefits does believing in Flat Earth give you?
« Reply #10 on: October 30, 2007, 06:40:02 AM »
It was not for evidence, it was for courtesy as someone asked.
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Re: What benefits does believing in Flat Earth give you?
« Reply #11 on: October 30, 2007, 06:42:25 AM »
Fair enough. Just so long as everyone's clear on that.
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Re: What benefits does believing in Flat Earth give you?
« Reply #12 on: October 30, 2007, 07:20:22 AM »
As per the OP, I don't think it helps or hurts much on a personal daily level at all for most people.
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Re: What benefits does believing in Flat Earth give you?
« Reply #13 on: October 30, 2007, 07:23:44 AM »
Just as long as no one finds out.

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Re: What benefits does believing in Flat Earth give you?
« Reply #14 on: October 30, 2007, 08:00:14 AM »
Believing in the flat earth gives me tax benefits
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Re: What benefits does believing in Flat Earth give you?
« Reply #15 on: October 30, 2007, 08:49:45 AM »
I agree, if any of you FE'ers can give me a pic of this ice wall you speak off then I will be amazed.

This is the 150 foot tall Ice Wall at the coast of Antarctica:

http://i19.tinypic.com/54dmo7o.jpg

Along the edge of our local area exists this massive 150 foot Ice Wall. The Ice Wall is a massive wall of ice that surrounds Antarctica. The shelf of ice is several hundred meters thick. This nearly vertical ice front to the open sea is more than 50 meters high above the water's surface.

The Ice Wall was discovered by Sir James Clark Ross, a polar explorer who was among the first to venture to Antarctica in an attempt to determine the position of the South Magnetic Pole. Upon confronting the massive vertical front of of ice he famously remarked

    "It was ... an obstruction of such character as to leave no doubt in my mind as to our future proceedings, for we might as well sail through the cliffs of Dover as to penetrate such a mass.

    It would be impossible to conceive a more solid-looking mass of ice; not the smallest appearance of any rent or fissure could we discover throughout its whole extent, and the intensely bright sky beyond it but too plainly indicated the great distance to which it reached southward."


The Ice Wall is a natural formation, a thick mass of floating ice that is attached to land, formed from and fed by tongues of glaciers extending outward from deep within the uncharted tundra into sheltered waters. Where there are no strong currents, the ice becomes partly grounded on the sea bottom and attaches itself to rocks and islands. The wall is pushed forward into the sea by glacial pressure until its forward growth is terminated.

The entire coast of the Ice Wall is not one single complete wall, however. There are actually a series of thousand mile long walls, divided by Transantarctic Mountain Ranges up to 11,500 feet high. The weight of The Ice Walls are so enormous that they have literally pressed the land two thirds of a mile (one kilometer) into the earth. Under the massive forces of their own weight, the ice walls deform and drag themselves outward. Very large glaciers called ice streams flow through them continually, transporting ice from deep inland out to the sea.

Beyond the 150 foot Ice Wall is anyone's guess. How far the ice extends; how it terminates; and what exists beyond it, are questions to which no present human experience can reply. All we at present know is, that snow and hail, howling winds, and indescribable storms and hurricanes prevail; and that in every direction "human ingress is barred by unsealed escarpments of perpetual ice," extending farther than eye or telescope can penetrate, and becoming lost in gloom and darkness. Some hold that the tundra of ice and snow stretches forever eternally.

Temperatures approach absolute zero the further one explores outwards. Exploration in this type of pitch black freezing environment beyond the light of the sun is impossible for any man or machine. We live on a vast plane with an unknown diameter and an unknown depth. Dr. Samuel Birley Rowbotham held that knowing the true dimensions of the Earth is something which will be forever be unknowable by man.
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Re: What benefits does believing in Flat Earth give you?
« Reply #16 on: October 30, 2007, 10:54:42 AM »
I agree, if any of you FE'ers can give me a pic of this ice wall you speak off then I will be amazed.

This is the 150 foot tall Ice Wall at the coast of Antarctica:

http://i19.tinypic.com/54dmo7o.jpg

Along the edge of our local area exists this massive 150 foot Ice Wall. The Ice Wall is a massive wall of ice that surrounds Antarctica. The shelf of ice is several hundred meters thick. This nearly vertical ice front to the open sea is more than 50 meters high above the water's surface.

The Ice Wall was discovered by Sir James Clark Ross, a polar explorer who was among the first to venture to Antarctica in an attempt to determine the position of the South Magnetic Pole. Upon confronting the massive vertical front of of ice he famously remarked

    "It was ... an obstruction of such character as to leave no doubt in my mind as to our future proceedings, for we might as well sail through the cliffs of Dover as to penetrate such a mass.

    It would be impossible to conceive a more solid-looking mass of ice; not the smallest appearance of any rent or fissure could we discover throughout its whole extent, and the intensely bright sky beyond it but too plainly indicated the great distance to which it reached southward."



Ross is referring to the continent Antarctia, not the ice wall. Look:

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It would be impossible to conceive a more solid-looking mass of ice; not the smallest appearance of any rent or fissure could we discover throughout its whole extent, and the intensely bright sky beyond it but too plainly indicated the great distance to which it reached southward.

Ross's body size comparing to the size of the continent Antarctica is a big difference. Therefore, that and along with the equipment he had during his time, he thought it would take years to reach greater south of the Antarctic Pennisula.

The entire coast of the Ice Wall is not one single complete wall, however.
The Ice Wall is a single complete wall.

Beyond the 150 foot Ice Wall is anyone's guess. How far the ice extends; how it terminates; and what exists beyond it, are questions to which no present human experience can reply. All we at present know is, that snow and hail, howling winds, and indescribable storms and hurricanes prevail; and that in every direction "human ingress is barred by unsealed escarpments of perpetual ice," extending farther than eye or telescope can penetrate, and becoming lost in gloom and darkness. Some hold that the tundra of ice and snow stretches forever eternally.

Although I disagree with the flat Earth Theory, this stuff you put up is plainly controversial. All right, I'll stand by the FE side for once: the Ice wall IS the edge of the world. Get it straight, old man, as infinite plane means infinite matter. Pluging these into equivalence equations gets you disgusting results.

Temperatures approach absolute zero the further one explores outwards.

You really do have guts when you post things, right? Yes, you just proved that you do. This post proves that you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about so far from the start. Approaching Absolute zero? -273.15 degrees Celcius? Are you kidding me? There's no way Earth's temperature will ever approach that. Although superconductivity and superfluidity happens, matter starts to collapse and emits/absorbs no further energy as absolute zero is near. There will be no molecular or atomic movement when this temperature is reached. However, come to think about it, how do you know temperature will approach absolute zero?

Exploration in this type of pitch black freezing environment beyond the light of the sun is impossible for any man or machine. We live on a vast plane with an unknown diameter and an unknown depth. Dr. Samuel Birley Rowbotham held that knowing the true dimensions of the Earth is something which will be forever be unknowable by man.
Rowbotham thought it was an infinite plane because there weren't many advanced equipment allowing men to reach greater distances at short periods of time. Mind using something from this century?

By the way, I've seen this post before. You really do love copying and pasting for quick results.
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Re: What benefits does believing in Flat Earth give you?
« Reply #17 on: October 30, 2007, 11:06:54 AM »
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You really do have guts when you post things, right? Yes, you just proved that you do. This post proves that you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about so far from the start. Absolute zero? -273.15 degrees Celcius? Are you kidding me? Matter emits/absorbs no energy and collapses at that temperature. There is no atomic movement when this temperature is reached. Moreover, there wouldn't be even an infinite plane (assuming there is) if parts of the Earth reach that temperature. Infinite plane = infinite matter. Infinite matter + absolute zero = nothing.

This is a reading comprehension failure on your part.

I said near absolute zero. I did not say absolute zero.

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The Ice Wall is a single complete wall.

Proof?

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Re: What benefits does believing in Flat Earth give you?
« Reply #18 on: October 30, 2007, 11:16:22 AM »
Temperatures approach absolute zero the further one explores outwards. Exploration in this type of pitch black freezing environment beyond the light of the sun is impossible for any man or machine. We live on a vast plane with an unknown diameter and an unknown depth. Dr. Samuel Birley Rowbotham held that knowing the true dimensions of the Earth is something which will be forever be unknowable by man.
How do you know temperature approaches absolute zero?

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The Ice Wall is a single complete wall.

Proof?

Any proof that the Ice Wall is not a single complete wall? I don't believe in the existence of Ice Wall but I argue with what this site offers.

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Re: What benefits does believing in Flat Earth give you?
« Reply #19 on: October 30, 2007, 11:32:50 AM »
This is a reading comprehension failure on your part.

I said near absolute zero. I did not say absolute zero.

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At temperatures near 0 K, nearly all molecular motion ceases and ΔS = 0 for any adiabatic process.
That is basically what I've said. I've said molecular movement ceases and matter emits/absorb no energy (heat) as absolute zero approaches. ΔS = 0.

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Re: What benefits does believing in Flat Earth give you?
« Reply #20 on: October 30, 2007, 01:00:20 PM »
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How do you know temperature approaches absolute zero?

Because temperature drops the further away you move from the sun. Duh.

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That is basically what I've said. I've said molecular movement ceases and matter emits/absorb no energy (heat) as absolute zero approaches. ΔS = 0.

The end.

Yes, what about it? Near zero Kelvin temperatures have been reached in laboratory settings.

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« Reply #21 on: October 30, 2007, 04:35:43 PM »
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How do you know temperature approaches absolute zero?

Because temperature drops the further away you move from the sun. Duh.
Ok, let's assume we're on the imaginary flat Earth again, and the Sun is a spotlight. Temperature approaches absolute zero when regions are further away from the Sun. Based on your claim, I assume the "spotlight" Sun, rather than just light things up, heats things up too. You said, in the other thread about Astronomy, that within the Sun there's no stellar fusion occurring. Therefore, this means the Sun does not emit radiation since, you know, stellar fusion is what produces radiant and heat energy after all. So, without stellar fusion, what causes the Sun to emit "something" to heat us up? What powers the sun to do this? Why and how does the Sun can emit "something"? What is this "something" that, like radiation, warms things up? If you can give me a clear, logical, and evident claim about the mechanism that causes the Sun to do this, we will get back to the topic "further away from the Sun allows temperature to approach absolute zero".

By the way, this is what you've said:
There is no direct evidence that fusion is occurring within the sun. The theory of fusion is a theory only, and a flimsy one at that. Once man masters stellar fusion get back to me.

This is the definition of stellar nucleosynthesis (stellar fusion):
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Stellar nucleosynthesis is the collective term for the nuclear reactions taking place in stars to build the nuclei of the heavier elements. The processes involved began to be understood early in the twentieth century, when it was first realized that the energy released from nuclear reactions accounted for the longevity of the Sun as a source of heat and light. source

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That is basically what I've said. I've said molecular movement ceases and matter emits/absorb no energy (heat) as absolute zero approaches. ΔS = 0.

The end.

Yes, what about it? Near zero Kelvin temperatures have been reached in laboratory settings.
I'm fine with that. Yes, there are records of temperatures reaching near absolute zero, as done in various laboratories. However, those experiments are done in a closed system. Matter would start to collapse even at near absolute temperature because molecular movement ceases and atomic movement begins to stop. There are so far no regions on Earth, as we know it, ever reached near absolute zero. Therefore, Earth plus near absolute zero will be an impossible combination. However, if you want to discredit this claim, care to tell me what makes near absolute zero plus Earth a possible combination? What mechanism makes it possible? How and why is it possible? Why should it be possible?
Answer these, please.
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Re: What benefits does believing in Flat Earth give you?
« Reply #22 on: October 30, 2007, 06:15:46 PM »
Just a question to you FE'rs.

As far i know, believing in Flat Earth does not cause anything else that people will think you're stupid. But what are your opinions?

What benefit does believing in a round earth give you?  ???
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Re: What benefits does believing in Flat Earth give you?
« Reply #23 on: October 31, 2007, 03:12:16 AM »
Just a question to you FE'rs.

As far i know, believing in Flat Earth does not cause anything else that people will think you're stupid. But what are your opinions?

What benefit does believing in a round earth give you?  ???
definitly not tax benefits
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Re: What benefits does believing in Flat Earth give you?
« Reply #24 on: October 31, 2007, 05:32:16 AM »
Just a question to you FE'rs.

As far i know, believing in Flat Earth does not cause anything else that people will think you're stupid. But what are your opinions?

What benefit does believing in a round earth give you?  ???
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Re: What benefits does believing in Flat Earth give you?
« Reply #25 on: October 31, 2007, 06:15:52 AM »
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How do you know temperature approaches absolute zero?

Because temperature drops the further away you move from the sun. Duh.
Ok, let's assume we're on the imaginary flat Earth again, and the Sun is a spotlight. Temperature approaches absolute zero when regions are further away from the Sun. Based on your claim, I assume the "spotlight" Sun, rather than just light things up, heats things up too. You said, in the other thread about Astronomy, that within the Sun there's no stellar fusion occurring. Therefore, this means the Sun does not emit radiation since, you know, stellar fusion is what produces radiant and heat energy after all. So, without stellar fusion, what causes the Sun to emit "something" to heat us up? What powers the sun to do this? Why and how does the Sun can emit "something"? What is this "something" that, like radiation, warms things up? If you can give me a clear, logical, and evident claim about the mechanism that causes the Sun to do this, we will get back to the topic "further away from the Sun allows temperature to approach absolute zero".

By the way, this is what you've said:
There is no direct evidence that fusion is occurring within the sun. The theory of fusion is a theory only, and a flimsy one at that. Once man masters stellar fusion get back to me.

This is the definition of stellar nucleosynthesis (stellar fusion):
Quote from: Stellar nucleosynthesis
Stellar nucleosynthesis is the collective term for the nuclear reactions taking place in stars to build the nuclei of the heavier elements. The processes involved began to be understood early in the twentieth century, when it was first realized that the energy released from nuclear reactions accounted for the longevity of the Sun as a source of heat and light. source

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That is basically what I've said. I've said molecular movement ceases and matter emits/absorb no energy (heat) as absolute zero approaches. ΔS = 0.

The end.

Yes, what about it? Near zero Kelvin temperatures have been reached in laboratory settings.
I'm fine with that. Yes, there are records of temperatures reaching near absolute zero, as done in various laboratories. However, those experiments are done in a closed system. Matter would start to collapse even at near absolute temperature because molecular movement ceases and atomic movement begins to stop. There are so far no regions on Earth, as we know it, ever reached near absolute zero. Therefore, Earth plus near absolute zero will be an impossible combination. However, if you want to discredit this claim, care to tell me what makes near absolute zero plus Earth a possible combination? What mechanism makes it possible? How and why is it possible? Why should it be possible?
Answer these, please.

Ok, I see the point, but to clear it up: Stellar fusion is not the only thing that produces radiation, in the form of light and heat (IR light in this case, although even if the atmolayer reaches the sun in FE convection won't bring heat down). Light and heat are produced by lightbulbs, for one.
The sun in RE emits light across the EM spectrum, including visible light and IR light, which heats the earth. Fusion is not the one and only source.
However, fusion is the only known energy source that can provide such amounts of energy for such a long period of time from the RE sun.
Since it has been established that the FE sun cannot initiate and sustain fusion, the source of the energy must be something else, something that provides all the energy of the RE sun for a very long time. If the FE sun were chemically powered, it could not do this.

However, debate regarding the FE sun is currently housed in here.
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Re: What benefits does believing in Flat Earth give you?
« Reply #26 on: October 31, 2007, 08:23:12 AM »
Just a question to you FE'rs.

As far i know, believing in Flat Earth does not cause anything else that people will think you're stupid. But what are your opinions?

What benefit does believing in a round earth give you?  ???
definitly not tax benefits
Believing in a flat earth would get you disabilty credits...

I'm going to ask for disability credits. I am disabled...sort of
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« Reply #27 on: October 31, 2007, 08:28:23 AM »
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Re: What benefits does believing in Flat Earth give you?
« Reply #28 on: October 31, 2007, 08:34:41 AM »
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« Reply #29 on: October 31, 2007, 08:41:59 AM »
Just a question to you FE'rs.

As far i know, believing in Flat Earth does not cause anything else that people will think you're stupid. But what are your opinions?

What benefit does believing in a round earth give you?  ???
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