The FE sun is impossible

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Re: The FE sun is impossible
« Reply #300 on: November 20, 2007, 05:43:36 PM »
ok, what's the FE explanation for sunspots, solar promenences, etc, all of which can be observed with simple equipment?

The FE explanation for sunspots

The FE explanation for solar prominence

Just keep in mind that some of the figures aren't accurate because they're calculated from the RE perspective.  Also note that the mechanism behind both is stated as being mostly unexplained.

Hope that helps.
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Re: The FE sun is impossible
« Reply #301 on: November 20, 2007, 05:46:32 PM »
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Re: The FE sun is impossible
« Reply #302 on: November 20, 2007, 05:46:55 PM »
whoops! those are the RE explanations!

in FE the model the sun is MUCH smaller and MUCH closer...i think they said 3000 miles. so it doesn't fit, literally!

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Re: The FE sun is impossible
« Reply #303 on: November 20, 2007, 05:48:18 PM »
It will fit.

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Re: The FE sun is impossible
« Reply #304 on: November 20, 2007, 05:48:36 PM »
whoops! those are the RE explanations!

in FE the model the sun is MUCH smaller and MUCH closer...i think they said 3000 miles. so it doesn't fit, literally!

Please explain why not?  ???
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eric bloedow

Re: The FE sun is impossible
« Reply #305 on: November 20, 2007, 06:15:26 PM »
the RE sun has a diameter 109 times that of earth: about 1,392,000,000 meters! so if it was 3000 miles away, it would literally fill the sky!

and that's assuming the NEAREST part of it is 3000 miles away!

in fact, in the RE model, those sunspots are as big as earth!

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Re: The FE sun is impossible
« Reply #306 on: November 20, 2007, 06:19:04 PM »
the RE sun has a diameter 109 times that of earth: about 1,392,000,000 meters! so if it was 3000 miles away, it would literally fill the sky!

and that's assuming the NEAREST part of it is 3000 miles away!

in fact, in the RE model, those sunspots are as big as earth!

But not in the FE model... I still don't understand what you're trying to get across.
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Re: The FE sun is impossible
« Reply #307 on: November 21, 2007, 06:00:33 AM »
Bumped to get a response.

Tom Bishop among others have fallen back on the support of FE writers to help explain phenomenons. However, supporting these "Sacred Texts" http://www.sacred-texts.com/earth/za/za02.htm means that I can attack them directly and save time.

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I am curious how the sunsets can be explained as "too far to see" or an "optical illusion"

Explained in Chapter 9 of the book Earth Not a Globe:

http://www.sacred-texts.com/earth/za/za27.htm

It states that the sun which supposedly moves parallel to the surface of the Earth in a circle, appears to set because a distancing object will do such as a law of perspective. This would require the velocity of the sun to dramatically increase in speed the closer to the horizon it is in order to look as if it were in fact setting. Moving straight at a constant speed would make it look slower the further away it is.

Just to indulge this little overlooked implication, people the sun is passing over don't notice the sun speeding up but in fact see the opposite: slowing down on this straight line. The only explanation is that the sun actually sets. Besides, if the sun was that small, going such a distance would make it appear to shrink.

I also would like to mention for the Flat Sun theorists, a circle viewed at an angle looks like an oval. If you don't believe me, draw a circle on a peice of paper and tilt it. Ooooh! Its an ellipse now!

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Also, the shape of the sun and moon should appear to change as they move over the FE.

The sun is a sphere. Its light is limited to a spotlight.

Ummm... Dude, light is how we SEE stuff. If the sun was spherical but only emits light like a spot light, than we would still see the oval effect.

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Basically, earthlings would be able to see the sun from anywhere on a flat earth.. even if the sun wasn't shinning directly on them.

The sun is very small and very close to the earth. This allows the sun to only light one section of the world at a time.

Which is why moving that far towards the horizon would make it appear to shrink massively. Only a very large object would appear to remain constant when moving that far away.

These issues were not covered in your 'sacred texts'.
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Re: The FE sun is impossible
« Reply #308 on: November 21, 2007, 06:04:08 AM »
The Dark Energy Field causes all of these phenomena.
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Re: The FE sun is impossible
« Reply #309 on: November 21, 2007, 06:08:24 AM »
The Dark Energy Field causes all of these phenomena.

Should have guessed.  8)
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Re: The FE sun is impossible
« Reply #310 on: November 21, 2007, 06:09:18 AM »
you can't prove that it doesn't, so I must be right.
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Re: The FE sun is impossible
« Reply #311 on: November 21, 2007, 08:16:46 AM »
so, the sun is powered by dark energy? it's either that or you;ve yet to provide an explanation.
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Re: The FE sun is impossible
« Reply #312 on: November 21, 2007, 08:18:21 AM »
so, the sun is powered by dark energy? it's either that or you;ve yet to provide an explanation.

I'm pretty sure he was kidding..
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Re: The FE sun is impossible
« Reply #313 on: November 21, 2007, 08:21:20 AM »
I thought the sun was powered by coal???
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Re: The FE sun is impossible
« Reply #314 on: November 21, 2007, 08:22:55 AM »
Oh yes, of course, coal!!

Prove it.
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Re: The FE sun is impossible
« Reply #315 on: November 21, 2007, 09:17:15 AM »
Tom Bishop said it so it must be so...
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Re: The FE sun is impossible
« Reply #316 on: November 21, 2007, 09:27:50 AM »
This is becoming tedious. FE sun fails.
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Re: The FE sun is impossible
« Reply #317 on: November 21, 2007, 09:35:32 AM »
you can't prove that it doesn't, so I must be right.

You cant prove that it does. So you're not right at all.

I can't prove that God doesn't exist, so there must be a God? Bullshit.

Just because someone can't prove your theory wrong doesn't make it true.

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Re: The FE sun is impossible
« Reply #318 on: November 21, 2007, 09:39:07 AM »
The Dark Energy Field causes all of these phenomena.
DARK energy which emits LIGHT energy. Doesn't take a scientist to see that oxymoron

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Re: The FE sun is impossible
« Reply #319 on: November 21, 2007, 09:59:46 AM »
you can't prove that it doesn't, so I must be right.

You cant prove that it does. So you're not right at all.

I can't prove that God doesn't exist, so there must be a God? Bullshit.

Just because someone can't prove your theory wrong doesn't make it true.

I can prove that it does, look at all the observable phenomena that logic mentioned that are a direct result of it.
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Re: The FE sun is impossible
« Reply #320 on: November 21, 2007, 10:03:54 AM »
Clearly Agent Z has a rock-solid case here.  Another victory for FE!!!  Maybe we can finally put this ludicrous notion of the FE sun being impossible to rest PERMANENTLY.
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Re: The FE sun is impossible
« Reply #321 on: November 21, 2007, 10:05:02 AM »
Thus Spake Roundy, The End
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Re: The FE sun is impossible
« Reply #322 on: November 21, 2007, 10:10:46 AM »
spotlight sun can't exist in spherical form. =D

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Re: The FE sun is impossible
« Reply #323 on: November 21, 2007, 10:12:14 AM »
What speed does the sun emit radio waves at??? LOL
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Re: The FE sun is impossible
« Reply #324 on: November 21, 2007, 10:32:54 AM »
Clearly Agent Z has a rock-solid case here.  Another victory for FE!!!  Maybe we can finally put this ludicrous notion of the FE sun being impossible to rest PERMANENTLY.

You'll never be able to convince all the people in this world.

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Re: The FE sun is impossible
« Reply #325 on: November 21, 2007, 10:34:27 AM »
Who wants a bunch of idiots to be convinced... ::)
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Re: The FE sun is impossible
« Reply #326 on: November 21, 2007, 10:39:57 AM »
Who wants a bunch of idiots to be convinced... ::)

You do. You wish to spread this theory the "ignorant people that don't know the earth is really flat".

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Re: The FE sun is impossible
« Reply #327 on: November 21, 2007, 10:41:27 AM »
No, otherwise I'd be on other forums convincing people to come here. Everyone that comes here seeks this place out. So it's the opposite, in fact.
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Re: The FE sun is impossible
« Reply #328 on: November 21, 2007, 10:46:54 AM »
If there is no wish for spreading a theory, then why would this society even require a forum...

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Re: The FE sun is impossible
« Reply #329 on: November 21, 2007, 10:48:36 AM »
The theory spreads itself, the members do not need to do it.
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