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Ancient FE
« on: October 08, 2007, 03:26:57 PM »
ok, here's more proof, because some more is always needed, based upon some research into the geologic periods of Earth's history. First I will post the RE geological timescale from 270 million years ago to 90 million, trust me that's all we need to make my point.


270 million years ago


240 million years ago


210 million years ago


150 million years ago


120 million years ago


90 million years ago.

Now I want you to look at and compare 240 MYA to 90 MYA and spot whathjas developed that might be important for FE. I'll give you a minute...





right, now look at the ancient geography of FE

270 MYA


240MYA


210MYA


150MYA


120MYA


90MYA

Spotted it yet?

No, ok I'll fill you in. Until approximately 100million years ago the solid ground for the Ice Wall did not exist. Oh during the big ice ages of the Permian period there was a belt of ice, but as we know, water would have flowed beneath a collar of ice. So, if FE is real then it is only about 100million years old, meaning that the science of dating fossils and rocks is significantly wrong...by at least 170 million years....

Any answers, Tom, Username?

credit goes to http://rainbow.ldeo.columbia.edu/courses/v1001/syllabus.html for the RE pictures

Credit goes to myself for the FE variants

« Last Edit: October 08, 2007, 03:48:54 PM by Chris Spaghetti »

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Re: Ancient FE
« Reply #1 on: October 08, 2007, 03:36:59 PM »
The Ice Wall is on solid ground?  Perhaps it's actually a mountain range which rose up from under the water.  Sounds a little more reasonable.

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Re: Ancient FE
« Reply #2 on: October 08, 2007, 03:46:20 PM »
the antarctic ice is on the land of Antarctica. The point is that no mountain range grew up until , at latest about 100 million years ago, by that time the waters would have flowed off the earth.

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Re: Ancient FE
« Reply #3 on: October 08, 2007, 04:01:36 PM »
Maybe the conspiracy is somehow involved.

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Re: Ancient FE
« Reply #4 on: October 08, 2007, 06:15:06 PM »
ok, here's more proof, because some more is always needed, based upon some research into the geologic periods of Earth's history. First I will post the RE geological timescale from 270 million years ago to 90 million, trust me that's all we need to make my point.
right, now look at the ancient geography of FE


Spotted it yet?

Any answers, Tom, Username?

The icewall is actually not in any of those images and lies just beyond their edge.  The images you show just show the land as it changes within the 'walls', though inaccurately (obviously)
« Last Edit: October 08, 2007, 06:23:41 PM by Username »
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Re: Ancient FE
« Reply #5 on: October 08, 2007, 10:19:23 PM »
Maybe the conspiracy is somehow involved.

Don't be stupid.  Of course the conspiracy is somehow involved.  ::)
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Re: Ancient FE
« Reply #6 on: October 09, 2007, 05:32:57 AM »
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The icewall is actually not in any of those images and lies just beyond their edge.  The images you show just show the land as it changes within the 'walls', though inaccurately (obviously)

No, the south tip of Pangea (240MYA) became the landmass that the icewall begins at, if Antarctica is the edge of the wall as FEers suggest. InFE geography, Pangea's southern tip would not be world-encompassing until 100+ million years ago

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Re: Ancient FE
« Reply #7 on: October 09, 2007, 05:42:48 AM »
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The icewall is actually not in any of those images and lies just beyond their edge.  The images you show just show the land as it changes within the 'walls', though inaccurately (obviously)

No, the south tip of Pangea (240MYA) became the landmass that the icewall begins at, if Antarctica is the edge of the wall as FEers suggest. InFE geography, Pangea's southern tip would not be world-encompassing until 100+ million years ago
I think you may have misunderstood me.  There is another land mass beyond the scope of the pictures that is merged with the mass that became Antarctica in RE.
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Re: Ancient FE
« Reply #8 on: October 09, 2007, 05:46:27 AM »
Alright, I'll accept that one grudgingly as I can't disprove it, my next point would be to ask how tetocic movements could have produced the massive 'spagghettification' of the southern landmass.

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Re: Ancient FE
« Reply #9 on: October 09, 2007, 12:43:03 PM »
The icewall is actually not in any of those images and lies just beyond their edge.  The images you show just show the land as it changes within the 'walls', though inaccurately (obviously)

Glaciers originate from land.  Thus the Antartic continent is needed to initiate icewall formation.
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Re: Ancient FE
« Reply #10 on: October 09, 2007, 12:45:54 PM »
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The icewall is actually not in any of those images and lies just beyond their edge.  The images you show just show the land as it changes within the 'walls', though inaccurately (obviously)

No, the south tip of Pangea (240MYA) became the landmass that the icewall begins at, if Antarctica is the edge of the wall as FEers suggest. InFE geography, Pangea's southern tip would not be world-encompassing until 100+ million years ago
I think you may have misunderstood me.  There is another land mass beyond the scope of the pictures that is merged with the mass that became Antarctica in RE.
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Re: Ancient FE
« Reply #11 on: October 09, 2007, 12:47:36 PM »
Tom Dipshit? Where are you?
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Re: Ancient FE
« Reply #12 on: October 10, 2007, 05:01:52 AM »
The mythical pangea never existed. The continents have, more or less, always been as they are.

Anyone want to come up with some compelling evidence for some giant supercontinent instead of some bogus CGI pictures?
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Re: Ancient FE
« Reply #13 on: October 10, 2007, 05:26:18 AM »
Uh-huh, because dinosaurs had boats, thats how fossil records of identical 'saurs appear both on the eastern coast of America and the west of africa, we know for a fact that continents move (is it 2cm a year? i forget exact figures)

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Re: Ancient FE
« Reply #14 on: October 10, 2007, 05:28:04 AM »
The mythical pangea never existed. The continents have, more or less, always been as they are.

Anyone want to come up with some compelling evidence for some giant supercontinent instead of some bogus CGI pictures?

Actually, there is evidence for continental drift via plate tectonics.
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Re: Ancient FE
« Reply #15 on: October 10, 2007, 05:33:47 AM »
And one day, roughly 250 million years in the future we will form Pangea Ultima, when I find a decent pic of that I'll see how it looks on FE

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Re: Ancient FE
« Reply #16 on: October 10, 2007, 05:35:54 AM »
Dinosaurs must be aliens who first invented the conspiracy.  It makes perfect sense!

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Re: Ancient FE
« Reply #17 on: October 10, 2007, 07:14:03 AM »
Uh-huh, because dinosaurs had boats, thats how fossil records of identical 'saurs appear both on the eastern coast of America and the west of africa

Yeah.

we know for a fact that continents move (is it 2cm a year? i forget exact figures)

How do we know for a fact? You just said it.

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Actually, there is evidence for continental drift via plate tectonics.

Care to elaborate/present this evidence?

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And one day, roughly 250 million years in the future we will form Pangea Ultima, when I find a decent pic of that I'll see how it looks on FE

Sheer speculation.
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Re: Ancient FE
« Reply #18 on: October 10, 2007, 07:21:12 AM »
I'nm at work so i can't go looking for evidence atm, but just look up 'plate tectonics' on wikipedia or something

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Re: Ancient FE
« Reply #19 on: October 10, 2007, 07:22:26 AM »
But what about the conspiracy?

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Re: Ancient FE
« Reply #20 on: October 10, 2007, 08:45:12 AM »
Uh-huh, because dinosaurs had boats, thats how fossil records of identical 'saurs appear both on the eastern coast of America and the west of africa, we know for a fact that continents move (is it 2cm a year? i forget exact figures)

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Re: Ancient FE
« Reply #21 on: October 10, 2007, 11:35:16 AM »
Alright, I'll accept that one grudgingly as I can't disprove it, my next point would be to ask how tetocic movements could have produced the massive 'spagghettification' of the southern landmass.
Those maps are based off the round earth map.  They would be different if we had an accurate FE map.
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Re: Ancient FE
« Reply #22 on: October 10, 2007, 11:53:50 AM »
OK, listen to me, those maps are wrong, so is any a FEer can produce because the world isn't flat. No map on Earth will be accurate, do you get that? Several hundred years of cartography has grown based on measurements by explorers and surveyors. Fucking hell...

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« Reply #23 on: October 10, 2007, 12:13:28 PM »
My point is, that the distortion caused by just flattening out a RE map is not accurate and I shouldn't have to explain why it is distorted.  That is the fault of the person who made the map.  Not me, and not the flat earth.
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« Reply #24 on: October 10, 2007, 12:18:38 PM »
You know what? I attempted to create an 'accurate' FE map, slicing apart atlas-accurate continents and trying to make them fit. It doesn't work, you can get away with it with landmasses even as big as North America but Eastern Europe/Northern Asia will not fit, they have to be curved like every Fe map produced.

A Northern Polar Projection of the Earth is the closest thing to accurate you have. No Feer is going to commision trained cartographers to try and map the FE because:

a) it doesn't exist
b) It costs too much
c) no-one cares enough

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Re: Ancient FE
« Reply #25 on: October 10, 2007, 12:31:11 PM »
You know what? I attempted to create an 'accurate' FE map, slicing apart atlas-accurate continents and trying to make them fit. It doesn't work, you can get away with it with landmasses even as big as North America but Eastern Europe/Northern Asia will not fit, they have to be curved like every Fe map produced.

A Northern Polar Projection of the Earth is the closest thing to accurate you have. No Feer is going to commision trained cartographers to try and map the FE because:

a) it doesn't exist
b) It costs too much
c) no-one cares enough
Because we can't afford to get our map made yet, you wish us to have to explain a distorted version of a theoretical RE map made by a REer.

Okay.  Thats reasonable  ::)
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« Reply #26 on: October 10, 2007, 12:34:17 PM »
and who is funding it? Who's going to go to a credited cartographer and say we want a map of the flat earth? or do you plan on surveying every inch of the world yourself?

Come on, a genuine FE map is as much of a non-starter as asbestos flavoured beer

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« Reply #27 on: October 10, 2007, 12:46:32 PM »
and who is funding it? Who's going to go to a credited cartographer and say we want a map of the flat earth? or do you plan on surveying every inch of the world yourself?

Come on, a genuine FE map is as much of a non-starter as asbestos flavoured beer
You are right, it is hard to find funding to research a flat earth.
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Re: Ancient FE
« Reply #28 on: October 10, 2007, 12:53:38 PM »
The mythical pangea never existed. The continents have, more or less, always been as they are.

Anyone want to come up with some compelling evidence for some giant supercontinent instead of some bogus CGI pictures?
You learn pangea and its split in high school. Evidence that shows a historical super continent;

1: Continents fits like a puzzle. Compare South America to Africa
2: Ice sheets. This was during the ice age
3: Like everyone else I have seen said, similar dinosaur fossils have been seen. Again places like South A. and Africa.
4:Mountain ranges show similarity.
5: Currently Ice Land (remember kids, that's the green land) is going through a split. That is because of being on top of the Atlantic Ocean's great rift valley.
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