Why is Engy afraid?

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Re: Why is Engy afraid?
« Reply #60 on: October 04, 2007, 11:38:38 AM »
Im still waitng for you to answer my question: Why are you afraid?
Of what?



Better yet: Why are you afraid to answer the question?
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Re: Why is Engy afraid?
« Reply #61 on: October 04, 2007, 11:40:49 AM »
Some of those don't even make sense.  A few are realllllly stretching for an argument.

Quote from: Me
Source - Gulliver
And?

Consult Gulliver for answers.
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Re: Why is Engy afraid?
« Reply #62 on: October 04, 2007, 08:22:18 PM »
That Gulliver list...outside of ones where he blatantly takes stuff out of context, a lot of them are straw men. It'd help if people actually read through them before latching onto the bandwagon.
Thank you divito. Without your [Rules Violation] statement, I would not have been even tempted to continue the bashing of TheEngineer. He seemed so [Rules Violation] lately.

He's fun to expose as a [Rules Violation].
How ironic.
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So...how about providing us with those Einstein quotes that gravity as a force does not exist? Your Post
So...how about providing us with that definition that GL can be caused by acceleration of the FE? Your Post
So...how about telling us why you applied the EP over thousands of miles? Your Post
So...how about telling us why all accelerations are gravity? Your Post
So...how about telling us how a star that is not directly over some part of FE can be seen from the FE? Your Post
So...how about a reference for your assertion that Nature is an observer? Your Post
So...how about telling us why Nature can't communicate faster than light? Your Post
So...how about explaining to us how air is an energy source? Your Post
So...how about showing us where the other 98 posts of this post are? Your Post
So...how about telling us how the FE, with a constant, flat gravitational field, and RE, with a variable, curved gravitational field, can produce equal GL effects? Your Post
So...how about telling us how all acceleration is relative? Your Post.
So...how about telling us how you determined that acceleration and gravity are one and the same? Your Post
So...how about telling us how you know that Einstein didn't belief in gravity? Your Post
So...how about telling us the reason that you find Wikipedia a more reliable source than a top-shelf peer-review journal such as APL? Your Post
So...how about telling us the reason that Foucault's Pendulum only indicates rotation? Your Post
So...how about telling us the reason satellites need gravity (which you claim doesn't exist even in RE) to stay aloft? Your Post
So...how about telling us how gravity can be one of the four forces of the universe and yet you say gravity does not exist? Your Post
So...how about telling us the reason that light can only be affected by acceleration? Your Post CalTech says otherwise
So...how about telling us the reason orbits can't exist without gravity (which you claim doesn't exit)? Why can't the EM force be used to create an orbit? Your Post
So...how about telling us where Einstein proved that information cannot travel faster than light? Your Post
So...how about telling us how the Sun can orbit the FE and stay on only one side of it? Your Post
So...how about telling us where Einstein said "acceleration is indestinguishable[sic] from gravity"? Your Post
So...how about showing us these stars that you claim are beneath the FE? Reference this post.

Shall I go on?

Oh, let's not omit that you claim to never be wrong. Your Post

Why, I have to thank you. I was wondering when I could get back to the list. I relish the opportunity to add to the list each and every time.

Now for a comment by TheEngineer.
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all accelerations are gravity
Still one of my favorites. 
Now read what he said originally.
So the big bang happens and stars form. How did all the material accumulate together to form the big rocky mass that is Earth? Or did it magically form a flat disk then lose all it's gravity. Too much magic, not enough science. FE fails again.

Acceleration = gravity


soooo wrong

acceleration is a constant increase in speed

motion is a causation of gravity but neither ARE gravity
Gravity and acceleration are equal.  Gravity is an acceleration, and every acceleration is gravity.
He is an [Rules Violation].
QED
« Last Edit: October 07, 2007, 02:55:34 PM by Gulliver »

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Re: Why is Engy afraid?
« Reply #63 on: October 04, 2007, 08:24:46 PM »
And you're an asshole.

QED.
Where did you educate the biology, in toulet?


Re: Why is Engy afraid?
« Reply #65 on: October 04, 2007, 10:36:46 PM »

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Re: Why is Engy afraid?
« Reply #67 on: October 04, 2007, 10:58:05 PM »
The problem is that Gulliver said Engy was wrong a long time ago and Gulliver can never admit when he's wrong.
Where did you educate the biology, in toulet?

Re: Why is Engy afraid?
« Reply #68 on: October 04, 2007, 11:04:13 PM »
He is an idiot.

You are the idiot, because you read what he said, not what he meant.

And you win the shut the fuck up Award.

Congratulations!  You think I care!

He is an idiot.

You are the idiot, because you read what he said, not what he meant.
Oh, and then you can read what I mean by this---> asdfalsdfkjwero. Geeesh!

There is a difference between a random jumble of letters and a sentence or phrase.  LURK MOAR.
Baloney! The difference between a random jumble of letter and an incorrect sentence does not help you read "what he meant". I bet you can't even now tell us what TheEngineer meant by that [Rules Violation] statement.
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Re: Why is Engy afraid?
« Reply #69 on: October 04, 2007, 11:08:19 PM »
He is an idiot.

You are the idiot, because you read what he said, not what he meant.

And you win the shut the fuck up Award.

Congratulations!  You think I care!

He is an idiot.

You are the idiot, because you read what he said, not what he meant.
Oh, and then you can read what I mean by this---> asdfalsdfkjwero. Geeesh!

There is a difference between a random jumble of letters and a sentence or phrase.  LURK MOAR.
Baloney! The difference between a random jumble of letters and an incorrect sentence does not help you read "what he meant". I bet you can't even now tell us what TheEngineer meant by that idiotic statement.

Did you even click the link?  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_relativity#Justification

Re: Why is Engy afraid?
« Reply #70 on: October 04, 2007, 11:17:24 PM »
He is an idiot.

You are the idiot, because you read what he said, not what he meant.

And you win the shut the fuck up Award.

Congratulations!  You think I care!

He is an idiot.

You are the idiot, because you read what he said, not what he meant.
Oh, and then you can read what I mean by this---> asdfalsdfkjwero. Geeesh!

There is a difference between a random jumble of letters and a sentence or phrase.  LURK MOAR.
Baloney! The difference between a random jumble of letters and an incorrect sentence does not help you read "what he meant". I bet you can't even now tell us what TheEngineer meant by that idiotic statement.

Did you even click the link?  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_relativity#Justification
If you'd even read a tenth of the posts in this Forum, you'd know that I know EP. Geesh! Nice delay tactic. The EP won't help you, BTW. We await your clairvoyant reading of what TheEngineer meant. Maybe you misplaced you Ouija Board?

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Re: Why is Engy afraid?
« Reply #71 on: October 04, 2007, 11:31:23 PM »
So the big bang happens and stars form. How did all the material accumulate together to form the big rocky mass that is Earth? Or did it magically form a flat disk then lose all it's gravity. Too much magic, not enough science. FE fails again.

Acceleration = gravity


soooo wrong

acceleration is a constant increase in speed

motion is a causation of gravity but neither ARE gravity
Gravity and acceleration are equal (according to the equivalence principle).  Gravity is an acceleration, and every acceleration can be "blamed on" gravity.

Re: Why is Engy afraid?
« Reply #72 on: October 04, 2007, 11:32:50 PM »
So the big bang happens and stars form. How did all the material accumulate together to form the big rocky mass that is Earth? Or did it magically form a flat disk then lose all it's gravity. Too much magic, not enough science. FE fails again.

Acceleration = gravity


soooo wrong

acceleration is a constant increase in speed

motion is a causation of gravity but neither ARE gravity
Gravity and acceleration are equal (according to the equivalence principle).  Gravity is an acceleration, and every acceleration can be "blamed on" gravity.
No every acceleration cannot be blamed on gravity. You fail.

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Re: Why is Engy afraid?
« Reply #73 on: October 04, 2007, 11:53:52 PM »
So the big bang happens and stars form. How did all the material accumulate together to form the big rocky mass that is Earth? Or did it magically form a flat disk then lose all it's gravity. Too much magic, not enough science. FE fails again.

Acceleration = gravity


soooo wrong

acceleration is a constant increase in speed

motion is a causation of gravity but neither ARE gravity
Gravity and acceleration are equal (according to the equivalence principle).  Gravity is an acceleration, and every acceleration can be "blamed on" gravity.
No every acceleration cannot be blamed on gravity. You fail.
"Einstein's key insight was that there is no fundamental difference between the constant pull of gravity we know from everyday experience and the fictitious forces felt by an accelerating observer"

You should try reading.

Re: Why is Engy afraid?
« Reply #74 on: October 04, 2007, 11:56:08 PM »
So the big bang happens and stars form. How did all the material accumulate together to form the big rocky mass that is Earth? Or did it magically form a flat disk then lose all it's gravity. Too much magic, not enough science. FE fails again.

Acceleration = gravity


soooo wrong

acceleration is a constant increase in speed

motion is a causation of gravity but neither ARE gravity
Gravity and acceleration are equal (according to the equivalence principle).  Gravity is an acceleration, and every acceleration can be "blamed on" gravity.
No every acceleration cannot be blamed on gravity. You fail.
"Einstein's key insight was that there is no fundamental difference between the constant pull of gravity we know from everyday experience and the fictitious forces felt by an accelerating observer"

You should try reading.
So tell us how in the world you arrived at the erroneous conclusion that your quote supported in any way your [Rules Violation] statement that every accelerate can be blamed on gravity. We're curious about how [Rules Violation] work...
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Re: Why is Engy afraid?
« Reply #75 on: October 05, 2007, 12:03:18 AM »
Every acceleration is gravity. 


Please learn your physics, TomG.


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Re: Why is Engy afraid?
« Reply #76 on: October 05, 2007, 12:06:36 AM »
Every acceleration is gravity. 


Please learn your physics, TomG.
False. Take the ion engine of Dawn, just as one example. The acceleration of the probe is not gravity.

Please learn your physics, [Rules Violation].
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Re: Why is Engy afraid?
« Reply #77 on: October 05, 2007, 12:07:39 AM »
False. Take the ion engine of Dawn, just as one example. The acceleration of the probe is not gravity.
It sure as hell is.


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Re: Why is Engy afraid?
« Reply #78 on: October 05, 2007, 12:08:36 AM »
False. Take the ion engine of Dawn, just as one example. The acceleration of the probe is not gravity.
It sure as hell is.
Nope.

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Re: Why is Engy afraid?
« Reply #79 on: October 05, 2007, 12:09:42 AM »
False. Take the ion engine of Dawn, just as one example. The acceleration of the probe is not gravity.
It sure as hell is.
Nope.
That's ok.  I wouldn't expect you to understand, as you still think gravity is a force.  Poor TomG...



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Re: Why is Engy afraid?
« Reply #80 on: October 05, 2007, 12:12:24 AM »
That's ok.  I wouldn't expect you to understand, as you still think gravity is a force.  Poor TomG...



Gravity is a force. Period.

http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/grav.html

Re: Why is Engy afraid?
« Reply #81 on: October 05, 2007, 12:12:59 AM »
So...how about providing us with those Einstein quotes that gravity as a force does not exist? Your Post
So...how about providing us with that definition that GL can be caused by acceleration of the FE? Your Post
So...how about telling us why you applied the EP over thousands of miles? Your Post
So...how about telling us why all accelerations are gravity? Your Post
So...how about telling us how a star that is not directly over some part of FE can be seen from the FE? Your Post
So...how about a reference for your assertion that Nature is an observer? Your Post
So...how about telling us why Nature can't communicate faster than light? Your Post
So...how about explaining to us how air is an energy source? Your Post
So...how about showing us where the other 98 posts of this post are? Your Post
So...how about telling us how the FE, with a constant, flat gravitational field, and RE, with a variable, curved gravitational field, can produce equal GL effects? Your Post
So...how about telling us how all acceleration is relative? Your Post.
So...how about telling us how you determined that acceleration and gravity are one and the same? Your Post
So...how about telling us how you know that Einstein didn't belief in gravity? Your Post
So...how about telling us the reason that you find Wikipedia a more reliable source than a top-shelf peer-review journal such as APL? Your Post
So...how about telling us the reason that Foucault's Pendulum only indicates rotation? Your Post
So...how about telling us the reason satellites need gravity (which you claim doesn't exist even in RE) to stay aloft? Your Post
So...how about telling us how gravity can be one of the four forces of the universe and yet you say gravity does not exist? Your Post
So...how about telling us the reason that light can only be affected by acceleration? Your Post CalTech says otherwise
So...how about telling us the reason orbits can't exist without gravity (which you claim doesn't exit)? Why can't the EM force be used to create an orbit? Your Post
So...how about telling us where Einstein proved that information cannot travel faster than light? Your Post
So...how about telling us how the Sun can orbit the FE and stay on only one side of it? Your Post
So...how about telling us where Einstein said "acceleration is indestinguishable[sic] from gravity"? Your Post
So...how about showing us these stars that you claim are beneath the FE? Reference this post.
So...how about showing where any physicist agrees with your statement that all accelerations are gravity (and remember you claim gravity does not exist.)? Your Post.
Shall I go on?

Oh, let's not omit that you claim to never be wrong. Your Post


Re: Why is Engy afraid?
« Reply #82 on: October 05, 2007, 12:15:34 AM »
False. Take the ion engine of Dawn, just as one example. The acceleration of the probe is not gravity.
It sure as hell is.
Nope.
That's ok.  I wouldn't expect you to understand, as you still think gravity is a force.  Poor TomG...


Just as we claimed: You can't back up your statement. Imagine that. I would expect you not to be about to do so, as you still think gravity does not exist (but just claimed that every acceleration is gravity.) I guess you believe that accelerations don't exist either. [Rules Violation].
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Re: Why is Engy afraid?
« Reply #83 on: October 05, 2007, 12:41:25 AM »
The problem is that Gulliver said Engy was wrong a long time ago and Gulliver can never admit when he's wrong.
Where did you educate the biology, in toulet?

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Re: Why is Engy afraid?
« Reply #84 on: October 05, 2007, 06:08:53 AM »
Just as we claimed: You can't back up your statement. Imagine that. I would expect your to be about to do so, as you still think gravity does not exist (but just claimed that every acceleration is gravity.) I guess you believe that accelerations don't exist either. Poor TheErrorer.
Gravity as a force does not exist.  You should know this, seeing as how you used to be a university physics instructor.

By the way, grammar, plx.


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Re: Why is Engy afraid?
« Reply #85 on: October 05, 2007, 06:11:09 AM »
Gravity is a force. Period.
Perhaps you have heard of this thing called the General Theory of Relativity?


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Re: Why is Engy afraid?
« Reply #86 on: October 05, 2007, 07:27:57 AM »
Just as we claimed: You can't back up your statement. Imagine that. I would expect your to be about to do so, as you still think gravity does not exist (but just claimed that every acceleration is gravity.) I guess you believe that accelerations don't exist either. Poor TheErrorer.
Gravity as a force does not exist.  You should know this, seeing as how you used to be a university physics instructor.

By the way, grammar, plx.

False. Your [Rules Violation] claim is that gravity does not exist. Read your own posts. GR says that gravity can be considered as a fictitious force, not that it doesn't exist. But you should know given how you [Rules Violation].

By the way, fix your dangling participle. 
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Re: Why is Engy afraid?
« Reply #87 on: October 05, 2007, 07:30:56 AM »
shh kids, gravity don't exist, now quit arguing about it and make me a sandwich
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Re: Why is Engy afraid?
« Reply #88 on: October 05, 2007, 09:28:47 AM »
That's ok.  I wouldn't expect you to understand, as you still think gravity is a force.  Poor TomG...



Gravity is a force. Period.

http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/grav.html

Okay.  Then explain:
Time dilation
The perihelion precession of Mercury
The bending of light by massive objects (in other words, the results of the 1919 experiment)

Re: Why is Engy afraid?
« Reply #89 on: October 05, 2007, 10:22:15 AM »
That's ok.  I wouldn't expect you to understand, as you still think gravity is a force.  Poor TomG...



Gravity is a force. Period.

http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/grav.html

Okay.  Then explain:
Time dilation
The perihelion precession of Mercury
The bending of light by massive objects (in other words, the results of the 1919 experiment)
Do you need links into Wikipedia? There's nothing about any of those that preclude that gravity is a force.