Democracy: The Corrupton of Authority

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Democracy: The Corrupton of Authority
« on: September 27, 2007, 11:13:58 AM »
We have all seen in our capitalistic society, where 20% of the population controls 80% of the wealth, an unchecked and organized social class.  This class represents us in Congress, influence the media and the entertainment world, direct our production and businesses, and portray themselves as our children's role models.  These aspects upon first consideration appear unquestionably benign; nothing but an inspiration and a keystone to the foundation of our social structure.  A complete consideration  of their actions unveils their modus operandi; the motivating factor that drives capitalism – greed.

Time and time again we witness the insider trade deals of Enron. We become outraged by the political conspiring amongst businesses and interest groups ranging from covert funding of weapons trafficking, to business-specific subsidies, to non-competitive contracts of Haliburton and the like.  The list continues and often without punishment nor public attention that’s in part to the media.

How does the populace subdue this internal corruption of our State when the very people who represent us in this indifferent two-party system control our laws – our property – our lives!?  Consensus would say: we shall represent ourselves.  How is that any effective in deterring the corruption when the corrupting deterrent we call avarice has dominated our government prior?  It is simply not, but there is a solution in which we can still be represented.  Such representation, however, cannot pander to our interests, since our interests are deeply imbedded in maintaining and improving our wealth.  Our representation must embody our well-being, our State; an authoritative body independent from all interests except for the populace in general, independent from income, and must comprise flexibility in the event of a changing society.

Please feel free to express and criticize.  For you are the Populace and the State.
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Re: Democracy: The Corrupton of Authority
« Reply #1 on: September 27, 2007, 11:49:34 AM »
Your silence infers complience.
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One thing we have learned is don't fuck around in Africa. It leads to bad.

Re: Democracy: The Corrupton of Authority
« Reply #2 on: September 27, 2007, 11:59:42 AM »
Your silence infers complience.
Or apathy.
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Re: Democracy: The Corrupton of Authority
« Reply #3 on: September 27, 2007, 12:05:11 PM »
Your silence infers complience.
Or apathy.

Ah, the quality that state and federal representatives expressed during the Katrina disaster.
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Re: Democracy: The Corrupton of Authority
« Reply #5 on: September 28, 2007, 08:35:34 AM »
Mids would be the likely authoritative candidate since he knows only apathy to the masses and would not succumb to avarice.
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Re: Democracy: The Corrupton of Authority
« Reply #6 on: September 28, 2007, 08:36:11 AM »
Mids would be the likely authoritative candidate since he knows only apathy to the masses and would not succumb to avarice.

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My problem with his ideas is that it is a ridiculous thing.

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Re: Democracy: The Corrupton of Authority
« Reply #7 on: September 28, 2007, 08:38:11 AM »
This guy has flares of Midnight..but I can't see him being cool enough to make such an account.
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« Reply #8 on: September 28, 2007, 08:39:37 AM »
This guy has flares of Midnight..but I can't see him being cool enough to make such an account.

I love all this cloak and dagger speculation. It vindicates the Mids Prohpecy Book.
My problem with his ideas is that it is a ridiculous thing.

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Re: Democracy: The Corrupton of Authority
« Reply #9 on: September 28, 2007, 08:40:34 AM »
This guy has flares of Midnight..but I can't see him being cool enough to make such an account.

I love all this cloak and dagger speculation. It vindicates the Mids Prohpecy Book.

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Re: Democracy: The Corrupton of Authority
« Reply #10 on: September 28, 2007, 03:35:31 PM »
Fascist, you are so right about democracy corrupting authority. Democracy and freedom are Satanic ideals, in order to become closer to God I believe we must revert back to an autocratic opressive world with the most stringent of conservative fundamental Christian laws.

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Re: Democracy: The Corrupton of Authority
« Reply #11 on: September 29, 2007, 09:22:42 AM »
"I thought we were an autonomous collective!"

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Re: Democracy: The Corrupton of Authority
« Reply #12 on: September 29, 2007, 11:54:23 AM »
"I thought we were an autonomous collective!"

Not unless some watery tart throws a scimitar at you, then you are king!
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Re: Democracy: The Corrupton of Authority
« Reply #13 on: September 29, 2007, 11:57:27 AM »
This guy has flares of Midnight..but I can't see him being cool enough to make such an account.

Iam not midnight.  I am a serious advocate for fascist reform.
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Re: Democracy: The Corrupton of Authority
« Reply #14 on: September 29, 2007, 10:48:24 PM »
"I thought we were an autonomous collective!"

You're fooling yourself.  We're living in a dictatorship.   ;D
Where did you educate the biology, in toulet?

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« Reply #15 on: September 30, 2007, 06:29:42 AM »
Fascist, you are so right about democracy corrupting authority. Democracy and freedom are Satanic ideals, in order to become closer to God I believe we must revert back to an autocratic opressive world with the most stringent of conservative fundamental Christian laws.

I agree, the Bible is the only true law book. Hitler had things right.

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Re: Democracy: The Corrupton of Authority
« Reply #16 on: September 30, 2007, 09:10:18 AM »

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« Reply #17 on: September 30, 2007, 09:14:49 AM »
Where did you educate the biology, in toulet?

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Re: Democracy: The Corrupton of Authority
« Reply #18 on: September 30, 2007, 09:17:41 AM »

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Re: Democracy: The Corrupton of Authority
« Reply #19 on: October 01, 2007, 01:45:52 AM »
The Fasciust, on paper at least any political system is worth considering.
Practice has shown us however that, currently, with all it's flaws, decomracy is still the best political system.
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Re: Democracy: The Corrupton of Authority
« Reply #20 on: October 01, 2007, 08:45:04 PM »
This is true but only for a true democracy where the majority rule without oppressing the minority.  Sadly, we are living in a republic.
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Re: Democracy: The Corrupton of Authority
« Reply #21 on: October 01, 2007, 08:50:56 PM »
I prefer Necrarchy, where the undead rule.
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Re: Democracy: The Corrupton of Authority
« Reply #22 on: October 02, 2007, 06:07:39 AM »
The dead can vote.
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Re: Democracy: The Corrupton of Authority
« Reply #23 on: October 02, 2007, 06:38:13 AM »
Haven't read the topic, but I'm a big supporter of democracy, especially compulsory voting democracy where everybody have to take responsibility for who is in government.  Democracy is clearly the best political system in the world.

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« Reply #24 on: October 03, 2007, 10:04:15 AM »
Have you considered anarchy?

Considering how shitty most governments are/become?

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Re: Democracy: The Corrupton of Authority
« Reply #25 on: October 03, 2007, 10:14:55 AM »
I am a serious advocate for fascist reform.

It's about time. I was thinking I was the only one.
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Re: Democracy: The Corrupton of Authority
« Reply #26 on: October 03, 2007, 06:05:54 PM »
Have you considered anarchy?

Considering how shitty most governments are/become?

Unpaid government posts?

Fascists are usually not associated with anarcy.  Comunism however is designed theoretically to achieve the absence of government, thus anarchy.
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Re: Democracy: The Corrupton of Authority
« Reply #27 on: October 04, 2007, 07:53:29 AM »
Have you considered anarchy?

Considering how shitty most governments are/become?

Unpaid government posts?

I have considered anarchy, but it just doesn't work.  Actually the more I study biology, the more of a capitalist I become.  I don't think anarchy would work in a capitalist world at all.  When I say I support capitalism I should be clear; I'm not materialist at all, I'm really bad at saving money, I work in a job for an environmental charity where I am seriously under paid, but happy to put up with it because I support the cause.  It's more a fact that I think competition is good for humanity, especially when you consider that we actually do have a good and inbuilt moral sense, and that fucking people over is not a strong survival strategy, especially for social animals like humans.  In the past we could get away with it, but the shrinking of the world due to the advancing in technology mean that people can see what's going on much better, and as that improves we're going to see further improvements to the world.

10,000 years ago we had forms of anarchy and 30% of people died violent deaths.  Today less than 1% of the world die from violent deaths.  Not only that, but in the last 15 years armed conflicts have dropped by 40%.  Democracy and capitalism is pushing humanity towards a sustainable society with high standards of living.

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Re: Democracy: The Corrupton of Authority
« Reply #28 on: October 04, 2007, 11:51:47 AM »
I have considered anarchy, but it just doesn't work.  Actually the more I study biology, the more of a capitalist I
10,000 years ago we had forms of anarchy and 30% of people died violent deaths.  Today less than 1% of the world die from violent deaths.  Not only that, but in the last 15 years armed conflicts have dropped by 40%.  Democracy and capitalism is pushing humanity towards a sustainable society with high standards of living.

10,000 years ago, people believed in flat earth.  Correlation?
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Re: Democracy: The Corrupton of Authority
« Reply #29 on: October 04, 2007, 10:43:38 PM »
I think that's a myth.