Woudln't this totally debunk everything?

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Woudln't this totally debunk everything?
« on: September 10, 2007, 05:28:39 PM »
New commercial space flight and private space missions?

Re: Woudln't this totally debunk everything?
« Reply #1 on: September 10, 2007, 05:30:15 PM »
no, because its all "conspiracy"

sry, but thats the answer they have to fall back on
No problem solved in the least--and you only had to eliminate an entire continent to fail to accomplish it.

Re: Woudln't this totally debunk everything?
« Reply #2 on: September 10, 2007, 05:32:47 PM »
This has nothing to do with NASA, don't you know that civilians can now go into space commercially with private companies? Or have you not heard.

Re: Woudln't this totally debunk everything?
« Reply #3 on: September 10, 2007, 05:33:46 PM »
Trust me, i know. try convicing the people who really believe in a flat earth that they're not in on it to keep the working class satisfied
No problem solved in the least--and you only had to eliminate an entire continent to fail to accomplish it.

Re: Woudln't this totally debunk everything?
« Reply #4 on: September 10, 2007, 05:34:51 PM »
But it means anyone could go into space and see that the Earth is round, that means you.

Re: Woudln't this totally debunk everything?
« Reply #5 on: September 10, 2007, 05:36:12 PM »
only if i had millions my good sir
No problem solved in the least--and you only had to eliminate an entire continent to fail to accomplish it.

Re: Woudln't this totally debunk everything?
« Reply #6 on: September 10, 2007, 05:39:33 PM »
$100,000 a ticket. So no, not millions.

Re: Woudln't this totally debunk everything?
« Reply #7 on: September 10, 2007, 05:40:13 PM »
whatever, point is its a conspriracy, ask most FEers
No problem solved in the least--and you only had to eliminate an entire continent to fail to accomplish it.

Re: Woudln't this totally debunk everything?
« Reply #8 on: September 10, 2007, 05:42:04 PM »
So everyone is in on the conspiracy except you?

Re: Woudln't this totally debunk everything?
« Reply #9 on: September 10, 2007, 05:46:34 PM »
nope, you will be argued against with points like:

"Only certain people wil be allowed into space. these people are picked by the governemnt and allowed to say only what the government tells them to say"

or maybe even


"we accept no fact as they could all theoretically be false, sinse this is such, we are right"
No problem solved in the least--and you only had to eliminate an entire continent to fail to accomplish it.

Re: Woudln't this totally debunk everything?
« Reply #10 on: September 10, 2007, 05:48:46 PM »
But these are private organizations. Most of the things you say are not based on anything though?

Re: Woudln't this totally debunk everything?
« Reply #11 on: September 10, 2007, 05:51:41 PM »
they're based on what ive seen from people...these reasons ive given you make me sad  :'(
No problem solved in the least--and you only had to eliminate an entire continent to fail to accomplish it.

Re: Woudln't this totally debunk everything?
« Reply #12 on: September 10, 2007, 05:52:44 PM »
You have seen someone get denied entrance into a private space trip? Thats pretty odd.

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Re: Woudln't this totally debunk everything?
« Reply #13 on: September 10, 2007, 05:56:53 PM »
This has nothing to do with NASA, don't you know that civilians can now go into space commercially with private companies? Or have you not heard.

John Carmack, ala ID fame, was in on the X-prize deal, and in fact is doing that exact thing. I saw the ship in Garland.

But that is neither here nor there. I might as well be a programmed bot made by the disinformation awareness office of special panties.

I have made this point many times, and no one on this site, NO ONE, has ever come forward with a rebuttal:

The debate does not exist. No one can prove anything, to anyone, over the internet, and thus this renders all debate meaningless, nonsensical bullshit, that serves no purpose but to fill a time sink for people with too much free time, or not enough sobriety.

This website is a parody of real debate.
« Last Edit: September 10, 2007, 05:59:35 PM by Midnight »
My problem with his ideas is that it is a ridiculous thing.

Genius. PURE, undiluted genius.

Re: Woudln't this totally debunk everything?
« Reply #14 on: September 10, 2007, 05:59:46 PM »
Haha.

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Re: Woudln't this totally debunk everything?
« Reply #15 on: September 10, 2007, 06:25:43 PM »
New commercial space flight and private space missions?

Not entirely, but if the conspiracy exists, it would pose some problems.
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Re: Woudln't this totally debunk everything?
« Reply #16 on: September 10, 2007, 07:41:03 PM »
There is no problem in Flat Earth Theory with an observer seeing an apparently elliptical horizon from the edge of space.
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Re: Woudln't this totally debunk everything?
« Reply #17 on: September 10, 2007, 07:42:33 PM »
There is no problem in Flat Earth Theory with an observer seeing an apparently curved horizon from the edge of space.
Wrong. There is a problem in that the curve doesn't appear in the shape or location the FE predicts.

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Re: Woudln't this totally debunk everything?
« Reply #18 on: September 10, 2007, 07:48:10 PM »
There is no problem in Flat Earth Theory with an observer seeing an apparently curved horizon from the edge of space.
Wrong. There is a problem in that the curve doesn't appear in the shape or location the FE predicts.

FE predicts an ellipse. RE predicts an arc of a circle.

You will find that the vast majority of curvature shots from high altitude balloon shots take the form of an ellipse.

How does Round Earth Theory explain that?

Re: Woudln't this totally debunk everything?
« Reply #19 on: September 10, 2007, 07:51:26 PM »
There is no problem in Flat Earth Theory with an observer seeing an apparently curved horizon from the edge of space.
Wrong. There is a problem in that the curve doesn't appear in the shape or location the FE predicts.

FE predicts an ellipse. RE predicts an arc of a circle.

You will find that the vast majority of curvature shots from high altitude balloon shots take the form of an ellipse.

How does Round Earth Theory explain that?
Easily explained. You're a liar. RE does not predict an arc of a circle, but a ellipse. You fail, again.

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Re: Woudln't this totally debunk everything?
« Reply #20 on: September 10, 2007, 07:54:55 PM »
Really Tom.  Compare.





And SensuClock, most people here believe in Round Earth.

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Re: Woudln't this totally debunk everything?
« Reply #22 on: September 10, 2007, 08:02:14 PM »
I am starting to think that Tom Bishop and Gulliver are the same person.

The evidence for my outlandish claim?

Read their diction, usage, and language patterns. I sense a disturbance in the force.
My problem with his ideas is that it is a ridiculous thing.

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Re: Woudln't this totally debunk everything?
« Reply #23 on: September 10, 2007, 08:17:25 PM »
There is no problem in Flat Earth Theory with an observer seeing an apparently curved horizon from the edge of space.
Wrong. There is a problem in that the curve doesn't appear in the shape or location the FE predicts.

FE predicts an ellipse. RE predicts an arc of a circle.

You will find that the vast majority of curvature shots from high altitude balloon shots take the form of an ellipse.

How does Round Earth Theory explain that?
Easily explained. You're a liar. RE does not predict an arc of a circle, but a ellipse. You fail, again.

Good point, sir.  An arc of a circle only can be observed at all times from a spherical earth.  According to RE, earth is elipsoidal.
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Re: Woudln't this totally debunk everything?
« Reply #24 on: September 10, 2007, 08:43:26 PM »
This topic is not uncommon to the threads.

Conspiracy or not; round earth or otherwise, you must think about the 'millions upon millions of dollars' 'NASA' put into 'creating and researching' the 'spacecraft' they used to 'traverse space' and 'go to the moon'. Not to mention all of the 'information', 'physics' and 'conditioning' that had to take place before 'the astronauts' could 'travel'. Things that critical will not just simply be duplicated by any civilian with cash, and certainly not without a crapload of publicity from everyone. I'm not saying that it's impossible for people to go into space, or have the technology to doso, I'm just saying that the chance of it happening (especially some nameless civilian) doing it; without everybody (or anybody, for that matter) in the english-speaking world knowing who is doing it in the media is slim.

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Re: Woudln't this totally debunk everything?
« Reply #25 on: September 10, 2007, 08:50:05 PM »
This topic is not uncommon to the threads.

Conspiracy or not; round earth or otherwise, you must think about the 'millions upon millions of dollars' 'NASA' put into 'creating and researching' the 'spacecraft' they used to 'traverse space' and 'go to the moon'. Not to mention all of the 'information', 'physics' and 'conditioning' that had to take place before 'the astronauts' could 'travel'. Things that critical will not just simply be duplicated by any civilian with cash, and certainly not without a crapload of publicity from everyone. I'm not saying that it's impossible for people to go into space, or have the technology to doso, I'm just saying that the chance of it happening (especially some nameless civilian) doing it; without everybody (or anybody, for that matter) in the english-speaking world knowing who is doing it in the media is slim.

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My problem with his ideas is that it is a ridiculous thing.

Genius. PURE, undiluted genius.

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Re: Woudln't this totally debunk everything?
« Reply #26 on: September 10, 2007, 08:56:52 PM »
Well, I've heard he's giving away his fortune to anybody who forwards this e-mail to 10 people, finding the cure for cancer and married to Alessandra Ambrosio. Until I turn on the TV, and hear "Bill Gates space rocket almost complete" or something like that, I'll take my grain of salt. It's not something people will overlook or ignore.

I just turned on the news, some lady turned 100 years old today, and it's on the state news. That is so stupid, tell Billy to hurry.

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Re: Woudln't this totally debunk everything?
« Reply #27 on: September 10, 2007, 08:59:39 PM »
Oh.

And the debate -does- exist, the conspiracy just makes you think otherwise, Midnight. Dur. :P

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Re: Woudln't this totally debunk everything?
« Reply #28 on: September 10, 2007, 09:07:36 PM »
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Please reread my post. I said that there is elliptical curvature from the edge of space. The edge of space is located about 100 miles up.

Curvature comes from the fact that on a flat earth we are looking down at a circle. The Ice Wall and other continents of the earth are still tens of thousands of miles away horizontally from the observer at an altitude of 100 miles (edge of space), and thus beyond the resolution of the human eye and merged with the line of the horizon, indiscernible. This is why the view is limited to the immediate vicinity below the observer.

We can confirm that we are looking down at the circle of the earth by noting that shots from amature high altitude balloons show an elliptical horizon. If the earth were a globe, all curvature seen in photographs would appear as an arc of a circle. The only pictures which show the horizon as an arc of a circle are NASA's Apollo shots. The Round Earth image in this thread, for example, was allegedly taken from Apollo 17. The Apollo missions were a space-race conspiracy and never happened.
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Re: Woudln't this totally debunk everything?
« Reply #29 on: September 10, 2007, 09:10:14 PM »
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Really Tom.  Compare.


Please reread my post. I said that there is elliptical curvature from the edge of space. The edge of space is located about 100 miles up. From the edge of space you are looking down at a circle.
So today the Earth isn't infinite Tom?