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Re: how did this happen
« Reply #30 on: September 09, 2007, 08:56:55 AM »
So? Nature abhors your face but it still exists.
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Re: how did this happen
« Reply #31 on: September 09, 2007, 09:46:04 AM »
Nature abhors infinities.

I love it when you talk complete bullshit, Gulliver.  What reason do you have for saying this?  How could we possibly know such a thing, given the nature of the concept of "infinity"?
Where did you educate the biology, in toulet?

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Re: how did this happen
« Reply #32 on: September 09, 2007, 09:51:18 AM »
Nature abhors infinities.


It's more like the human mind abhors infinities.

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Re: how did this happen
« Reply #33 on: September 09, 2007, 09:52:24 AM »
As for the flat farth, the earth is flattened over time from the peoples that walk on it.


I lol'd pretty hard at this.   ;D
Where did you educate the biology, in toulet?

Re: how did this happen
« Reply #34 on: September 13, 2007, 08:11:47 AM »
 

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Re: how did this happen
« Reply #35 on: September 13, 2007, 09:15:47 AM »
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Alright, so he didn't see the end. That makes it infinite? You're the one who's always so quick to bring up vanishing points.

How else would the atmosphere be contained on a Flat Earth?

Undiscovered 100 mile tall Ice Wall?
Celestial Dome?

It's much likelier that the earth is simply a bottom sedimentary layer of the coin shaped universe, where our local area is simply a fraction of the known world, with endless undiscovered fridged lands to the south which lay in perpetual darkness.

The Flat Earth Society has always held that the earth was likely perpetual in nature, extending farther than any distance attainable by man, where temperatures in the pitch black tundra approach zero kelvin. Whomever made the FAQ did not represent the official stance of the Flat Earth Society.

See ENaG, Flat Earth News, and the other Flat Earth Literature for more information about the perpetual plane of the earth.

That would be cool.

But.. as cool as it would be.. it would give us several "unlimited supplies" of things, and in this reality, nothing comes for free in unlimted supplies.

(1) We get an unlimited supply of breathable air.. I guess global warming and acid rain don't exist, as we can't effect an infinate area.
(2) We get an unlimited supply of FRESH DRINKING WATER. Wooo.
(3) Unlimited garbage dump! (as long as we toss it on the end that we don't get our water from)

If life was a computer game we'd call those "major exploits".
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Re: how did this happen
« Reply #36 on: September 13, 2007, 11:57:30 AM »
Up, down, up, down, left, right, left, right, B, A, Start.

I have cured cancer.

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Re: how did this happen
« Reply #37 on: September 13, 2007, 12:01:01 PM »

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Re: how did this happen
« Reply #38 on: September 13, 2007, 12:43:11 PM »
Up, down, up, down, left, right, left, right, B, A, Start.

I have cured cancer.
up up down down, left right left right... I don't remember the rest!
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Re: how did this happen
« Reply #39 on: September 13, 2007, 03:06:06 PM »
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and in this reality, nothing comes for free in unlimited supplies.

Proof?

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Re: how did this happen
« Reply #40 on: September 13, 2007, 03:09:51 PM »
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and in this reality, nothing comes for free in unlimited supplies.

Proof?

Cheez its.

No matter how big a box you get they are gone in like a day.

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Re: how did this happen
« Reply #41 on: September 13, 2007, 03:10:04 PM »
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and in this reality, nothing comes for free in unlimited supplies.

Proof?

Builder's merchants still charge a bomb

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Re: how did this happen
« Reply #42 on: September 13, 2007, 03:18:05 PM »
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and in this reality, nothing comes for free in unlimited supplies.

Proof?
I'll prove that right after you prove your claim that your area received only 10.5 hours of daylight yesterday.

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Re: how did this happen
« Reply #43 on: September 14, 2007, 02:53:54 AM »
TomB, we've pointed out that an infinite Earth faces three challenges.

1) The atmosphere varies over time. An infinite solution cannot.
2) An infinite Earth would conduct away the heat of the central area so quickly and completely as to leave the central portion frigid.
3) Nature abhors infinities.
1) Yes, an infinite solution could. 
2) The central area? Regardless, that is also not necessarily true
3) Anthropomorphizing nature doesn't help you at all, and you are wrong
If you can't argue both sides, you undestand neither

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Re: how did this happen
« Reply #44 on: September 14, 2007, 09:23:21 AM »
TomB, we've pointed out that an infinite Earth faces three challenges.

1) The atmosphere varies over time. An infinite solution cannot.
2) An infinite Earth would conduct away the heat of the central area so quickly and completely as to leave the central portion frigid.
3) Nature abhors infinities.
1) Yes, an infinite solution could. 
2) The central area? Regardless, that is also not necessarily true
3) Anthropomorphizing nature doesn't help you at all, and you are wrong
1) No, under the constraints of FE, it could not. The FE's changes, such as increasing levels of oxygen from the algae of the oceans, would be impossible.
2) Yes, it would be. An infinite plane heated by only a central Sun would still be at absolute zero.
3) It's a rule of thumb in physics. Deal with it.

Overall, your response is inadequate and unresponsive. You fail.

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Re: how did this happen
« Reply #45 on: September 14, 2007, 09:31:36 AM »
ok, have you noticed that when you splash water, it always seems to form spheres?

I applaud your sound reasoning, but you are dealing with cinder blocks in here.

That made me lol.

I hope you understand the concept of surface tension. The earth was not made by God splashing in his tub, nor is it 100% H2O.

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Re: how did this happen
« Reply #46 on: September 14, 2007, 02:21:07 PM »
ok, have you noticed that when you splash water, it always seems to form spheres?

I applaud your sound reasoning, but you are dealing with cinder blocks in here.

That made me lol.

I hope you understand the concept of surface tension. The earth was not made by God splashing in his tub, nor is it 100% H2O.

When i splash water it forms waves!?!?!

If you are applying force to a liquid and it's forming spheres you're on acid or you have some sweet laws of physics.

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Re: how did this happen
« Reply #47 on: September 17, 2007, 03:18:45 AM »
ok, have you ever seen people drinking in zero gravity. the water forms spheres. it does this because it tries to form the shape with the smallest surface area.
i believe the world is an oblate spheroid. anything i say that contradicts this is purely for the sake of argument.

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Re: how did this happen
« Reply #48 on: September 17, 2007, 03:40:57 AM »
You're forgetting about the conspiracy, those people were obviously in on it

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Re: how did this happen
« Reply #49 on: September 17, 2007, 07:12:46 AM »
ok, have you ever seen people drinking in zero gravity. the water forms spheres. it does this because it tries to form the shape with the smallest surface area.

Because of surface tension. Too bad earth has all this dirt and stuff.

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Re: how did this happen
« Reply #50 on: September 17, 2007, 07:15:02 AM »
ok, have you noticed that when you splash water, it always seems to form spheres?

Have you noticed that rain drops are shaped like flat hamburger buns?
No, that's just your head, Tom.



http://www.suite101.com/article.cfm/science_sky/91232

http://www.suite101.com/article.cfm/science_sky/91232/2

http://www.islandnet.com/~see/weather/almanac/arc2000/alm00jul.htm

http://www.islandnet.com/~see/weather/history/lenard.htm

Ergo, we see that the most natural shape is not a sphere but a flattened surface.
Faulty reasoning, as expected from TomB!
The air resistance is changing the most natural shape, a sphere.
Ergo, TomB is a fool.

change the water to the Earth and change air resistance to Universal Accelerator and you see how FE was formed. Easy.

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Re: how did this happen
« Reply #51 on: September 17, 2007, 08:31:34 AM »
This thread is a crime against reason.
My problem with his ideas is that it is a ridiculous thing.

Genius. PURE, undiluted genius.

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Re: how did this happen
« Reply #52 on: September 17, 2007, 11:05:10 AM »
ok, have you ever seen people drinking in zero gravity. the water forms spheres. it does this because it tries to form the shape with the smallest surface area.

A drop of water is far too small to have it's own gravity, it forms a sphere because of surface tension. Please research before you assert.

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Re: how did this happen
« Reply #53 on: September 17, 2007, 11:27:45 AM »
ok, have you noticed that when you splash water, it always seems to form spheres?

Have you noticed that rain drops are shaped like flat hamburger buns?
No, that's just your head, Tom.
You're quite right. Of course, as soon as you start with imaginary forces, like the UA, anything is possible.


http://www.suite101.com/article.cfm/science_sky/91232

http://www.suite101.com/article.cfm/science_sky/91232/2

http://www.islandnet.com/~see/weather/almanac/arc2000/alm00jul.htm

http://www.islandnet.com/~see/weather/history/lenard.htm

Ergo, we see that the most natural shape is not a sphere but a flattened surface.
Faulty reasoning, as expected from TomB!
The air resistance is changing the most natural shape, a sphere.
Ergo, TomB is a fool.

change the water to the Earth and change air resistance to Universal Accelerator and you see how FE was formed. Easy.

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Re: how did this happen
« Reply #54 on: September 17, 2007, 11:57:13 AM »
ok. i am not saying that the droplets have thier own gravity. i am saying that in zero g there is no gravity to affect the shape of the drop. also, when you say that my theory is wrong because the earth was not made by god splashing around in his tub and it is not all water. well, before the earth was solid, it was liquid, and before that it was dust thatw as pulled into a sphere by its own gravity
i believe the world is an oblate spheroid. anything i say that contradicts this is purely for the sake of argument.

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Re: how did this happen
« Reply #55 on: September 17, 2007, 11:59:59 AM »
ok. i am not saying that the droplets have thier own gravity. i am saying that in zero g there is no gravity to affect the shape of the drop. also, when you say that my theory is wrong because the earth was not made by god splashing around in his tub and it is not all water. well, before the earth was solid, it was liquid, and before that it was dust thatw as pulled into a sphere by its own gravity

Let's just ignore the fact that surface tension has been said over 4 times now and consider this:

What would dirt do in the vacuum of space? Form a dirt droplet?

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Re: how did this happen
« Reply #56 on: September 17, 2007, 12:01:18 PM »
ok. i am not saying that the droplets have thier own gravity. i am saying that in zero g there is no gravity to affect the shape of the drop. also, when you say that my theory is wrong because the earth was not made by god splashing around in his tub and it is not all water. well, before the earth was solid, it was liquid, and before that it was dust thatw as pulled into a sphere by its own gravity

Well there is gravity in space, albeit small amounts. there is still gravity.

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Re: how did this happen
« Reply #57 on: September 17, 2007, 12:03:13 PM »
ok. i am not saying that the droplets have thier own gravity. i am saying that in zero g there is no gravity to affect the shape of the drop. also, when you say that my theory is wrong because the earth was not made by god splashing around in his tub and it is not all water. well, before the earth was solid, it was liquid, and before that it was dust thatw as pulled into a sphere by its own gravity

Let's just ignore the fact that surface tension has been said over 4 times now and consider this:

What would dirt do in the vacuum of space? Form a dirt droplet?
You miss the point.

Regardless of the congealing force, whether surface tension over a short time or gravity over a long time, the shape that matter will congeal into, assuming no other forces acting, is a sphere.

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Re: how did this happen
« Reply #58 on: September 17, 2007, 12:08:53 PM »
my point exactly
i believe the world is an oblate spheroid. anything i say that contradicts this is purely for the sake of argument.

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Re: how did this happen
« Reply #59 on: September 17, 2007, 12:21:28 PM »
ok. i am not saying that the droplets have thier own gravity. i am saying that in zero g there is no gravity to affect the shape of the drop. also, when you say that my theory is wrong because the earth was not made by god splashing around in his tub and it is not all water. well, before the earth was solid, it was liquid, and before that it was dust thatw as pulled into a sphere by its own gravity

Let's just ignore the fact that surface tension has been said over 4 times now and consider this:

What would dirt do in the vacuum of space? Form a dirt droplet?
You miss the point.

Regardless of the congealing force, whether surface tension over a short time or gravity over a long time, the shape that matter will congeal into, assuming no other forces acting, is a sphere.

If it is by surface tension, then dirt would not, because it has no surface tension.


(ok i'm feeling sorry for the other side of this debate, there is a giant whole in logic on my side. Dirt is decomposing plant matter and the Earth did not form out of it. It formed out of rock, molten rock. Also it was massive enough to have its own gravity. Why not use a gaseous planet as an example of gravity forming a sphere? People learn to evolve with a debate, not use the same argument even after it was debunked)