how did this happen

in the faq it is said that most FE are atheist, so god didnt make the earth flat. which leaves science. in zero gravity, we all know that a liquid will try and form a sphere, so why didnt the earth as it was, in theory, originally liquid?

how do we know that? all space research is a conspiracy, ergo the water in a vacuum is a conspiracy

ok, have you noticed that when you splash water, it always seems to form spheres?

ok, have you noticed that when you splash water, it always seems to form spheres?

I applaud your sound reasoning, but you are dealing with cinder blocks in here.

ok, have you noticed that when you splash water, it always seems to form spheres?

Yes, but that's because water is water, while land is .. LA LA LA I CAN'T HEAR YOU. *hides in the believer forum*

ok, have you noticed that when you splash water, it always seems to form spheres?

Have you noticed that rain drops are shaped like flat hamburger buns?

I've never looked closely enough at a raindrop to see what shape it makes and I'll bet the vast majority of people here haven't either

Quote from: ash bash on September 07, 2007, 12:45:18 AM

ok, have you noticed that when you splash water, it always seems to form spheres?

Have you noticed that rain drops are shaped like flat hamburger buns?

No, that's just your head, Tom.

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Quote from: ash bash on September 07, 2007, 12:45:18 AM

ok, have you noticed that when you splash water, it always seems to form spheres?

Have you noticed that rain drops are shaped like flat hamburger buns?

No, that's just your head, Tom.

http://www.suite101.com/article.cfm/science_sky/91232

http://www.suite101.com/article.cfm/science_sky/91232/2

http://www.islandnet.com/~see/weather/almanac/arc2000/alm00jul.htm

http://www.islandnet.com/~see/weather/history/lenard.htm

Ergo, we see that the most natural shape is not a sphere but a flattened surface.

Quote from: Dead Kangaroo on September 08, 2007, 06:58:03 AM

Quote from: Tom Bishop on September 08, 2007, 02:51:19 AM

Quote from: ash bash on September 07, 2007, 12:45:18 AM

ok, have you noticed that when you splash water, it always seems to form spheres?

Have you noticed that rain drops are shaped like flat hamburger buns?

No, that's just your head, Tom.

http://www.suite101.com/article.cfm/science_sky/91232

http://www.suite101.com/article.cfm/science_sky/91232/2

http://www.islandnet.com/~see/weather/almanac/arc2000/alm00jul.htm

http://www.islandnet.com/~see/weather/history/lenard.htm

Ergo, we see that the most natural shape is not a sphere but a flattened surface.

Faulty reasoning, as expected from TomB!
The air resistance is changing the most natural shape, a sphere.
Ergo, TomB is a fool.

Faulty reasoning, as expected from TomB!
The air resistance is changing the most natural shape, a sphere.
Ergo, TomB is a fool.

In your twisted perception of reality, is air resistance not natural?

Hence, since we cannot deny that air resistance is natural, we see that the most natural form with all factors included is indeed a flattened surface.

Therefore, I am right. Therefore, you are wrong.

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Faulty reasoning, as expected from TomB!
The air resistance is changing the most natural shape, a sphere.
Ergo, TomB is a fool.

In your twisted perception of reality, is air resistance not natural?

Hence, since we cannot deny that air resistance is natural, we see that the most natural form with all factors included is indeed a flattened surface.

Therefore, I am right. Therefore, you are wrong.

Aetheric resistance.

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Faulty reasoning, as expected from TomB!
The air resistance is changing the most natural shape, a sphere.
Ergo, TomB is a fool.

In your twisted perception of reality, is air resistance not natural?

Hence, since we cannot deny that air resistance is natural, we see that the most natural form with all factors included is indeed a flattened surface.

Therefore, I am right. Therefore, you are wrong.

Heat is natural in a volcano.
Fur is natural on small fluffy animals.
Wind resistance is natural on planets.

The Earth is not on a planet. It is one.

If I fell from the same height as a rain drop I'd be pretty flat too. That is not, however, proof that I am flat.

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Faulty reasoning, as expected from TomB!
The air resistance is changing the most natural shape, a sphere.
Ergo, TomB is a fool.

In your twisted perception of reality, is air resistance not natural?

Hence, since we cannot deny that air resistance is natural, we see that the most natural form with all factors included is indeed a flattened surface.

Therefore, I am right. Therefore, you are wrong.

I liked it when you said ergo. 

The Earth is not on a planet. It is one.

The earth is not a planet. The earth is an infinite plane.

If I fell from the same height as a rain drop I'd be pretty flat too. That is not, however, proof that I am flat.

Since you've admitted that you are neither a sphere or a flat surface, it's simply proof that different entities have different natural shapes. Sugar crystals naturally form cubes, for example.

Hence there is no logical or physical reason why the most natural shape must be a sphere.

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Faulty reasoning, as expected from TomB!
The air resistance is changing the most natural shape, a sphere.
Ergo, TomB is a fool.

In your twisted perception of reality, is air resistance not natural?

Hence, since we cannot deny that air resistance is natural, we see that the most natural form with all factors included is indeed a flattened surface.

Therefore, I am right. Therefore, you are wrong.

Most natural means with the least inference, fool. If you wish to argue that the molten FE encountered vast air resistance during its formation, please apply to the nearest mental health facility for immediate admission and long-term treatment. Do write when you get Internet privileges.

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The Earth is not on a planet. It is one.

The earth is not a planet. The earth is an infinite plane.

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If I fell from the same height as a rain drop I'd be pretty flat too. That is not, however, proof that I am flat.

Since you've admitted that you are neither a sphere or a flat surface, it's simply proof entities have different natural shapes. Sugar crystals naturally form cubes, for example.

Hence there is no logical or physical reason why the most natural shape must be a sphere.

This from the person who posted in this thread that the Earth must be flat because raindrops are flattened by air resistance. It's amazing how foolish TomB can be!

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The Earth is not on a planet. It is one.

The earth is not a planet. The earth is an infinite plane.

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If I fell from the same height as a rain drop I'd be pretty flat too. That is not, however, proof that I am flat.

Since you've admitted that you are neither a sphere or a flat surface, it's simply proof that different entities have different natural shapes. Sugar crystals naturally form cubes, for example.

Hence there is no logical or physical reason why the most natural shape must be a sphere.

I am clearly not a natural shape.

...why would a natural shape be an infinate plane?

Also, why would you think it is an infinate plane? I'm not sure where all these ideas come from.

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The Earth is not on a planet. It is one.

The earth is not a planet. The earth is an infinite plane.

I am sick of being tolerant with you. You are so full of shit. Every other day it's different. Gulliver's right, you are a fool. And knowing you, you'll probably completely ignore this post.
So either you're a very elaborate troll rolling in your chair, "HAHA, I got them again, yeeee!" or, well, I don't know; if you are for real, I have no idea why you believe the Earth to be flat as you seem smart enough.
P.S. We all know you're not atheist. You're not very good at hiding it.

...why would a natural shape be an infinate plane?

Because the entire universe is accelerating upwards (or decelerating downwards, if you prefer), and matter tends to collect at the bottom in a flat and uniform manner.

Also, why would you think it is an infinite plane? I'm not sure where all these ideas come from.

In the mid 1800's Dr. Samuel Birley Rowbotham looked out at the icy tundra from the edge of Antarctica and concluded that he didn't know how far the earth extended, but that from his perspective the tundra seemed perpetual. Hence came the idea of a perpetual earth where the edge of the earth meant the edge of the universe, the edge of space and time itself.

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...why would a natural shape be an infinate plane?

Because the entire universe is accelerating upwards (or decelerating downwards, if you prefer), and matter tends to collect at the bottom in a flat and uniform manner.

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Also, why would you think it is an infinite plane? I'm not sure where all these ideas come from.

In the mid 1800's Dr. Samuel Birley Rowbotham looked out at the icy tundra from the edge of Antarctica and concluded that he didn't know how far the earth extended, but that from his perspective the tundra seemed perpetual. Hence came the idea of a perpetual earth where the edge of the earth meant the edge of the universe, the edge of space and time itself.

Alright, so he didn't see the end. That makes it infinite? You're the one who's always so quick to bring up vanishing points.

Alright, so he didn't see the end. That makes it infinite? You're the one who's always so quick to bring up vanishing points.

How else would the atmosphere be contained on a Flat Earth?

Undiscovered 100 mile tall Ice Wall?
Celestial Dome?

It's much likelier that the earth is simply a bottom sedimentary layer of the coin shaped universe, where our local area is simply a fraction of the known world, with endless undiscovered fridged lands to the south which lay in perpetual darkness.

The Flat Earth Society has always held that the earth was likely perpetual in nature, extending farther than any distance attainable by man, where temperatures in the pitch black tundra approach zero kelvin. Whomever made the FAQ did not represent the official stance of the Flat Earth Society.

See ENaG, Flat Earth News, and the other Flat Earth Literature for more information about the perpetual plane of the earth.

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Alright, so he didn't see the end. That makes it infinite? You're the one who's always so quick to bring up vanishing points.

How else would the atmosphere be contained on a Flat Earth?

Undiscovered 100 mile tall Ice Wall?
Celestial Dome?

It's much likelier that the earth is simply a bottom sedimentary layer of the coin shaped universe, where our local area is simply a fraction of the known world, with perpetual undiscovered fridged lands to the south which lay in perpetual darkness.

The Flat Earth Society has always held that the earth was likely perpetual in nature, extending farther than any distance attainable by man, where temperatures in the pitch black tundra approach zero kelvin.

And how do you accelerate infinite mass?

And how do you accelerate infinite mass?

The Universal Accelerator is a cosmological constant. The mechanism invokes the Quintessence form of negative energy which fills all of existence. The Quintessence form utilizes tracker behavior which closely tracks the radiation density of an object until there is an equality of matter-radiation. The Quintessence is a scalar field which has an equation of state (relating its pressure pq and density ρq) of pq = wρq, where w is less than -1/3. Quintessence is dynamic, and generally has a density and equation of state that varies through time and space. Hence, the earth moves upwards through a form of buoyancy.

Another less popular theory is that the Universal accelerator actually invokes Phantom Energy, and that the universe is in a long drawn out process of ripping itself apart.

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Alright, so he didn't see the end. That makes it infinite? You're the one who's always so quick to bring up vanishing points.

How else would the atmosphere be contained on a Flat Earth?

Undiscovered 100 mile tall Ice Wall?
Celestial Dome?

It's much likelier that the earth is simply a bottom sedimentary layer of the coin shaped universe, where our local area is simply a fraction of the known world, with perpetual undiscovered fridged lands to the south which lay in perpetual darkness.

The Flat Earth Society has always held that the earth was likely perpetual in nature, extending farther than any distance attainable by man, where temperatures in the pitch black tundra approach zero kelvin.

And how do you accelerate infinite mass?

Oh, you didn't hear? Tom says it's quintessence dark energy.
LOL, I wrote this BEFORE Tom wrote his response.

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Alright, so he didn't see the end. That makes it infinite? You're the one who's always so quick to bring up vanishing points.

How else would the atmosphere be contained on a Flat Earth?

Undiscovered 100 mile tall Ice Wall?
Celestial Dome?

It's much likelier that the earth is simply a bottom sedimentary layer of the coin shaped universe, where our local area is simply a fraction of the known world, with endless undiscovered fridged lands to the south which lay in perpetual darkness.

The Flat Earth Society has always held that the earth was likely perpetual in nature, extending farther than any distance attainable by man, where temperatures in the pitch black tundra approach zero kelvin. Whomever made the FAQ did not represent the official stance of the Flat Earth Society.

See ENaG, Flat Earth News, and the other Flat Earth Literature for more information about the perpetual plane of the earth.

Well, without surface tension, the atmosphere would be immediately squished down to the ground if the Earth were infinite. A better idea is a variation of Dogplatter's idea where the ice wall is 50,000 feet high.

And how do you accelerate infinite mass?

Well, it doesn't have to be infinite, but refer to Michio Kaku's Hyperspace for discussions about the 4th dimension.

how do we know that? all space research is a conspiracy, ergo the water in a vacuum is a conspiracy

There are zero G environments produced artificially.  As for the flat earth, the earth is flattened over time from the peoples that walk on it.

Quote from: Tom Bishop on September 08, 2007, 12:41:29 PM

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Faulty reasoning, as expected from TomB!
The air resistance is changing the most natural shape, a sphere.
Ergo, TomB is a fool.

In your twisted perception of reality, is air resistance not natural?

Hence, since we cannot deny that air resistance is natural, we see that the most natural form with all factors included is indeed a flattened surface.

Therefore, I am right. Therefore, you are wrong.

Most natural means with the least inference, fool. If you wish to argue that the molten FE encountered vast air resistance during its formation, please apply to the nearest mental health facility for immediate admission and long-term treatment. Do write when you get Internet privileges.

True.  Particles with significant cohesive forces, such as water, tend to 'bead' up into spheres because they 'want' to expose the least amount of surface area to the environment.  Even the application of other forces, such as UA, these particles would still try to expose less surface area.  This is why, if UA exists, that earth would expose a flat bottom surface and an eliptical top surface (supporting my Slightly-Curved FE Theory).  However, if the earth has infinite horizontal dimensions it will bead up forming an infinite depth or vertical dimension and the surface curve would appear completely negligible due to the infinitude.

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And how do you accelerate infinite mass?

The Universal Accelerator is a cosmological constant.

Wait.  The cosmological constant was theorized by Einstein to prevent objects of mass in a static universe from contracting.  However, the static universe theory fell out of favor due to evidence of a dynamic universe (Big Bang Theory, expanding universe, big bang residual radiation, etc.) effectively discrediting the cosmological constant.

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...why would a natural shape be an infinate plane?

Because the entire universe is accelerating upwards (or decelerating downwards, if you prefer), and matter tends to collect at the bottom in a flat and uniform manner.

Faulty logic, again. If the entire Universe were accelerating, then there'd be no reason for anything to accumulate anywhere.

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Also, why would you think it is an infinite plane? I'm not sure where all these ideas come from.

In the mid 1800's Dr. Samuel Birley Rowbotham looked out at the icy tundra from the edge of Antarctica and concluded that he didn't know how far the earth extended, but that from his perspective the tundra seemed perpetual. Hence came the idea of a perpetual earth where the edge of the earth meant the edge of the universe, the edge of space and time itself.

TomB lies. Rowbotham never looked out at the icy tundra from the edge of Antarctica.

TomB, we've pointed out that an infinite Earth faces three challenges.

1) The atmosphere varies over time. An infinite solution cannot.
2) An infinite Earth would conduct away the heat of the central area so quickly and completely as to leave the central portion frigid.
3) Nature abhors infinities.