God is Imaginary

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Saddam Hussein

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God is Imaginary
« on: September 01, 2007, 02:55:02 PM »
Awesome website.  Behold the truth:

http://www.godisimaginary.com/

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Midnight

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Re: God is Imaginary
« Reply #1 on: September 01, 2007, 03:17:15 PM »
/complete nonsense
My problem with his ideas is that it is a ridiculous thing.

Genius. PURE, undiluted genius.

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Re: God is Imaginary
« Reply #2 on: September 02, 2007, 12:15:36 AM »
There is absolutely no way to disprove scripture. Since God is infallible by definition, there are actually no contradictions in scripture. God can say to love thy neighbor in one sentence and then say to stone thy neighbor in another sentence. There would be absolutely no contradiction because God is God and He can do whatever He wants. God can contradict himself and still not contradict himself.

If God claims to love everyone and then goes off on a killing spree and promote slavery, that's perfectly fine. He's God - an omnipresent, omniscient, benevolent being which exists outside of space-time. God can create, destroy, and enslave as He desires.
« Last Edit: September 02, 2007, 12:20:30 AM by Tom Bishop »

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Re: God is Imaginary
« Reply #3 on: September 02, 2007, 12:34:09 AM »
Tom, there is no fucking way you are atheist.

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Re: God is Imaginary
« Reply #4 on: September 02, 2007, 12:35:52 AM »
There is absolutely no way to disprove scripture. Since God is infallible by definition, there are actually no contradictions in scripture. God can say to love thy neighbor in one sentence and then say to stone thy neighbor in another sentence. There would be absolutely no contradiction because God is God and He can do whatever He wants. God can contradict himself and still not contradict himself.

If God claims to love everyone and then goes off on a killing spree and promote slavery, that's perfectly fine. He's God - an omnipresent, omniscient, benevolent being which exists outside of space-time. God can create, destroy, and enslave as He desires.

This doesn't make any sense remotely.


I'm officially gathering a bunch of religious people sometime and they're all going to pray to cure cancer. These assholes do marathons and shit for it, so what the hell? I'm going to do it. And nothing's going to happen. And I'll laugh. Seriously. I'm liking these articles.

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Re: God is Imaginary
« Reply #5 on: September 02, 2007, 12:37:44 AM »
LOL

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Re: God is Imaginary
« Reply #6 on: September 02, 2007, 05:28:11 PM »
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I'm officially gathering a bunch of religious people sometime and they're all going to pray to cure cancer. These assholes do marathons and shit for it, so what the hell? I'm going to do it. And nothing's going to happen. And I'll laugh. Seriously. I'm liking these articles.

A God would exist outside of space-time. Hence, a God would not have to follow human rules of logic. He's God, and thus infallible to all human logic and opinion by definition. God can be a two-faced liar and destroy entire nations at a whim, yet it would not take away from his benevolency. God is God and therefore He can do whatever He wants.

Why should God feel the need to do whatever you want?
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Re: God is Imaginary
« Reply #7 on: September 02, 2007, 05:38:05 PM »
Why should God need to do whatever you want?

Because we created him.

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Jimmy Crackhorn

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Re: God is Imaginary
« Reply #8 on: September 02, 2007, 08:27:00 PM »
Why should God need to do whatever you want?
Because I am God Tom. Now give up the atheist bullshit and bow down.

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Re: God is Imaginary
« Reply #9 on: September 03, 2007, 02:19:04 PM »
Actually, God is real. (This hyperlink proves it.)

http://www.godisreal.com/
The folly of mistaking a paradox for a discovery, a metaphor for a proof, a torrent of verbiage for a spring of capital truths, and oneself for an oracle, is inborn in us. -Some Frenchy

Re: God is Imaginary
« Reply #10 on: September 03, 2007, 02:20:53 PM »
Actually, God is real. (This hyperlink proves it.)

http://www.godisreal.com/

Where does it prove it?  I was let down.... :(

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Re: God is Imaginary
« Reply #11 on: September 03, 2007, 03:35:00 PM »
 ::)
My problem with his ideas is that it is a ridiculous thing.

Genius. PURE, undiluted genius.

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Re: God is Imaginary
« Reply #12 on: September 03, 2007, 03:44:00 PM »
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I'm officially gathering a bunch of religious people sometime and they're all going to pray to cure cancer. These assholes do marathons and shit for it, so what the hell? I'm going to do it. And nothing's going to happen. And I'll laugh. Seriously. I'm liking these articles.

A God would exist outside of space-time. Hence, a God would not have to follow human rules of logic. He's God, and thus infallible to all human logic and opinion by definition. God can be a two-faced liar and destroy entire nations at a whim, yet it would not take away from his benevolency. God is God and therefore He can do whatever He wants.

Why should God feel the need to do whatever you want?

Whoever deleted my response to this post, you truly are a scared piece of shit. Afraid the dissection is becoming too public? Fuck off.
My problem with his ideas is that it is a ridiculous thing.

Genius. PURE, undiluted genius.

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Jimmy Crackhorn

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Re: God is Imaginary
« Reply #13 on: September 03, 2007, 03:46:58 PM »
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I'm officially gathering a bunch of religious people sometime and they're all going to pray to cure cancer. These assholes do marathons and shit for it, so what the hell? I'm going to do it. And nothing's going to happen. And I'll laugh. Seriously. I'm liking these articles.

A God would exist outside of space-time. Hence, a God would not have to follow human rules of logic. He's God, and thus infallible to all human logic and opinion by definition. God can be a two-faced liar and destroy entire nations at a whim, yet it would not take away from his benevolency. God is God and therefore He can do whatever He wants.

Why should God feel the need to do whatever you want?

Whoever deleted my response to this post, you truly are a scared piece of shit. Afraid the dissection is becoming too public? Fuck off.
What'd you say?

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Midnight

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Re: God is Imaginary
« Reply #14 on: September 03, 2007, 03:48:16 PM »
When I want your input on an unrelated post you will be aware of that because I will quote or otherwise acknowledge you walk the prime material plane. Run into traffic.
My problem with his ideas is that it is a ridiculous thing.

Genius. PURE, undiluted genius.

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Jimmy Crackhorn

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Re: God is Imaginary
« Reply #15 on: September 03, 2007, 03:51:35 PM »
Okay, then...

Re: God is Imaginary
« Reply #16 on: September 03, 2007, 04:51:22 PM »
Why should God need to do whatever you want?

Because we created him.

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Re: God is Imaginary
« Reply #17 on: September 03, 2007, 07:14:01 PM »

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Re: God is Imaginary
« Reply #18 on: September 04, 2007, 03:09:48 PM »
The website was bullshit. Any moderatly intelligent person could disprove any of those proofs that God doesn't exist.

I'm as atheist as the next guy, but that was a really dumb website.
I'm so tempted to put a scratch and sniff at the bottom of a pool and see what you do...

Avert your eyes, this is too awesome for them...

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Re: God is Imaginary
« Reply #19 on: September 05, 2007, 08:40:05 AM »
I disagree.

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Re: God is Imaginary
« Reply #20 on: September 05, 2007, 08:55:20 AM »
The website was bullshit. Any moderatly intelligent person could disprove any of those proofs that God doesn't exist.

I'm as atheist as the next guy, but that was a really dumb website.
Then do it. Right here.

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Midnight

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Re: God is Imaginary
« Reply #21 on: September 05, 2007, 08:56:24 AM »
LOL
My problem with his ideas is that it is a ridiculous thing.

Genius. PURE, undiluted genius.

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Re: God is Imaginary
« Reply #22 on: September 05, 2007, 09:38:19 AM »
The website was bullshit. Any moderatly intelligent person could disprove any of those proofs that God doesn't exist.

I'm as atheist as the next guy, but that was a really dumb website.
Then do it. Right here.

lol @ irony

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Re: God is Imaginary
« Reply #23 on: September 05, 2007, 02:52:44 PM »
The website was bullshit. Any moderatly intelligent person could disprove any of those proofs that God doesn't exist.

I'm as atheist as the next guy, but that was a really dumb website.
Then do it. Right here.

Do what? Disprove every single thing they say on the site? Did I ever say I was moderatly intelligent? No. Did I say I could do it? No.
I'm so tempted to put a scratch and sniff at the bottom of a pool and see what you do...

Avert your eyes, this is too awesome for them...

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« Reply #24 on: September 05, 2007, 03:13:13 PM »

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« Reply #25 on: September 05, 2007, 05:11:50 PM »
Do what? Disprove every single thing they say on the site? Did I ever say I was moderatly intelligent? No. Did I say I could do it? No.
You said that it could be done. Naturally I assumed that you had an idea of how to disprove the arguments, or that you could at least point out what was wrong with the arguments. If you really have no idea as to how they could be proven wrong, you have no basis for your claim, and are just talking out of your ass.

These people haven't come up with any new arguments, but they organized them and put them all on one site. It is a decent site.

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Re: God is Imaginary
« Reply #26 on: September 05, 2007, 08:05:36 PM »
One statement was "If God has a plan, why pray, as praying won't change anything."

What if it is God's plan for you to pray.  You can't disprove God because the assumption you must make is that God is omnipotent and therefore you can't disprove it because it will just be part of "God's plan".

FOR HARDCORE CHRISTIANS:
If God knew you before you were born, why does he plan certain people to go to Hell? :o

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Re: God is Imaginary
« Reply #27 on: September 05, 2007, 08:33:47 PM »
I definitely agree that it's impossible to actually disprove the existence of God (as in, the idea of some kind of intelligent creator of the universe).  Even arguing that it's just very very unlikely, as some atheists do, seems pointless, because we're talking about something that is by its very nature unknowable.  At the same time that there's no real reason to believe in God, there is equally no real reason to entirely rule out the possibility.  It's my feelings in those regards that make me consider myself more of an agnostic than an actual atheist.
Where did you educate the biology, in toulet?

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« Reply #28 on: September 05, 2007, 09:35:08 PM »
One statement was "If God has a plan, why pray, as praying won't change anything."

What if it is God's plan for you to pray.  You can't disprove God because the assumption you must make is that God is omnipotent and therefore you can't disprove it because it will just be part of "God's plan".

If that's true, then praying is a lot like masturbation. God would put people on Earth just so that they can praise him. Self-stimulation much?

Still, I don't know if that's what it was getting at. Prayer is supposed to be done out of free will. If God has a plan for us, then we don't have free will to do what we want, thus we don't have free will to pray, and thus it's pretty much absolutely pointless.

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Re: God is Imaginary
« Reply #29 on: September 05, 2007, 10:48:59 PM »
One statement was "If God has a plan, why pray, as praying won't change anything."

What if it is God's plan for you to pray.  You can't disprove God because the assumption you must make is that God is omnipotent and therefore you can't disprove it because it will just be part of "God's plan".

FOR HARDCORE CHRISTIANS:
If God knew you before you were born, why does he plan certain people to go to Hell? :o
I asked that a long time ago and got this answer:
"God's plan includes all the possible continencies, including praying - or not praying. For His own reasons, God has told us to pray and promised answers to our prayers.

Someone here likened God to a master chess player, who takes into consideration all the possible moves of the board -- actions, as well as prayers, of the billions of people of the world (past, present, and future) and arranges things according to His will and plan.

His ACTIVE will, and thus His preferred plan, is that every human being ever born would trust Him, be saved, and spend eternity with Him. But, He chose to give man free will so that whether or not they DO spend eternity with Him is contingent on their OWN choice. He does everything short of coercion to convince every human being to turn to Him, but the final decision is THEIRS.

Although He KNOWS that some will choose damnation rather than trust in Him, He does not ACTIVELY plan their damnation. He ALLOWS their damnation because it is what THEY choose for themselves."