Are Catholics Cannibals?

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Are Catholics Cannibals?
« on: August 31, 2007, 08:40:04 PM »
Quote from: Profession of Faith of the Council of Trent
I likewise profess that in the Mass a true, proper and propitiatory sacrifice is offered to God on behalf of the living and the dead, and that the body and blood together with the soul and divinity of our Lord Jesus Christ is truly, really, and substantially present in the most holy sacrament of the Eucharist, and that there is a change of the whole substance of the bread into the body, and of the whole substance of the wine into blood; and this change the Catholic Church calls transubstantiation. I also profess that the whole and entire Christ and a true sacrament is received under each separate species.

Bread and wine is people! :o

Another object of interest to Catholics especially:

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Lord, my God, who am I that You should forsake me? The Child of your Love and now become as the most hated one the one You have thrown away as unwanted unloved. I call, I cling, I want and there is no One to answer no One on Whom I can cling no, No One. Alone ... Where is my Faith even deep down right in there is nothing, but emptiness & darkness My God how painful is this unknown pain I have no Faith I dare not utter the words & thoughts that crowd in my heart & make me suffer untold agony.

So many unanswered questions live within me afraid to uncover them because of the blasphemy If there be God please forgive me When I try to raise my thoughts to Heaven there is such convicting emptiness that those very thoughts return like sharp knives & hurt my very soul. I am told God loves me and yet the reality of darkness & coldness & emptiness is so great that nothing touches my soul. Did I make a mistake in surrendering blindly to the Call of the Sacred Heart?
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Re: Are Catholics Cannibals?
« Reply #1 on: August 31, 2007, 08:43:30 PM »
Old.
Where did you educate the biology, in toulet?

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Re: Are Catholics Cannibals?
« Reply #2 on: August 31, 2007, 09:02:15 PM »
Old.

This thread is called "Are Catholics Cannibals?" not "Describe Roundy's Mom". 

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Re: Are Catholics Cannibals?
« Reply #3 on: August 31, 2007, 09:06:25 PM »
The definition of cannibalism is "one that eats the flesh of its own kind". So a human would have to eat another human's flesh to be considered a cannibal. Since the flesh and blood of Jesus Christ are divine, the bread and wine eaten at mass do not represent the flesh and blood of a normal human.

Answer: No, the Roman Catholic religion is not cannibalistic, but there are(and have been) many cannibals in this world, and I can not guarentee to you that some of them were not also Catholic. I cannot make the same claim to other sects of Catholicism, mainly because most of them are actually worshipping the devil.
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Re: Are Catholics Cannibals?
« Reply #4 on: August 31, 2007, 09:28:12 PM »
It's alright to eat people, as long as said people claim to be a god. Got it.

These days people like Jesus are kept in mental institutions, so if anyone wants to see what "divine" flesh tastes like, that is the place to go.

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Re: Are Catholics Cannibals?
« Reply #5 on: August 31, 2007, 11:32:18 PM »
There are many cannibals in this world

How many is "many" ? - My estimate is about 0.001% of the human population are cannibals, or about 1 in every 100,000 people.

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Re: Are Catholics Cannibals?
« Reply #6 on: August 31, 2007, 11:36:09 PM »
Old.

This thread is called "Are Catholics Cannibals?" not "Describe Roundy's Mom". 

Your mom, bitch!  >:(
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Re: Are Catholics Cannibals?
« Reply #7 on: September 01, 2007, 03:58:34 AM »
My problem with his ideas is that it is a ridiculous thing.

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Re: Are Catholics Cannibals?
« Reply #8 on: September 01, 2007, 04:20:26 AM »
My problem with his ideas is that it is a ridiculous thing.

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Re: Are Catholics Cannibals?
« Reply #9 on: September 06, 2007, 11:06:12 AM »
There are many cannibals in this world

How many is "many" ? - My estimate is about 0.001% of the human population are cannibals, or about 1 in every 100,000 people.

1/100,000 of the population is about 66,000 people, which is many.
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Re: Are Catholics Cannibals?
« Reply #10 on: September 08, 2007, 11:03:06 AM »
Bah, you're not serious.

Eating is not really a specific connotation of consuming communion.  More likely, it could have been anything so that you would be having a "divinity" deeply intimately inside you.  Eating simply is the means for this, a symbolic action.  Consuming God, God giving itself up for your own nourishment, a humble and selfless God...etc.

Jesus's fables and stories always involved current events / mundane actions.  The mundane symbol of eating bread and wine granting something as mystical as divinity simply follows his pattern.  The mindset of a normal person in those days basically was cause and effect.  In many cases, the regular person didn't know why something happened, just that something did happen.  This, then, made it easier to accept the notion of eating a god's flesh and blood (symbolized by bread and wine in this case) which would grant, in the example of Christianity, divinity.  Because bread and wine were so dissimilar to flesh and blood, and the whole belief in Jesus as God, fancying the idea of cannibalism was probably not something widespread at all.

Also, since traditional bible lore points to humans being of the Earth, this could be considered cannibalism as much as eating an apple would be.

In any case, you're just being nit-picky about this.
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Re: Are Catholics Cannibals?
« Reply #11 on: September 08, 2007, 01:54:04 PM »
Bah, you're not serious.

Eating is not really a specific connotation of consuming communion.  More likely, it could have been anything so that you would be having a "divinity" deeply intimately inside you.  Eating simply is the means for this, a symbolic action.  Consuming God, God giving itself up for your own nourishment, a humble and selfless God...etc.

Jesus's fables and stories always involved current events / mundane actions.  The mundane symbol of eating bread and wine granting something as mystical as divinity simply follows his pattern.  The mindset of a normal person in those days basically was cause and effect.  In many cases, the regular person didn't know why something happened, just that something did happen.  This, then, made it easier to accept the notion of eating a god's flesh and blood (symbolized by bread and wine in this case) which would grant, in the example of Christianity, divinity.  Because bread and wine were so dissimilar to flesh and blood, and the whole belief in Jesus as God, fancying the idea of cannibalism was probably not something widespread at all.

Also, since traditional bible lore points to humans being of the Earth, this could be considered cannibalism as much as eating an apple would be.

In any case, you're just being nit-picky about this.

Wrong. The standpoint of the Catholic church is that the wine/bread, once eaten, actually becomes the body and blood of Christ. Nothing symbolic about it. The Pope says it happens.

It's the Protestant churches who view the act as symbolism.
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Re: Are Catholics Cannibals?
« Reply #12 on: September 08, 2007, 02:33:32 PM »
Wrong. The standpoint of the Catholic church is that the wine/bread, once eaten, actually becomes the body and blood of Christ. Nothing symbolic about it. The Pope says it happens.

It's the Protestant churches who view the act as symbolism.

Read my damn post.

What I'm saying is that it *IS* symbolic regardless of current Catholic teachings.  It didn't have to be "eating" or "digesting".  It really, REALLY doesn't matter so long as the concept of an intimacy of divinity remains.  It was simply there because it was the best symbol of the divinity between mortal and immortal at the time.

I'm sure if Jesus were here today, he wouldn't be saying that we're supposed to eat his flesh and drink his blood.  The connotation is much different today.

Cliff notes don't work on my posts.
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Re: Are Catholics Cannibals?
« Reply #13 on: September 08, 2007, 05:34:44 PM »
Sorry,  I thought you were getting at something else in your first post. Apologies. :-[

I completely agree with you on communion being symbolic. Are catholics cannibals? Nope. Do they unwittingly encourage cannibalism? I think so.

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Re: Are Catholics Cannibals?
« Reply #14 on: September 10, 2007, 05:12:44 PM »


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Re: Are Catholics Cannibals?
« Reply #15 on: September 10, 2007, 05:35:56 PM »
Since the flesh and blood of Jesus Christ are divine, the bread and wine eaten at mass do not represent the flesh and blood of a normal human.

So Jesus was not, in fact, then, the Son of Man. I get it now.
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Re: Are Catholics Cannibals?
« Reply #16 on: September 10, 2007, 05:57:28 PM »
Since the flesh and blood of Jesus Christ are divine, the bread and wine eaten at mass do not represent the flesh and blood of a normal human.

So Jesus was not, in fact, then, the Son of Man. I get it now.

Read: normal. I did not say Jesus was not a human.
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Re: Are Catholics Cannibals?
« Reply #17 on: September 10, 2007, 06:06:01 PM »
Read: normal. I did not say Jesus was not a human.

You said that his flesh was divine, and therefore the flesh eaten at mass is not of humans. So basically, you said something that has no correlation to the rest of the sentence it was contained within, and my misunderstanding, although totally off the mark (rare) does not make it suddenly make more sense.

Man-flesh or horse anus, it still does not mean that catholics do not practice cannibalism. If anything, it offers a technicality card.
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Re: Are Catholics Cannibals?
« Reply #18 on: September 10, 2007, 06:10:31 PM »
..it's bread.

I think, unless they're digging up Jesus' corpse and scraping off bits of his skin, they're really not even arguably so. It doesn't turn into his flesh after you swallow it. I like the Pope as much as the next guy, but... honestly. It's still bread, not the flesh of the Saviour.

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Re: Are Catholics Cannibals?
« Reply #19 on: September 10, 2007, 06:14:10 PM »
Do you have any evidence to back up your outlandish claim?
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Re: Are Catholics Cannibals?
« Reply #20 on: September 10, 2007, 06:15:25 PM »
..true.

They -could- be eating Jesus' actual flesh. Pardon me for my assumption.

Then, they are cannibals until I have proof that Jesus' flesh is not being consumed.

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« Reply #21 on: September 10, 2007, 06:16:25 PM »
Do you have any evidence to support your outlandish conclusion?
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Re: Are Catholics Cannibals?
« Reply #22 on: September 10, 2007, 06:25:51 PM »
I'm a cannibal. True story.

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Re: Are Catholics Cannibals?
« Reply #23 on: September 10, 2007, 06:26:54 PM »
Do you have any evidence to support your outlandish conclusion?
Do you have any evidence to support your outlandish question?

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« Reply #24 on: September 10, 2007, 07:56:02 PM »
Do you have any evidence to support your outlandish conclusion?
Do you have any evidence to support your outlandish question?

Do you have any evidence to support your outlandish MOMMA?!

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« Reply #25 on: September 10, 2007, 08:02:26 PM »
Do you have any evidence to support your outlandish MOMMA?!

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Re: Are Catholics Cannibals?
« Reply #26 on: September 10, 2007, 08:09:42 PM »
Do you have any evidence to support your outlandish conclusion?
Do you have any evidence to support your outlandish question?

Do you?
My problem with his ideas is that it is a ridiculous thing.

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« Reply #27 on: September 10, 2007, 08:12:36 PM »
Do you have any evidence to support your outlandish MOMMA?!

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Yes.

Oh. Well. Alright, then.

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Re: Are Catholics Cannibals?
« Reply #28 on: September 10, 2007, 08:15:30 PM »
I'm surprised that nobody made a "I eat your mother" joke.
It makes my heart sad. :(

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