Granted and I'm not saying capitalism is falwless, however I am wondering how people how really are hard working entrepeneurs would be treated in the system you propose
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I should really talk to some people who know what they are talking about. I just throw all my political opinions together and call it socialism, as I generally agree with democratic socialists.
However, in the socialism I propose, those who work hard are payed more than those who do not. Perhaps in the socialism I propose we keep the excellent supply-demand, competition, etc. system capitalism has but then make it equal and have the people all own the means of production.
Que? What country would you say is socialist then? You stated before that, "True socialism is democratic." If this is so, then how is a
social democracy =/= to your definition of socialism?
social democracy was in the past like democratic socialism, but now it has become people willing to use capitalism in its entirety, but include social programs. Basically, most forms of social democray, except the most leftist, are pretty much only wellfare state capitalists (perhaps hoping for actual socialism in the future. I don't know, I would have to talk to one
Socialism, actually, can be both communal and individualistic. People work together and help each other with things, but society values the individual above all. As long as the individual is willing to share and aid his fellow individuals.
I already stated that the socialism I favor uses some capitalism. A while ago I read something someone wrote about 'market socialism', which I found very interesting. Perhaps the most accurate name I can think of for my system would be 'democratic market socialism'. I do not deny the benefits of a capitalist economy, above all my socialist ideology is based on my belief that people are equal and that working together, rather than fighting each other, is far better for everyone.
perhaps I exaggerated a bit with 150,000. I say that, poorer people don't have to worry about taxes so much, as it is a smaller total for a smaller income, and they probably have things they can deduct, in some cases not having to pay taxes at all. Yes, Sweden is an exageratted welfare state, if taxes are that high and all they get is free healthcare and social programs if they can't work.
Yes, difficult work can be payed more, and people that were too lazy to go to college (the government would help out a lot with college in my system, so that pretty much everyone could afford to go to it). As I said earlier in this post, I do take some of capitalism and put it into socialism.
What are you talking about? Everybody works for someone else, how is that a big deal? I'm not sure what skewed vision of reality you are living in. One second you say you are for individualism, the next you say you are against business. So what are people to do? Just go around and be individuals and ask the government for money? Where are you going to work if you can't work for someone else? You have to make your own business, which you can't do under this model because apparently it is wrong to hire people to help you run your business. You aren't making any sense.
The businesses are given to the people, ideally. Really, I see that there are some problems with entrusting the people with doing everything, so I guess the government is forced to assist in this area.
Perhaps a form of capitalism would be fine with me, as long as people in this form of capitalism could stop fighting unnecessarily, help people when they need it, etc. Also if everyone would be monetarily equal at birth, and would only become more wealthy if they worked harder in life. However, this capitalism also needs to have society support people unable to work. This is could be problematic, as I dislike greed, etc. but these things seem to be the driving force of capitalism in reality.
Ideally I guess a simple change in society, so that people would see how pointless violence is, and that people would be willing to share if others need assistance, would be enough.
The problem is I'm just too idealistic
edit: sorry, didn't see the other thread 'till after I made this post