Before the Big Bang...

If that's what you believe then that is what you believe.

Going off base from the uselessness of that other thread:

You want to know what was before the Big Bang? Nothingness. No matter, no time, nothing.

Then if we should take the tradition of Christianity into account, Lucifer rebelled against God and was cast out from Heaven. At the casting point, the Big Bang was initiated. Lucifer created the illusion of time, the "veil of time", and tried to make people forget the imminence of God.

And so we stand, ever so dividing from the love of God, falling into Satan's illusion and plan.

Anyways, here is the scene from the movie Waking Life that I took some of the idea from:



The entire movie is actually pretty good, and there are a lot of cool ideas. The layered/animated aspect to the image makes your eyes and brain do a lot more work, so you'll no doubt be tired after watching part of it. I recommend for people to watch it for those who have not.

You do realize that if Theistic Evolution is the case Lucifer would have been thrown out of Heaven after the creative period (thus billions of years after the Big Bang) right?

You do realize that if Theistic Evolution is the case Lucifer would have been thrown out of Heaven after the creative period (thus billions of years after the Big Bang) right?

Yes. The timeline obviously wouldn't work, but this post was more so made to be amusing and incorporate the movie I mentioned, that I happened to re-watch after the mentioned thread.

Quote from: TheRationalTheist on October 04, 2007, 06:28:54 PM

You do realize that if Theistic Evolution is the case Lucifer would have been thrown out of Heaven after the creative period (thus billions of years after the Big Bang) right?

Yes. The timeline obviously wouldn't work, but this post was more so made to be amusing and incorporate the movie I mentioned, that I happened to re-watch after the mentioned thread.

I see, I was just making sure

Just to clear up a quick point.  The idea that there was no time before the big bang was proposed, and then dismissed by Stephen Hawkins.  There are a number of theories about what occurred before the big bang, but the concept that there was no time is no longer one of those proposals.  In modern physics time is viewed as essentially part of space.  As Stephen Hawkins says, it seems silly to view space-time as any other shape than round.  Where is the beginning and end of a circle?  What about a sphere?  What about the 4 dimensional equivalent of a sphere? (Although it's false to think of time as an interchangeable dimension like width, breadth and height).