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why does helium rise

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Helium...

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Helium...
« on: July 31, 2007, 03:47:58 PM »
if we are falling then why does helium rise.... or fall faster

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Tom Bishop

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Re: Helium...
« Reply #1 on: July 31, 2007, 03:50:13 PM »
Helium is less dense than air, and rises through a form of buoyancy.

Re: Helium...
« Reply #2 on: July 31, 2007, 03:50:57 PM »
Better question:  Do you think?

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sharkzf6

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Re: Helium...
« Reply #3 on: July 31, 2007, 03:52:34 PM »
if we are falling then why does helium rise.... or fall faster
*Helium reads this thread and gets confused...*
"Perhaps there will be babblers who, although completely ignorant of mathematics, nevertheless take it upon themselves to pass judgement on mathematical questions..."
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Re: Helium...
« Reply #4 on: July 31, 2007, 03:53:35 PM »
i do think your really dumb.... are you like for real a ice wall haha...... come on

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sokarul

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Re: Helium...
« Reply #5 on: July 31, 2007, 03:56:10 PM »
Helium is less dense than air, and rises through a form of buoyancy.
Is the density of the gas measured at STP or what? 
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Re: Helium...
« Reply #6 on: July 31, 2007, 03:58:40 PM »
i do think your really dumb.... are you like for real a ice wall haha...... come on

We think you're really dumb, too.  ^___^
Where did you educate the biology, in toulet?

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sharkzf6

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Re: Helium...
« Reply #7 on: July 31, 2007, 03:59:34 PM »
i do think your really dumb.... are you like for real a ice wall haha...... come on
*Helium reads this post and feels dumb...*
"Perhaps there will be babblers who, although completely ignorant of mathematics, nevertheless take it upon themselves to pass judgement on mathematical questions..."
- Copernicus

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sharkzf6

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Re: Helium...
« Reply #8 on: July 31, 2007, 04:00:09 PM »
i do think your really dumb.... are you like for real a ice wall haha...... come on

We think you're really dumb, too.  ^___^
*Helium reads this post and feels better...*
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Re: Helium...
« Reply #9 on: July 31, 2007, 04:28:47 PM »
You're both idiots.

Re: Helium...
« Reply #10 on: July 31, 2007, 04:37:26 PM »
i do think your really dumb.... are you like for real a ice wall haha...... come on

Does that make any sense?  English plx

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CommonCents

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Re: Helium...
« Reply #11 on: July 31, 2007, 05:13:39 PM »
i do think your really dumb.... are you like for real a ice wall haha...... come on

Does that make any sense?  English plx

Right back at you!  ^_^
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Re: Helium...
« Reply #12 on: July 31, 2007, 05:32:23 PM »
Helium is less dense than air, and rises through a form of buoyancy.

Explain buoyancy without this "magical, never observed force of gravity" on your FE.

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TheEngineer

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Re: Helium...
« Reply #13 on: July 31, 2007, 05:34:50 PM »
Remember the Equivalence Principle?


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Re: Helium...
« Reply #14 on: July 31, 2007, 05:53:10 PM »
Remember the Equivalence Principle?
I don't know the equivalence principle...

Edit: Is it the thing I know from special relativity?
« Last Edit: July 31, 2007, 06:29:54 PM by andrews »

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divito the truthist

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Re: Helium...
« Reply #15 on: July 31, 2007, 05:59:55 PM »
if we are falling then why does helium rise.... or fall faster

Why does it rise in RE?
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Re: Helium...
« Reply #16 on: July 31, 2007, 06:29:27 PM »
if we are falling then why does helium rise.... or fall faster

Why does it rise in RE?

Gravity is pulling down heavier gases with more force, so something's gotta give: the helium is pushed out of the way and the only way out is up.

Re: Helium...
« Reply #17 on: July 31, 2007, 06:32:02 PM »
If the equivalence principle is what I think it is, then Helium would rise in FE for the same reason it rises in RE, so this test is inconclusive.

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divito the truthist

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Re: Helium...
« Reply #18 on: July 31, 2007, 06:35:10 PM »
If the equivalence principle is what I think it is, then Helium would rise in FE for the same reason it rises in RE, so this test is inconclusive.

Hmm.
« Last Edit: July 31, 2007, 08:59:21 PM by divito »
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Trekky0623

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Re: Helium...
« Reply #19 on: August 01, 2007, 07:47:02 AM »
Quote
Helium...
is fun to inhale.

Hydrogen...
is fun to light.


Re: Helium...
« Reply #20 on: August 01, 2007, 08:28:49 AM »
i do think your really dumb.... are you like for real a ice wall haha...... come on

Does that make any sense?  English plx

Right back at you!  ^_^

You're kidding, right?

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CommonCents

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Re: Helium...
« Reply #21 on: August 01, 2007, 08:46:31 AM »
i do think your really dumb.... are you like for real a ice wall haha...... come on

Does that make any sense?  English plx

Right back at you!  ^_^

You're kidding, right?

plx != English

It's kind of strange to ask someone to speak English when you're not using English yourself.
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Re: Helium...
« Reply #22 on: August 01, 2007, 09:09:16 AM »
plx != English

It's kind of strange to ask someone to speak English when you're not using English yourself.

Oh God, you're not kidding.  I was mocking.

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CommonCents

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Re: Helium...
« Reply #23 on: August 01, 2007, 09:10:39 AM »
^_^
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Re: Helium...
« Reply #24 on: August 01, 2007, 01:18:08 PM »
If the equivalence principle is what I think it is, then Helium would rise in FE for the same reason it rises in RE, so this test is inconclusive.

Hmm.

Yes?

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trig

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Re: Helium...
« Reply #25 on: August 02, 2007, 09:30:50 AM »
If the equivalence principle is what I think it is, then Helium would rise in FE for the same reason it rises in RE, so this test is inconclusive.
The Equivalence Principle is, for the context of this forum, just a way to enter the General Relativity field and make some useless comments that sound very intellectual.

In reality, the EP states that you cannot distinguish between gravitational pull and acceleration locally, and "locally" depends on the precision of your experimental procedures and equipment (if you only have a metal ball and a stopwatch "locally" means many kilometers in any direction, if you have the best equipment available "locally" means only a few kilometers horizontally at most, and a few hundred meters up at most)

If you are observing two places on opposite sides of a planet or on more than one planet, for example, gravitation and acceleration are clearly discernible, so you can tell whether somebody is talking physics or doing cheap philosophy if he can predict mathematically the result of an experiment that includes two far away observed places.

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TheEngineer

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Re: Helium...
« Reply #26 on: August 02, 2007, 11:35:45 AM »
Tidal forces, blah, blah....


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Re: Helium...
« Reply #27 on: August 02, 2007, 02:21:35 PM »
Tidal forces, blah, blah....
Now there's a useless rebuttal!

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Re: Helium...
« Reply #28 on: August 02, 2007, 02:24:19 PM »
OMG!

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sokarul

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Re: Helium...
« Reply #29 on: August 02, 2007, 02:24:57 PM »
Tidal forces, blah, blah....
Its actually quite important, of course you wouldn't know that since you have never taken a GR class.  
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