If the Earth is flat, how is this possible?

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If the Earth is flat, how is this possible?
« on: July 27, 2007, 06:10:54 PM »
Why can somebody get in a plane, travel East for several hours in a straight line, and end up where they started? Why don't they end up at the "edge" of the world?

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Re: If the Earth is flat, how is this possible?
« Reply #1 on: July 27, 2007, 06:21:09 PM »
If you think traveling East around the world is a straight line in either model, you need to be shot.
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Re: If the Earth is flat, how is this possible?
« Reply #2 on: July 27, 2007, 06:23:35 PM »
I think you know what I meant.

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Re: If the Earth is flat, how is this possible?
« Reply #3 on: July 27, 2007, 06:24:53 PM »
Circumnavigation East/West is perfectly possible in the FE model.  North is in the center, East is counter clockwise, West is clockwise.
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Re: If the Earth is flat, how is this possible?
« Reply #4 on: July 27, 2007, 06:40:48 PM »
But what keeps the plane turning clockwise or counterclockwise to stay inside the clockface? If the rudder is straight why doesn't the plane go straight?

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Re: If the Earth is flat, how is this possible?
« Reply #5 on: July 27, 2007, 06:42:43 PM »
I think you know what I meant.
FE plays a word game with the term "circumnavigation", redefining as going in a circle--indeed most any circle. You can circumnavigate the FE by walking in a circle around your living room. The RE definition is stricter. This word game is further explained in the RE Primer.

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Re: If the Earth is flat, how is this possible?
« Reply #6 on: July 27, 2007, 07:08:18 PM »
But what keeps the plane turning clockwise or counterclockwise to stay inside the clockface? If the rudder is straight why doesn't the plane go straight?

The pilots keep the plane on course.

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Re: If the Earth is flat, how is this possible?
« Reply #7 on: July 27, 2007, 07:25:56 PM »
I think you know what I meant.
FE plays a word game with the term "circumnavigation", redefining as going in a circle--indeed most any circle. You can circumnavigate the FE by walking in a circle around your living room.

Do you have any evidence to back up your outlandish claim?  That's ludicrous.
Where did you educate the biology, in toulet?

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Re: If the Earth is flat, how is this possible?
« Reply #8 on: July 27, 2007, 07:33:37 PM »
The OP says nothing about circumnavigation, by the way.  He's asking about going east, traveling in the same direction (let's remember, it's not really a straight line in either model), and coming back to where you started.  That's a small circle, Gulliver, not a great circle, therefore it's not circumnavigation that he's referring to, and he's talking about a phenomenon that is indeed possible on a flat earth.
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Re: If the Earth is flat, how is this possible?
« Reply #9 on: July 27, 2007, 07:58:41 PM »
I think you know what I meant.
FE plays a word game with the term "circumnavigation", redefining as going in a circle--indeed most any circle. You can circumnavigate the FE by walking in a circle around your living room.

Do you have any evidence to back up your outlandish claim?  That's ludicrous.
Well, this post comes to mind: Roundy's Post

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Re: If the Earth is flat, how is this possible?
« Reply #10 on: July 27, 2007, 08:42:15 PM »
Why can somebody get in a plane, travel East for several hours in a straight line, and end up where they started? Why don't they end up at the "edge" of the world?
On a spherical earth you need to turn toward the nearer pole in order to maintain an easterly or westerly direction, your point is invalid in the Northern Hemisphere.  However in the southern hemisphere you actually need to turn south, yet on the FE model you would need to turn north.

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Re: If the Earth is flat, how is this possible?
« Reply #11 on: July 27, 2007, 09:20:24 PM »
I think you know what I meant.
FE plays a word game with the term "circumnavigation", redefining as going in a circle--indeed most any circle. You can circumnavigate the FE by walking in a circle around your living room.

Do you have any evidence to back up your outlandish claim?  That's ludicrous.
Well, this post comes to mind: Roundy's Post

Wow, you mean where I say the same thing I said above?  Nice job, Gulliver!  ::)

Where is it implied that I can walk in a circle in my living room and be circumnavigating the globe, by the way?  ???
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Re: If the Earth is flat, how is this possible?
« Reply #12 on: July 27, 2007, 09:23:50 PM »
Circumnavigation East/West is perfectly possible in the FE model.  North is in the center, East is counter clockwise, West is clockwise.

That makes no sense.
My problem with his ideas is that it is a ridiculous thing.

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Re: If the Earth is flat, how is this possible?
« Reply #13 on: July 27, 2007, 09:26:03 PM »
Circumnavigation East/West is perfectly possible in the FE model.  North is in the center, East is counter clockwise, West is clockwise.

That makes no sense.

Why not?
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Re: If the Earth is flat, how is this possible?
« Reply #14 on: July 27, 2007, 09:29:05 PM »
FE plays a word game with the term "circumnavigation", redefining as going in a circle--indeed most any circle. You can circumnavigate the FE by walking in a circle around your living room.
Quite possibly the stupidest thing ever said on this forum.  And that's saying a lot as is evidenced by my sig.


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Re: If the Earth is flat, how is this possible?
« Reply #15 on: July 27, 2007, 09:29:55 PM »
FE plays a word game with the term "circumnavigation", redefining as going in a circle--indeed most any circle. You can circumnavigate the FE by walking in a circle around your living room.
Quite possibly the stupidest thing ever said on this forum.  And that's saying a lot as is evidenced by my sig.

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Re: If the Earth is flat, how is this possible?
« Reply #16 on: July 27, 2007, 09:44:24 PM »
FE plays a word game with the term "circumnavigation", redefining as going in a circle--indeed most any circle. You can circumnavigate the FE by walking in a circle around your living room.
Quite possibly the stupidest thing ever said on this forum.  And that's saying a lot as is evidenced by my sig.
I don't know, I read in a thread a while back where Tom Bishop tried to argue the exsistence of Santa Claus. I'm not really sure if he was serious though; he seemed serious.

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Re: If the Earth is flat, how is this possible?
« Reply #17 on: July 27, 2007, 09:45:47 PM »
I think you know what I meant.
FE plays a word game with the term "circumnavigation", redefining as going in a circle--indeed most any circle. You can circumnavigate the FE by walking in a circle around your living room.

Do you have any evidence to back up your outlandish claim?  That's ludicrous.
Well, this post comes to mind: Roundy's Post

Wow, you mean where I say the same thing I said above?  Nice job, Gulliver!  ::)

Where is it implied that I can walk in a circle in my living room and be circumnavigating the globe, by the way?  ???
If you think you said the same thing in both posts, you should read again. Look about three posts up in that thread to see divito agreeing with the living room example.

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Re: If the Earth is flat, how is this possible?
« Reply #18 on: July 27, 2007, 10:23:02 PM »
I think you know what I meant.
FE plays a word game with the term "circumnavigation", redefining as going in a circle--indeed most any circle. You can circumnavigate the FE by walking in a circle around your living room.

Do you have any evidence to back up your outlandish claim?  That's ludicrous.
Well, this post comes to mind: Roundy's Post

Wow, you mean where I say the same thing I said above?  Nice job, Gulliver!  ::)

Where is it implied that I can walk in a circle in my living room and be circumnavigating the globe, by the way?  ???
If you think you said the same thing in both posts, you should read again. Look about three posts up in that thread to see divito agreeing with the living room example.

You're right.  I don't say the same thing in that post because in that post I'm talking about actual circumnavigation, not what the OP asked (travel around small circles).  Of course, it doesn't detract from the fact that I validly answered his question.

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Look about three posts up in that thread to see divito agreeing with the living room example.
Oh.  I thought you were saying you were linking to an actual post that made this claim.  Wait a minute!

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Do you have any evidence to back up your outlandish claim?  That's ludicrous.
Well, this post comes to mind: Roundy's Post
Oh yeah, you did!  You implied that my post said you could circumnavigate the globe by walking in a circle in your living room!

To be clear: divito did not say anywhere in that post that by FE standards it is possible to circumnavigate the globe by walking around the living room.  I'm not sure exactly what he was thinking...  ;D but see two posts earlier where he ridicules you for suggesting the same thing.  divito does not represent FE opinion, anyway so it's kind of a moot point (You said "FE plays a word game with circumnavigation..."); why do you so often see it fit to point out that divito is not an actual FEer, if you are going to imply here that he is?
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Re: If the Earth is flat, how is this possible?
« Reply #19 on: July 28, 2007, 11:22:51 AM »
Why can somebody get in a plane, travel East for several hours in a straight line, and end up where they started? Why don't they end up at the "edge" of the world?
LOL you fail.

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Re: If the Earth is flat, how is this possible?
« Reply #20 on: July 28, 2007, 11:30:55 AM »
Q: "When traveling in a straight direction, you will always reach the same point on the globe from where you started. How can this happen if the world is flat?"

A: You need to have evidence for this to be true. Also, define "straight." Remember, the northern point on the compass is, under most circumstances (unless near the centre or deep in the ice wall), pointing toward the centre of the Earth. Therefore, if you follow your compass due east or due west, ending up at the same point you started from, you've just gone around the world in a circle.
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Re: If the Earth is flat, how is this possible?
« Reply #21 on: July 28, 2007, 12:11:03 PM »
Thhe question should have been: "When traveling in a straight direction, without watching/following a compass[/i,] you will always reach the same point on the globe from where you started. How can this happen if the world is flat?"
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Re: If the Earth is flat, how is this possible?
« Reply #22 on: July 28, 2007, 12:13:31 PM »
So how would you know you were going straight?


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Re: If the Earth is flat, how is this possible?
« Reply #23 on: July 28, 2007, 01:15:34 PM »
So how would you know you were going straight?

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Re: If the Earth is flat, how is this possible?
« Reply #24 on: July 28, 2007, 02:19:11 PM »
How about using rope? We'd need a lot of it, but it'd prove conclusively once and for all...
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Re: If the Earth is flat, how is this possible?
« Reply #25 on: July 28, 2007, 02:41:29 PM »
How about using rope? We'd need a lot of it, but it'd prove conclusively once and for all...

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