The RE sun, bombs, and you!

Not really more so it became your brain is too small to comprehend, good try though.

Oh yeah and the sun is not a bomb. Just because you think something doesn't make it true, you seem to fail at understanding this.

My god, narc, did you read the lawson's rule link i provided?

So basically, it wont explode because of "gravity"... The lame RE answer for everything.

However, look at an explosion within a jet engine. It relies on heavy compression. The more compression, the greater release of energy during an explosion. So really, you're only arguing in favor of the sun exploding.

Are you saying a jet engine ALSO bursts into flames all at once? Invalid comparison.

Are you saying a jet engine ALSO bursts into flames all at once? Invalid comparison.

All of the fuel in the presence of the explosion is consumed.

I must agree with Ferdinand mostly. It is somewhat valid for me.  A rocket engine is a controlled reaction, hence why it doesn't explode. It can only burn so much an excess doesn't usually burn, this is more evident in a car as some of the fuel doesn't burn and gets burnt by the catalytic converter. If you but in too much fuel there is not enough oxygen and it floods the engine.

I must agree with Ferdinand mostly. It is somewhat valid for me.  A rocket engine is a controlled reaction, hence why it doesn't explode. It can only burn so much an excess doesn't usually burn, this is more evident in a car as some of the fuel doesn't burn and gets burnt by the catalytic converter. If you but in too much fuel there is not enough oxygen and it floods the engine.

The rocket works because the O2 is part of the required fuel. So it only burns as much fuel is present.

The suns fuel is all present and ready, always under the required pressure for a reaction, always at a desireable heat... Where is the explosion hiding?

Quote from: Marinade on July 20, 2007, 10:01:23 AM

I must agree with Ferdinand mostly. It is somewhat valid for me.  A rocket engine is a controlled reaction, hence why it doesn't explode. It can only burn so much an excess doesn't usually burn, this is more evident in a car as some of the fuel doesn't burn and gets burnt by the catalytic converter. If you but in too much fuel there is not enough oxygen and it floods the engine.

The rocket works because the O2 is part of the required fuel. So it only burns as much fuel is present.

The suns fuel is all present and ready, always under the required pressure for a reaction, always at a desireable heat... Where is the explosion hiding?

Right there. The pressure is too much at the center for the explosion to start; Not under the required pressure. There is an upper limit to where the explosion can happen.

Lawson's rule. i linked you to it. because its a FUSION reaction, not an explosion, not combustion, it doesn't follow the exact same rules as any conventional system. You're comparing a bird to a bat and saying "they fly, so they must be the same."

Fusion requires pressure. Enormous pressure. At what point do the atoms say, "I refuse to fuse we are too close!"?

The volume rate f (reactions per volume per time) of fusion reactions is:
f=n_Dn_T(ov)=1/4n²_e(ov)

The confinement time τ_E measures the rate at which a system loses energy to its environment. It is the energy content W divided by the power loss P_loss (rate of energy loss):
τ_E =W/P_loss

Have fun.

Oh, the RE model has a self-servicing loophole-counter. How convinient of them to include that...

 

Oh, the RE model has a self-servicing loophole-counter. How convinient of them to include that...

 

You are sitting here disrespecting every scientist that has studied the sun.  They just cant be wrong, science doesn't work that way.  They are actually studying the sun rather than starting threads about kitchen floors being flat. 

But since that somehow makes you smarter than the scientists please tell us how the FE sun works in detail.   

I've been telling you about it the whole time.

And you're one to talk about loopholes (coughconspiracytheorycough).

Yeah, anyone using the conspiracy and loophol e in the same forum is a hypocrite.

Lol where the hell do you come up with this stuff narc?

Lol where the hell do you come up with this stuff narc?

It was fun, huh?

I really don't get why people don't realize that Narcberry is a troll and not an actual FE'er.

The Sun explodes with a force equal to several hundred nuclear bombs every second. That's why it's a giant fucking ball of flame. This reaction is occurring at the center of the Sun where everything is squeezed together, but due to the insanely massive amounts of mass involved (about 300,000 times as much mass as the Earth, or, roughly the same difference as the difference in height between Mt. Everest and a Marshmallow), this reaction will take billions of years to complete because there simply isn't room enough for all the atoms to squeeze in at once.

This wasn't difficult. This is information I recall from a high school textbook. It's neither obtuse nor arcane knowledge. Until someone actually provides a reason to discredit it, it stands.

This wasn't difficult. This is information I recall from a high school textbook. It's neither obtuse nor arcane knowledge. Until someone actually provides a reason to discredit it, it stands.

Proof that the sun is 3,000 miles above the sea level of the earth:

On March 21-22 the sun is directly overhead at the equator and appears 45 degrees above the horizon at 45 degrees north and south latitude. As the angle of sun above the earth at the equator is 90 degrees while it is 45 degrees at 45 degrees north or south latitude, it follows that the angle at the sun between the vertical from the horizon and the line from the observers at 45 degrees north and south must also be 45 degrees. The result is two right angled triangles with legs of equal length. The distance between the equator and the points at 45 degrees north or south is approximately 3,000 miles. Ergo, the sun would be an equal distance above the equator.

Quote from: Ulrichomega on July 18, 2007, 09:07:18 AM

You aren't even talking on the same scale of gravitational magnitude. The Sun is SO much more massive than us, and its gravitational field holds the nuclear explosion in place.

The RE model's sun:
The equivelant of 183,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 pounds of TNT explodes per second. And you're worried about gravity? How does this not ignite the rest of the fuel instantaneously?

The sun does not ignite. It changes to a different substance. It isn't like pouring gasoline over a fire...

So you are all saying the bomb is too big to explode. Got it.

We are all saying that the bomb is so big that it takes billions of years to explode

Quote from: narcberry on July 20, 2007, 09:08:35 AM

So you are all saying the bomb is too big to explode. Got it.

We are all saying that the bomb is so big that it takes billions of years to explode

We are saying it is so big it's gravity holds it together and prevents the exploding.

Until it runs out of reactants. Then its screwed.

Oh, and are you sure about that Tom?

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This wasn't difficult. This is information I recall from a high school textbook. It's neither obtuse nor arcane knowledge. Until someone actually provides a reason to discredit it, it stands.

Proof that the sun is 3,000 miles above the sea level of the earth:

On March 21-22 the sun is directly overhead at the equator and appears 45 degrees above the horizon at 45 degrees north and south latitude. As the angle of sun above the earth at the equator is 90 degrees while it is 45 degrees at 45 degrees north or south latitude, it follows that the angle at the sun between the vertical from the horizon and the line from the observers at 45 degrees north and south must also be 45 degrees. The result is two right angled triangles with legs of equal length. The distance between the equator and the points at 45 degrees north or south is approximately 3,000 miles. Ergo, the sun would be an equal distance above the equator.

Well if the earth was round that wouldn't work as that shape made wouldn't be a triangle. 

How does the fe sun work again? Magic? 

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This wasn't difficult. This is information I recall from a high school textbook. It's neither obtuse nor arcane knowledge. Until someone actually provides a reason to discredit it, it stands.

Proof that the sun is 3,000 miles above the sea level of the earth:

On March 21-22 the sun is directly overhead at the equator and appears 45 degrees above the horizon at 45 degrees north and south latitude. As the angle of sun above the earth at the equator is 90 degrees while it is 45 degrees at 45 degrees north or south latitude, it follows that the angle at the sun between the vertical from the horizon and the line from the observers at 45 degrees north and south must also be 45 degrees. The result is two right angled triangles with legs of equal length. The distance between the equator and the points at 45 degrees north or south is approximately 3,000 miles. Ergo, the sun would be an equal distance above the equator.

Again, this argument assumes, incorrectly, a FE. You argue from a challenged premise. Ergo, you're a fool.

How does the fe sun work again? Magic? 

Yes, that is correct.

Well, the Creature a while back stated that the conspiracy made the ice wall (he was messing around). But, why can't we apply that here. The conspiracy maintains a 5 man crew on board the sun, which is powered by solar power.

The conspiracy maintains a 5 man crew on board the sun, which is powered by solar power.

Best statement ever.

Quote from: sokarul on July 22, 2007, 08:56:14 AM

How does the fe sun work again? Magic? 

Yes, that is correct.

As a spokesman for FE, I am required to state that this is not correct.

Oh, and are you sure about that Tom?

Yep. The same data could be used under the assumption of a Round Earth and give us  a distance 93,000,000 miles.

Well if the earth was round that wouldn't work as that shape made wouldn't be a triangle.

The earth is not round. The earth is flat.