The RE sun, bombs, and you!

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Re: The RE sun, bombs, and you!
« Reply #180 on: September 21, 2007, 02:06:10 PM »
To be technical on the mass of a proton. That's just what it's assumed to be, we haven't been able to check it experimentally yet.

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A new limit on photon mass, less than 10-51 grams or 7 x 10-19 electron volts, has been established by an experiment in which light is aimed at a sensitive torsion balance; if light had mass, the rotating balance would suffer an additional tiny torque. This represents a 20-fold improvement over previous limits on photon mass.

Photon mass is expected to be zero by most physicists, but this is an assumption which must be checked experimentally. A nonzero mass would make trouble for special relativity, Maxwell's equations, and for Coulomb's inverse-square law for electrical attraction.

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So it's most likely zero, but we haven't been able to prove that yet.
Good catch. Thanks.

Re: The RE sun, bombs, and you!
« Reply #181 on: September 21, 2007, 04:11:00 PM »
The difference being that light lacks mass.
So comparing a photon to a rock is a bit of a stretch.

They have no mass but they do carry mommentum. It's jsut an analogy.

No. not right at all. Try again later.

Umm, no. They do. Sorry, masters in physics wins over armchair physicist.

Re: The RE sun, bombs, and you!
« Reply #182 on: September 21, 2007, 04:12:18 PM »
The difference being that light lacks mass.
So comparing a photon to a rock is a bit of a stretch.

They have no mass but they do carry mommentum. It's jsut an analogy.

No. not right at all. Try again later.
His analogy sucked but light does carry momentum. 

It doesn't suck. It's used all the time to make this point.

Re: The RE sun, bombs, and you!
« Reply #183 on: September 21, 2007, 04:12:54 PM »
The difference being that light lacks mass.
So comparing a photon to a rock is a bit of a stretch.

They have no mass but they do carry mommentum. It's jsut an analogy.

No. not right at all. Try again later.
"Apart from energy a photon also carries momentum and has a polarization."

Reference: Wikipedia.

i'm good. I tried to look up the formula for momentum and came upon the formula for massless momentum. So i believe you lol.

Ok. Glad we're clear on it then.

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Re: The RE sun, bombs, and you!
« Reply #184 on: September 21, 2007, 09:56:18 PM »
The difference being that light lacks mass.
So comparing a photon to a rock is a bit of a stretch.

They have no mass but they do carry mommentum. It's jsut an analogy.

No. not right at all. Try again later.

Umm, no. They do. Sorry, masters in physics wins over armchair physicist.
I'm sorry i don't have an armchair.

Re: The RE sun, bombs, and you!
« Reply #185 on: September 21, 2007, 10:05:29 PM »
The difference being that light lacks mass.
So comparing a photon to a rock is a bit of a stretch.

They have no mass but they do carry mommentum. It's jsut an analogy.

No. not right at all. Try again later.

Umm, no. They do. Sorry, masters in physics wins over armchair physicist.
I'm sorry i don't have an armchair.
Then you might consider a diet -- or wider or sturdier (or both) armchairs.

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Re: The RE sun, bombs, and you!
« Reply #186 on: September 21, 2007, 10:11:08 PM »
The difference being that light lacks mass.
So comparing a photon to a rock is a bit of a stretch.

They have no mass but they do carry mommentum. It's jsut an analogy.

No. not right at all. Try again later.

Umm, no. They do. Sorry, masters in physics wins over armchair physicist.
I'm sorry i don't have an armchair.
Then you might consider a diet -- or wider or sturdier (or both) armchairs.
Neh, eating less wouldn't help me. Considering i weigh 130, running 6 miles a day tends to keep me from getting fat.

Re: The RE sun, bombs, and you!
« Reply #187 on: September 21, 2007, 10:17:57 PM »
Raist all I'm saying is you'd better know what you're talking about if you're going to lecture.

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Re: The RE sun, bombs, and you!
« Reply #188 on: September 22, 2007, 11:23:21 AM »
Man, you RE'ers are funny. You've been arguing with each other for over a page because you all know you cannot refute my proof.

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Re: The RE sun, bombs, and you!
« Reply #189 on: September 22, 2007, 11:26:00 AM »
That's because the only things you've proven on this site are that you're name lies, and that you don't know much about science. Why would we try to disprove that?
Haha Tom is so funny. He can't be serious, no one is that stubborn or dumb.

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Re: The RE sun, bombs, and you!
« Reply #190 on: September 22, 2007, 01:54:24 PM »
Raist all I'm saying is you'd better know what you're talking about if you're going to lecture.
I do as i will. If i'm wrong, oh well it's the internet. Physics isn't really my department anyways. Chemistry is my real passion. I love things that go boom. (not burn fast, go boom).

Re: The RE sun, bombs, and you!
« Reply #191 on: September 23, 2007, 01:30:05 PM »
Man, you RE'ers are funny. You've been arguing with each other for over a page because you all know you cannot refute my proof.

I responded with this:

"This would be because the inward force of gravity balances the outward forces of pressure from the light the sun creates. The balance was achieved when the sun was forming. The sun *will* explode in 5 billion years as the really hardcore fusion happens at the end of its life. Honestly, you guys are not going to win these arguments going up against a physicist."

Respond to that.

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Re: The RE sun, bombs, and you!
« Reply #192 on: September 23, 2007, 04:43:19 PM »
limedrops rule. I responded. Now respond to my response.

Re: The RE sun, bombs, and you!
« Reply #193 on: September 23, 2007, 04:53:16 PM »
limedrops rule. I responded. Now respond to my response.
Fine. Your response fails, just like you do.

Re: The RE sun, bombs, and you!
« Reply #194 on: September 23, 2007, 04:54:02 PM »
Sorry Raist I missed your response before.

Raist all I'm saying is you'd better know what you're talking about if you're going to lecture.
I do as i will. If i'm wrong, oh well it's the internet. Physics isn't really my department anyways. Chemistry is my real passion. I love things that go boom. (not burn fast, go boom).

Yes you can do as you will. But when you try to tell a physicist that he's wrong about a physics question when in fact you are just ignorant it does not make you look good at all.

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Re: The RE sun, bombs, and you!
« Reply #195 on: September 23, 2007, 04:59:54 PM »
Sorry Raist I missed your response before.

Raist all I'm saying is you'd better know what you're talking about if you're going to lecture.
I do as i will. If i'm wrong, oh well it's the internet. Physics isn't really my department anyways. Chemistry is my real passion. I love things that go boom. (not burn fast, go boom).

Yes you can do as you will. But when you try to tell a physicist that he's wrong about a physics question when in fact you are just ignorant it does not make you look good at all.
Lol i'll live with it. I'm told i'm wrong about biology by people who think evolution will happen just because it looks like it should all the time. I live with it and the only thing i think is they don't know biology well. i don't judge people as much as some do i guess.

Re: The RE sun, bombs, and you!
« Reply #196 on: September 23, 2007, 07:22:12 PM »
Sorry Raist I missed your response before.

Raist all I'm saying is you'd better know what you're talking about if you're going to lecture.
I do as i will. If i'm wrong, oh well it's the internet. Physics isn't really my department anyways. Chemistry is my real passion. I love things that go boom. (not burn fast, go boom).

Yes you can do as you will. But when you try to tell a physicist that he's wrong about a physics question when in fact you are just ignorant it does not make you look good at all.
Lol i'll live with it. I'm told i'm wrong about biology by people who think evolution will happen just because it looks like it should all the time. I live with it and the only thing i think is they don't know biology well. i don't judge people as much as some do i guess.
You guess wrong.

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Re: The RE sun, bombs, and you!
« Reply #197 on: September 23, 2007, 08:06:10 PM »
Look i have two posts in a row with nobody in between.

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Re: The RE sun, bombs, and you!
« Reply #198 on: September 23, 2007, 08:09:18 PM »
snoozles.