The RE sun, bombs, and you!

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KingBunny

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Re: The RE sun, bombs, and you!
« Reply #120 on: September 05, 2007, 06:29:35 PM »
The sun is an object denser than earth. We know it is denser because it has a higher equilibrium than earth within the UA. Its regular cycles are the effects of residual motion. The pressure of the UA has squished the sun so that the top and bottom are nearly flat. The bottom surface is dense, flat, and highly reflective. As the heat, which comes from the core of earth, dissipates towards the sun it is reflected off the surface. This is why sunlight is percieved as "warm." Most of this infrared light is changed due to the acceleration of the earth and sun, as well as atmospheric effects into visible light.

There, much more likely than a giant bomb that is fueled, detonated but refuses to explode.

...wait.. so all heat and light coming from the sun.. is actually just heat coming from the Earth.. and going out in all directions.. except some of it bounces off of the sun.. which is in effect a gigantic mirror which is always facing the Earth at a perfect angle to appear to be a perfect circle.. so some of the heat comes back at us.. and this giant circular mirror apparently magnifies the heat by about a billion times, and somehow turns it into light? Did I get that right?
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The Communist

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Re: The RE sun, bombs, and you!
« Reply #121 on: September 06, 2007, 08:12:08 AM »
The sun is an object denser than earth. We know it is denser because it has a higher equilibrium than earth within the UA. Its regular cycles are the effects of residual motion. The pressure of the UA has squished the sun so that the top and bottom are nearly flat. The bottom surface is dense, flat, and highly reflective. As the heat, which comes from the core of earth, dissipates towards the sun it is reflected off the surface. This is why sunlight is percieved as "warm." Most of this infrared light is changed due to the acceleration of the earth and sun, as well as atmospheric effects into visible light.

There, much more likely than a giant bomb that is fueled, detonated but refuses to explode.

...wait.. so all heat and light coming from the sun.. is actually just heat coming from the Earth.. and going out in all directions.. except some of it bounces off of the sun.. which is in effect a gigantic mirror which is always facing the Earth at a perfect angle to appear to be a perfect circle.. so some of the heat comes back at us.. and this giant circular mirror apparently magnifies the heat by about a billion times, and somehow turns it into light? Did I get that right?

That is correct, sir.
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The Communist

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Re: The RE sun, bombs, and you!
« Reply #122 on: September 06, 2007, 08:18:35 AM »
A pot of hot water thrown in the arctic will freeze before it hits the ground.

I'd like to see that.

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It did not freeze otherwise we would hear ice particles fall onto the railing snd porch.  The water merely evaporated.
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Re: The RE sun, bombs, and you!
« Reply #123 on: September 06, 2007, 12:41:48 PM »
Interesting theory. I don't see how it could work, but all the same its nice. My main problem is that the heat coming from the core wuld either have to be far greater than that of the sun, and therefore only be partilly reflected to give us the heat we currently enjoy. Or it would have to be magnified in some way by this large disc above us.

Option one is impossible, option 2 is implausible.

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Re: The RE sun, bombs, and you!
« Reply #124 on: September 06, 2007, 12:50:46 PM »
Interesting theory. I don't see how it could work, but all the same its nice. My main problem is that the heat coming from the core wuld either have to be far greater than that of the sun, and therefore only be partilly reflected to give us the heat we currently enjoy. Or it would have to be magnified in some way by this large disc above us.

Option one is impossible, option 2 is implausible.

It is neither. The earth is much larger than the sun. The heat you feel is the effect of the heat from a large area of the earth that heads directly at you via reflection off the sun. So it is a kind of magnifying effect, but not from lensing on the sun.

Re: The RE sun, bombs, and you!
« Reply #125 on: September 06, 2007, 02:14:16 PM »
Interesting theory. I don't see how it could work, but all the same its nice. My main problem is that the heat coming from the core wuld either have to be far greater than that of the sun, and therefore only be partilly reflected to give us the heat we currently enjoy. Or it would have to be magnified in some way by this large disc above us.

Option one is impossible, option 2 is implausible.

It is neither. The earth is much larger than the sun. The heat you feel is the effect of the heat from a large area of the earth that heads directly at you via reflection off the sun. So it is a kind of magnifying effect, but not from lensing on the sun.
Delusional still?

Yeah, right: The heat of the Earth is what heats the Earth.

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KingBunny

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Re: The RE sun, bombs, and you!
« Reply #126 on: September 06, 2007, 02:32:37 PM »
Interesting theory. I don't see how it could work, but all the same its nice. My main problem is that the heat coming from the core wuld either have to be far greater than that of the sun, and therefore only be partilly reflected to give us the heat we currently enjoy. Or it would have to be magnified in some way by this large disc above us.

Option one is impossible, option 2 is implausible.

It is neither. The earth is much larger than the sun. The heat you feel is the effect of the heat from a large area of the earth that heads directly at you via reflection off the sun. So it is a kind of magnifying effect, but not from lensing on the sun.

..even in the winter?  :o

Put your hands on the ground in the winter and tell me how much heat you feel. People at the equator are frying eggs with that heat, at the same time that the ground is sapping your luke-warm body heat and turning hobos into popsicles.

PS: Where's Tom. I think a chipmunk ate him. He'd have an answer.  :(
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Re: The RE sun, bombs, and you!
« Reply #127 on: September 06, 2007, 05:04:40 PM »
Yeah, the heat from the Earth alone is not enough. If the Earth is NOT moving with almost the speed of light.
But since the FE implies that Earth is already moving at speeds close of lightspeed, when the radiation bounces back from Sun, the Earth is going towards that radiation with such speed that the radiation shifts toward blue spectrum - hence the mild infradred (and maybe radiowaves) becomes visible light and intense heat.
Is like some of the energy used to accelerate the Earth is used to heat the Earth via this "conversion".

Analogy - a hummingbird in fly doesn't have itself much energy, but if is hit by a plane that travels with a Mach1 speed, it will become an deadly artilery shell...

Now I realize... the Global warming is the result of numerous radio and TV stations bouncing back of Sun their radiowaves as infrared light!
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Re: The RE sun, bombs, and you!
« Reply #128 on: September 06, 2007, 05:06:02 PM »
The heat from my love warms the passions of children everyplace.
My problem with his ideas is that it is a ridiculous thing.

Genius. PURE, undiluted genius.

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Re: The RE sun, bombs, and you!
« Reply #129 on: September 06, 2007, 05:58:45 PM »
The heat from my love warms the passions of children everyplace.

This reminds me off a song.

"I have AIDS, BEASTMAN AIDS, and i'll spread them to every good girl and boy tonight."


Fricking aweosme song

Re: The RE sun, bombs, and you!
« Reply #130 on: September 06, 2007, 06:15:58 PM »
Yeah, the heat from the Earth alone is not enough. If the Earth is NOT moving with almost the speed of light.
But since the FE implies that Earth is already moving at speeds close of lightspeed, when the radiation bounces back from Sun, the Earth is going towards that radiation with such speed that the radiation shifts toward blue spectrum - hence the mild infradred (and maybe radiowaves) becomes visible light and intense heat.
Is like some of the energy used to accelerate the Earth is used to heat the Earth via this "conversion".

Analogy - a hummingbird in fly doesn't have itself much energy, but if is hit by a plane that travels with a Mach1 speed, it will become an deadly artilery shell...

Now I realize... the Global warming is the result of numerous radio and TV stations bouncing back of Sun their radiowaves as infrared light!
No, that's drivel. The relative speed is the issue, and you're still not going to get your free energy.

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narcberry

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Re: The RE sun, bombs, and you!
« Reply #131 on: September 06, 2007, 06:19:07 PM »
The only reason the equator is warmer is because the sun is closer to that area in it's path. Thus more heat is reflected there. Areas where an equal amount of heat is dissipated from the surface but very little is reflected back would, of course, be colder. But do not be confused, even the colder areas have a lot of heat.

Re: The RE sun, bombs, and you!
« Reply #132 on: September 06, 2007, 06:55:49 PM »
No, that's drivel. The relative speed is the issue, and you're still not going to get your free energy.
Wait... relative as in Special Relativity?

Re: The RE sun, bombs, and you!
« Reply #133 on: September 06, 2007, 07:03:41 PM »
No, that's drivel. The relative speed is the issue, and you're still not going to get your free energy.
Wait... relative as in Special Relativity?
Oh, you're heard of SR! I couldn't tell.

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KingBunny

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Re: The RE sun, bombs, and you!
« Reply #134 on: September 07, 2007, 06:03:39 AM »
The only reason the equator is warmer is because the sun is closer to that area in it's path. Thus more heat is reflected there. Areas where an equal amount of heat is dissipated from the surface but very little is reflected back would, of course, be colder. But do not be confused, even the colder areas have a lot of heat.

If it weren't for the sun, the entire Earth would be like the arctic 24/7, correct? Since the equator is only warmer because of the sun.

So if you put a big mirror above an arctic world, it will shine back enough heat to cook an egg?

By that logic, the mirror in my bathroom should have instantly scorched a hole through the wall.

I don't think you understand how mirrors work. They reflect, they don't draw-in heat from an entire planet like some sort of magical vortex, shooting it back at 1,000 times the strength of the entire combined heat, while converting much into light.

Put a mirror in an oven and see how bright it gets. (and if it melts through the door, shooting a beam into space)
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Ferdinand Magellen

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Re: The RE sun, bombs, and you!
« Reply #135 on: September 07, 2007, 03:50:00 PM »
The sun is an object denser than earth. We know it is denser because it has a higher equilibrium than earth within the UA. Its regular cycles are the effects of residual motion. The pressure of the UA has squished the sun so that the top and bottom are nearly flat. The bottom surface is dense, flat, and highly reflective. As the heat, which comes from the core of earth, dissipates towards the sun it is reflected off the surface. This is why sunlight is percieved as "warm." Most of this infrared light is changed due to the acceleration of the earth and sun, as well as atmospheric effects into visible light.

There, much more likely than a giant bomb that is fueled, detonated but refuses to explode.

Especially the free energy part. If warmth all came from the earth and was merely reflected off the sun, it'd be warmer underground, not cooler! And where did light come from in this reaction? The only explanation is free energy. Narc, you can do better than this.
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Re: The RE sun, bombs, and you!
« Reply #136 on: September 08, 2007, 05:59:49 AM »
Ah I see, the heat is emitted and much of it is then refected back towards the Earth. Still implausible, but better.

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Re: The RE sun, bombs, and you!
« Reply #137 on: September 08, 2007, 10:39:38 PM »
The sun is an object denser than earth. We know it is denser because it has a higher equilibrium than earth within the UA. Its regular cycles are the effects of residual motion. The pressure of the UA has squished the sun so that the top and bottom are nearly flat. The bottom surface is dense, flat, and highly reflective. As the heat, which comes from the core of earth, dissipates towards the sun it is reflected off the surface. This is why sunlight is percieved as "warm." Most of this infrared light is changed due to the acceleration of the earth and sun, as well as atmospheric effects into visible light.

There, much more likely than a giant bomb that is fueled, detonated but refuses to explode.

Especially the free energy part. If warmth all came from the earth and was merely reflected off the sun, it'd be warmer underground, not cooler! And where did light come from in this reaction? The only explanation is free energy. Narc, you can do better than this.

It is hotter underground on both the RE and FE models.

Look up mile deep mines and you'll probably read about high temperatures.

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Re: The RE sun, bombs, and you!
« Reply #138 on: September 09, 2007, 02:53:28 PM »
Not as hot as the sun however. The idea that the dissapated heat from the Earth is reflected cincentrated at the Earth s interesting, I'm unconvinced it works out though. I leave that to someone more capable.

Re: The RE sun, bombs, and you!
« Reply #139 on: September 09, 2007, 03:16:03 PM »
Not as hot as the sun however. The idea that the dissapated heat from the Earth is reflected cincentrated at the Earth s interesting, I'm unconvinced it works out though. I leave that to someone more capable.
It fails.

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narcberry

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Re: The RE sun, bombs, and you!
« Reply #140 on: September 09, 2007, 08:36:42 PM »
The only reason the equator is warmer is because the sun is closer to that area in it's path. Thus more heat is reflected there. Areas where an equal amount of heat is dissipated from the surface but very little is reflected back would, of course, be colder. But do not be confused, even the colder areas have a lot of heat.

If it weren't for the sun, the entire Earth would be like the arctic 24/7, correct? Since the equator is only warmer because of the sun.

So if you put a big mirror above an arctic world, it will shine back enough heat to cook an egg?

By that logic, the mirror in my bathroom should have instantly scorched a hole through the wall.

I don't think you understand how mirrors work. They reflect, they don't draw-in heat from an entire planet like some sort of magical vortex, shooting it back at 1,000 times the strength of the entire combined heat, while converting much into light.

Put a mirror in an oven and see how bright it gets. (and if it melts through the door, shooting a beam into space)

The sun is only a small source of heat. Without it, we would be cooler as we cannot contain as much heat but all heat comes from the earth anyways, a fact you forgot.

Re: The RE sun, bombs, and you!
« Reply #141 on: September 10, 2007, 03:34:05 PM »
hmmm..i always believed that without the sun we would FREEZE...

and i have a very hard time believing a small little thing 32mls in diameter 3000!!miles away can heat the entire earth, especially when this sun is magically transforming the little heat given off by the earth to 1000x what it was and light at the same time!!!

im done
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narcberry

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Re: The RE sun, bombs, and you!
« Reply #142 on: September 12, 2007, 07:35:52 AM »
It doesn't heat the earth. The source of all heat is the earth's core. The sun feels warm because it reflects some of this heat.

QED earth is flat.

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« Reply #143 on: September 12, 2007, 08:54:51 AM »

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Re: The RE sun, bombs, and you!
« Reply #144 on: September 12, 2007, 11:15:54 AM »
It doesn't heat the earth. The source of all heat is the earth's core. The sun feels warm because it reflects some of this heat.

QED earth is flat.
Keep dreaming.

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Re: The RE sun, bombs, and you!
« Reply #145 on: September 12, 2007, 02:28:33 PM »
Correct, it is unstable and would lead to an explosion. How does the sun stay controlled and stable? Because it has a lot more unstable reactions going on?

the sun isn't stable, it's constantly changing. And it is exploding in a sence.
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Re: The RE sun, bombs, and you!
« Reply #146 on: September 12, 2007, 03:14:14 PM »
Its cyclic logic to the extreme, and its an interesting concept. Its not correct however.

Re: The RE sun, bombs, and you!
« Reply #147 on: September 12, 2007, 03:28:19 PM »
It doesn't heat the earth. The source of all heat is the earth's core. The sun feels warm because it reflects some of this heat.

QED earth is flat.

The concept of a "core", or centre, is only possible on a round earth. And if this "core" is the north pole (which it must be in FE) then why is the north pole frozen. Haha got u narc
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Re: The RE sun, bombs, and you!
« Reply #148 on: September 13, 2007, 10:57:14 AM »
In his defense the idea of a core, stuck between the UA and the Earth, has been brought up in relation to earthquakes and volcanos. Not a good theory but it would work.

Not that it works perfectly, and not that it works in this case. Nice trolling though.

Re: The RE sun, bombs, and you!
« Reply #149 on: September 13, 2007, 12:31:16 PM »
thanks. 8)
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