Melting

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Melting
« on: July 18, 2007, 01:46:25 AM »
What would happen if the ice caps melted???

Is it possible for the ocean to rise above the ice wall?

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The Communist

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Re: Melting
« Reply #1 on: July 20, 2007, 08:23:29 AM »
I have proven that sea levels would fall due to melting ice caps: http://theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=14737.0
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Re: Melting
« Reply #2 on: July 20, 2007, 09:45:38 AM »
I have proven that sea levels would fall due to melting ice caps: http://theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=14737.0
Incorrect. If the ice caps as we know them melt, the sea level will increase. The simple explanation - not all the ice is currently in the “glass”. Most people who suffer from this misconception rely on the “melting ice in a glass” experiment. This experiment does not apply to ice caps as not all the ice is “floating” in the oceans. Try this experiment: fill the glass with ice and water. Place it next to a hard surface which also has ice frozen to it. Insure when the ice on the surface melts, the resulting water flows into the glass. Now observe what happens as all the ice (surface and glass) begins to melt.
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Re: Melting
« Reply #3 on: July 20, 2007, 09:50:52 AM »
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Most people who suffer from this misconception rely on the “melting ice in a glass” experiment. This experiment does not apply to ice caps as not all the ice is “floating” in the oceans.

Actually, the vast majority of the of the ice within the ice shelves are already below sea level. As we should know by now, this being the Flat Earth Society, the Ice Shelves rises only about 150 feet above sea level, terminating as a vertical front of ice at the coast. It's the Ice Wall described in the FAQ. Consult the expeditions of Sir James Clark Ross for a reference.

From http://www.asoc.org/general/iceshelve.htm

    "The weight of Antarctica's ice is so enormous that it has literally pressed the continent two thirds of a mile (one kilometer) into the earth. Under the massive forces of their own weight, the ice sheets deform and drag themselves outward. Very large glaciers called ice streams flow through them continually, transporting ice from the center of the continent to the sea."

There we can see that the Ice Shelves extend one kilometer beneath sea level. Therefore, most of the Ice Shelves are already below sea level, less dense than the water which surrounds it.

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Fritz Zwicky

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Re: Melting
« Reply #4 on: July 20, 2007, 10:00:28 AM »
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Most people who suffer from this misconception rely on the “melting ice in a glass” experiment. This experiment does not apply to ice caps as not all the ice is “floating” in the oceans.

Actually, the vast majority of the of the ice within the ice shelves are already below sea level. As we should know by now, this being the Flat Earth Society, the Ice Shelves rises only about 150 feet above sea level, terminating as a vertical front of ice at the coast. It's the Ice Wall described in the FAQ. Consult the expeditions of Sir James Clark Ross for a reference.

From http://www.asoc.org/general/iceshelve.htm

    "The weight of Antarctica's ice is so enormous that it has literally pressed the continent two thirds of a mile (one kilometer) into the earth. Under the massive forces of their own weight, the ice sheets deform and drag themselves outward. Very large glaciers called ice streams flow through them continually, transporting ice from the center of the continent to the sea."

There we can see that the Ice Shelves extend one kilometer beneath sea level. Therefore, most of the Ice Shelves are already below sea level, less dense than the water which surrounds it.
I see your point. I still believe, however, that any climatic change reflective of an overall increase in temperature would result in the sea levels increasing simply due to the amount of ice on the earth which is not currently “floating” in the oceans. When this ice melts, it will add to the total volume of water in the oceans which will raise the sea levels.
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Bushido

Re: Melting
« Reply #5 on: July 20, 2007, 10:39:49 AM »
What would happen if the ice caps melted???

Is it possible for the ocean to rise above the ice wall?

According to Dogplatter, the IceWall is 70,000 feet or about 13 miles high.

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Mr. Ireland

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Re: Melting
« Reply #6 on: July 20, 2007, 11:00:19 AM »
I have proven that sea levels would fall due to melting ice caps

No you didn't.

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The Communist

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Re: Melting
« Reply #7 on: July 21, 2007, 10:57:43 AM »
I have proven that sea levels would fall due to melting ice caps

No you didn't.
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Looks like someone didn't click the link  ::)
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Mr. Ireland

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Re: Melting
« Reply #8 on: July 21, 2007, 12:08:22 PM »
:o OMG NO Wai...




Looks like someone didn't click the link  ::)

You got pwned of what I read, wasn't going to read all 6 pages though.



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