Prove me wrong

I made a topic before but it got moved to the angry ranting forum. I apologize, I was just pissed because I saw a flat earth group on Myspace and the people on there were REALLY stupid.

But anyway, my five points:

1: Ships slowly dissappear over the horizon. If the earth was flat, this would not happen.
2: There are different climates across the globe. If the earth was flat, the climate would be practically the same everywhere.
3: There are seasons.
4: There are different time zones.
5: There are thousands of pictures that show the earth being ROUND.

There, now prove me wrong, and I will go away quietly.

I made a topic before but it got moved to the angry ranting forum. I apologize, I was just pissed because I saw a flat earth group on Myspace and the people on there were REALLY stupid.

But anyway, my five points:

1: Ships slowly dissappear over the horizon. If the earth was flat, this would not happen.

Our eyes can play tricks on us.

2: There are different climates across the globe. If the earth was flat, the climate would be practically the same everywhere.

God makes different climates obviously.

3: There are seasons.

There are four seasons.

4: There are different time zones.

God causes this.

5: There are thousands of pictures that show the earth being ROUND.

Pixel artists working for NASA made them all.

There, now prove me wrong, and I will go away quietly.

You have been proved wrong, Satan!

Oh joy. Well, how a deist explanation, then?

I made a topic before but it got moved to the angry ranting forum. I apologize, I was just pissed because I saw a flat earth group on Myspace and the people on there were REALLY stupid.

But anyway, my five points:

1: Ships slowly dissappear over the horizon. If the earth was flat, this would not happen.
2: There are different climates across the globe. If the earth was flat, the climate would be practically the same everywhere.
3: There are seasons.
4: There are different time zones.
5: There are thousands of pictures that show the earth being ROUND.

There, now prove me wrong, and I will go away quietly.

Welcome. May I point you to the RE Primer? See the link in my signature below. It's 70 pages (in the next version due this week) of analysis in support of the Round Earth Theory. I believe that you'll find it useful. Thanks.

Quote from: PinkIsCool on July 17, 2007, 01:19:52 PM

I made a topic before but it got moved to the angry ranting forum. I apologize, I was just pissed because I saw a flat earth group on Myspace and the people on there were REALLY stupid.

But anyway, my five points:

1: Ships slowly dissappear over the horizon. If the earth was flat, this would not happen.

Out eyes can play tricks on us.

2: There are different climates across the globe. If the earth was flat, the climate would be practically the same everywhere.

God makes different climates obviously.

3: There are seasons.

There are four seasons.

4: There are different time zones.

God causes this.

5: There are thousands of pictures that show the earth being ROUND.

Pixel artists working for NASA made them all.

There, now prove me wrong, and I will go away quietly.

You have been proved wrong, Satan!

Wow. Too bad I'm a christian.

1:Explain to me exactly how our eyes play tricks on us, and maybe I'll consider your point seriously.
2:I know, he makes different climates by creating a round earth where the sun doesn't hit every part evenly.
3:Yes,there are four seasons... what does that have to do with anything?
4:Again, he causes this by making a round earth where the sun doesn't hit every part evenly.
5:Ok... do you have proof of this? Or is that just another baseless assumption to support what you believe?

I guess you didn't prove me wrong, did you?

Again, if anyone here wants to step up and defend thier beliefs by proving me wrong, please do so. I'm not going to waste my time reading through pages of crap. If I'm to be proved wrong, it's going to happen right here, right now.

C'mon people, is this all you got?! 

No this is not all we got, the Bible even says the Earth is flat! This is proof enough.

No this is not all we got, the Bible even says the Earth is flat! This is proof enough.

The bible also says that it's a sin to eat fish. Do you eat fish? You better stop, or God is going to get you!

Where exactly does it say this?

Can't you send me someone smarter than this kid? 

The bible also says that it's a sin to eat fish. Do you eat fish? You better stop, or God is going to get you!

Where exactly does it say this?

Can't you send me someone smarter than this kid? 

Daniel 4:11
Matthew 4:8
Revelation 1:7
Isaiah 11:12
Revelation 7:1
Job 38:13
Jeremiah 16:19

And the Bible says not to eat anything of the sea that has no scales or fins. So eating fish is okay. Oyster, lobsters, and shrimp will have you sent to Hell though.
      

1: Ships slowly dissappear over the horizon. If the earth was flat, this would not happen.

See Chapter 14 of Earth Not a Globe. Ships disappear from the bottom up due to the natural laws of perspective.

2: There are different climates across the globe. If the earth was flat, the climate would be practically the same everywhere.

The sun is closer to the equator than to the poles.

3: There are seasons.

The radius of the sun's orbit around the Earth's axis symmetry varies throughout the year, being smallest when summer is in the northern annulus and largest when it is summer in the southern annulus.

4: There are different time zones.

The sun creates a spotlight effect upon the earth due to its size and closeness. This spotlight has a diameter of around 12,500 nautical miles.

5: There are thousands of pictures that show the earth being ROUND.

Please show us any one of these pictures for analysis.

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1: Ships slowly dissappear over the horizon. If the earth was flat, this would not happen.

See Chapter 14 of Earth Not a Globe. Ships disappear from the bottom up due to the natural laws of perspective.

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2: There are different climates across the globe. If the earth was flat, the climate would be practically the same everywhere.

The sun is closer to the equator than to the poles.

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3: There are seasons.

The radius of the sun's orbit around the Earth's axis symmetry varies throughout the year, being smallest when summer is in the northern annulus and largest when it is summer in the southern annulus.

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4: There are different time zones.

The sun creates a spotlight effect upon the earth due to its size and closeness. This spotlight has a diameter of around 12,500 nautical miles.

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5: There are thousands of pictures that show the earth being ROUND.

Please show us any one of these pictures for analysis.

I still don't see how the Sun can be the only naturally occurring spotlight, Tom.

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1: Ships slowly dissappear over the horizon. If the earth was flat, this would not happen.

See Chapter 14 of Earth Not a Globe. Ships disappear from the bottom up due to the natural laws of perspective.

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2: There are different climates across the globe. If the earth was flat, the climate would be practically the same everywhere.

The sun is closer to the equator than to the poles.

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3: There are seasons.

The radius of the sun's orbit around the Earth's axis symmetry varies throughout the year, being smallest when summer is in the northern annulus and largest when it is summer in the southern annulus.

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4: There are different time zones.

The sun creates a spotlight effect upon the earth due to its size and closeness. This spotlight has a diameter of around 12,500 nautical miles.

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5: There are thousands of pictures that show the earth being ROUND.

Please show us any one of these pictures for analysis.

Well done. But I still don't believe it. We'll just have to go out to space and take a look for ourselves, eh?

The Bible does not say space exists.

the bible does not say YOU exist, and yet there you are, posting away...

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1: Ships slowly dissappear over the horizon. If the earth was flat, this would not happen.

See Chapter 14 of Earth Not a Globe. Ships disappear from the bottom up due to the natural laws of perspective.

See these threads which cover this issue extensivelly and which show that the natural laws of perspective are gravely misunderstood my Mr. Rowbotham and that they cannot explain the sinking ship phenomenon (or better yet, of the sinking skyline phenomeon).

http://theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=15589.0
http://theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=15483.0
http://theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=15463.0
http://theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=15417.0
http://theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=15422.0
http://theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=13526.0

You will find that in all instances FEers took off without responding to the rebuttals which destroyed their arguments. You will also find that Tom repeats himself endlessly, despite the fact that his answers have been demolished as much as anything ever could be. Enjoy.

Oh and Daniel just says things for shits and giggles, don't think he's serious.

No this is not all we got, the Bible even says the Earth is flat! This is proof enough.

Quote from: DanielPZC on July 17, 2007, 02:29:56 PM

No this is not all we got, the Bible even says the Earth is flat! This is proof enough.

The bible also says that it's a sin to eat fish. Do you eat fish? You better stop, or God is going to get you!

Where exactly does it say this?

Can't you send me someone smarter than this kid? 

It is true. Somewhere in Isaiah I think, it talks about the "roundness" or "circle" of the earth. In Aramaic, the word can also be used as sphere, ball, globe, roundness, circle etc. etc.


Also, about the fish. In Aramaic, there was no word to represent the English version of "better" or "worse". Therefore, to say something was better than something else, you had to say that one thing was "good" and the other was "bad". This is why the Bible can sometimes be translated into an interpretation which sounds far more harsh than was intended.

For example (not true, just to show how it works):

English: Chicken is better than fish to eat.

Translated to Aramaic:   Chicken is good to eat. Fish is bad to eat.

You can see how translations can distort interpretations of ancient texts.

Quote from: DanielPZC on July 17, 2007, 01:27:37 PM

Quote from: PinkIsCool on July 17, 2007, 01:19:52 PM

I made a topic before but it got moved to the angry ranting forum. I apologize, I was just pissed because I saw a flat earth group on Myspace and the people on there were REALLY stupid.

But anyway, my five points:

1: Ships slowly dissappear over the horizon. If the earth was flat, this would not happen.

Out eyes can play tricks on us.

2: There are different climates across the globe. If the earth was flat, the climate would be practically the same everywhere.

God makes different climates obviously.

3: There are seasons.

There are four seasons.

4: There are different time zones.

God causes this.

5: There are thousands of pictures that show the earth being ROUND.

Pixel artists working for NASA made them all.

There, now prove me wrong, and I will go away quietly.

You have been proved wrong, Satan!

Wow. Too bad I'm a christian.

1:Explain to me exactly how our eyes play tricks on us, and maybe I'll consider your point seriously.
2:I know, he makes different climates by creating a round earth where the sun doesn't hit every part evenly.
3:Yes,there are four seasons... what does that have to do with anything?
4:Again, he causes this by making a round earth where the sun doesn't hit every part evenly.
5:Ok... do you have proof of this? Or is that just another baseless assumption to support what you believe?

I guess you didn't prove me wrong, did you?

Again, if anyone here wants to step up and defend thier beliefs by proving me wrong, please do so. I'm not going to waste my time reading through pages of crap. If I'm to be proved wrong, it's going to happen right here, right now.

C'mon people, is this all you got?! 

I'm a Round-Earther like you, but I'll try to counter like a FE'er would.

On the NASA subject, you said "give me proof of this." Please, give ME proof that the pictures are real.
Actually, thats really about all I could do. Im not an FE'er.

That's all they do anyway, so...

Good job!

No this is not all we got, the Bible even says the Earth is flat! This is proof enough.

First off the bible was written about 1500 years ago. it has been translated into so many different languages. and unless you know how to read Aramaic.....then how do you know wuts really written in the "The Bible" oh....and the Bible isnt meant for "literal" translation.....think of the bible as the first ever self-help-book with little hints and tips on how to live your life.

That's not how a lot of Christians see it as though, is it? It is the literal and correct word of God written by humans.

p.s. So tempted to read that back as hu-MONS like a Ferengi lmao

yeah.....but man is foulable *im tired....i dont care about spelling*

Go to bed then you doughnut!

The point is, they don't see the writers as fallible because God is directly controlling them

Funny thing about the bible... its kinda scary...

Genesis chapter 19--old guy (Lot) lets two strangers he knows to be angels or messengers of the lord in his house. The crowd of the city (the city being Sodoma) go and knock on Lot's door. Lot tells them to "go away. You can rape my two virgin daughters if you just go and leave me and the two dudes alone." (paraphrased. You can read the actual text genesis 19:8 )

Noble old man, right there. Aparrently, though, hes a paragon of virtue, as he's like the only guy who was saved when God smote the city. Should we all offer up our virgin daughters to mobs so as to get a little peace and quiet? It appears to be an easy ticket to heaven...

The answer is a resounding "OF COURSE NOT." We should definately protect the two strangers, but at our OWN expense, not that of another. Thats like, in the 10 commandments--love thy neighbor as thyself. If you interpretted the bible completely literally at every step, this world would not be nearly as happy is it is (and, noting the unhappiness of the world, thats saying something).

Go to bed then you doughnut!

The point is, they don't see the writers as fallible because God is directly controlling them

how do you know??? were you there when these writers were being "controlled" by God. and wut kinda of "Almighty" Being needs to control people to get their point across...if an "All powerful" being wanted to get the message out. they wouldnt need us.

Anyone want to explain to me why Lot is such a holy and virtuous man?

I don't question the teachings and morals of the bible. But you understand that, while it is a book, and a damned good book, it is not definitive. There is the tora, the Koran, the Bhagavad Gita, there are creeds from here to the end of the earth that stress the same values as the bible. All that differs is who tells them.

I know the site. i preffer to draw my own conclusions from texts.